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Featured The date of great tribulation

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by shilohsfoal, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. Unnamed Guy

    Unnamed Guy Member

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    It is not a "bold statement", it is what the bible says.
     
  2. shilohsfoal

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    Jesus said at the time of the abomination that causes desolation ,then shall be great tribulation.

    Matthew 24:21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.

    The abomination that causes desolation is placed exactly 1290 days after the daily sacrifice if abolished.

    Daniel 12:11 NIV: "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

    The saints in Israel will understand this when the daily sacrifice is abolished.This also marks the start of thier persecution(tribulation).

    Daniel 11:33 NIV: "Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.

    So at the beginning of the occupation ,the daily sacrifice is abolished.The start of the saints tribulation in,Israel.
    After 1290 days or 42 months the abomination of desolaton is placed.This is the great tribulation.

    They will know the exact day the abomination is to be placed long before it is.

    Its like when God told Noah about the flood before it happened.Then at a given time he told him the exact day it would rain.
     
  3. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    The AoD is set up at the same time as the sacrifices are stopped. As Daniel 9:27 says
    The 1290 days are an extension of the 1260 days in Revelation, of 30 days, to allow for the Temple to be cleansed after Jesus Returns.
     
  4. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Newbie

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    Do you always have to change Gods words to make them fit your back ackward theories or do you do,it for fun.
    I need not change a single word.
    Let Gods word speak for itself.

    Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.
     
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  5. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    The sacrifices are stopped when the ToD is committed (Daniel 8:11-13). A short time later, the sacrifices still stopped, is when the AoD is placed in the temple.
     
  6. JacksBratt

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    I understand that some people take this view. I, however, are not one of them. None of this has taken place. It is coming soon though.
     
  7. shilohsfoal

    shilohsfoal Newbie

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    It is coming soon.In fact I believe Trump shall soon send a host to Israel.
     
  8. JacksBratt

    JacksBratt Searching for Truth

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    What do you mean? Send a host to Israel, what's a host?
     
  9. SandwichBoy

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    That's not true at all. The war lasted 7 years. They just took control of Jerusalem in 70 ad. Taking Jerusalem was not the end of the war.
     
  10. SandwichBoy

    SandwichBoy New Member

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    Which passage?
     
  11. SandwichBoy

    SandwichBoy New Member

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    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    Matthew 24:34 KJV
    He was talking directly to his apostles, not us. How can it be our generation?
     
  12. eleos1954

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    He doesn't give a date or time (does He have to?), they did ask when and He provided them with signs (of things that would happen before the end of time) instead, and the destruction of the temple was one of them. Just like signs are given for the end times and many many other prophecies without specific dates/times.

    We do know they were discussing the physical temple of the time.

    We know from history/historical writings and archeology when it did occur.

    Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) - Wikipedia
     
  13. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Jesus was talking about the generation that sees Jerusalem back in the hands of the Jews, since he had previously prophesied that they would be scattered among the nations.
     
  14. SandwichBoy

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    Where does the Bible say that the Jews would return to Jerusalem again after being scattered by the Romans? Can you find one example that isnt referring to the return from the Babylonian captivity?
     
  15. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Ezekiel 38-39 gives the over view of the end times.

    Jesus Himself is speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to earth and is recounting the past 2000 years of why the house of Israel went in to dispersion among the nations.

    Ezekiel 39:17-20 is the Armageddon feast of Revelation 19:17-18.

    And before then is the 7 years following the destruction of Gog's army.

    Which is preceded by Israel being in peace in the latter days having returned to the land of Israel (not every last one - which doesn't happen until Ezekiel 39:29)
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    So basically what you do is start at the end of Ezekiel 39 and work your way back. It is 100% flawless method, because it is Jesus Himself speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to earth.
     
  16. SandwichBoy

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    The church is the ecclesiastica, the gathering, and he started it before the crucifixion and spent 40 days with it after the ressurection. Jesus knew everything, and the future. He definitely knew about the Church.
     
  17. parousia70

    parousia70 I'm livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

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    So again, your claim appears to be He totally ignored the apostles question about when the temple would fall, and does NOT answer it at all, in any fashion whatsoever, not even a hint, opting instead to discuss in great detail the passing of events the apostles will never experience in their generation and have absolutely no bearing on their lives in their day even though he uses language throughout the discourse personalizing those events to the apostles directly as if they were to happen In Their day...
    Am I right?

    What in your view did the temples destruction have to do with the signs of the end?

    Anything?

    We know from their questions that the apostles connected the fall of the temple with the end of the age and parousia of Christ. In the apostles mind as they asked, the two events were synonymous.

    Jesus never corrects this notion of theirs, does He?
     
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  18. Unnamed Guy

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    If Jesus had known about the church, John 4:22 would have been a lie.

    John 4:22 King James Version (KJV)
    22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
     
  19. eleos1954

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    He was letting them know of a future event (destruction of the Temple) that would occur before His return. Did the physical destruction of the temple happen before the generation of that time passed? Yes

    And that happened 40 years later when the Romans leveled it in A.D. 70.
     
  20. parousia70

    parousia70 I'm livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

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    In what verse of Matthew 24 does Jesus say the temple would fall before their generation passed?
     
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