the Covid Vaccine and the Christian thing to do

[The Barbarian]

You posted an article

You quote and post an article that claims a black man from south-central is a white nationalist sympathizer

No, it didn't say that. And you've been reminded several times.

and you claim his campaign is the one trying to twist the truth.

Hmm... don't remember that. I mentioned that they tried to spin it without actually denying the facts of the case. That's what campaigns are supposed to do when the candidate gets caught in something shady.

That article was a blantant attempt at slander just like he stated.

In the United States, nothing that is true can be slander. And the article reported what actually happened. Which is why your guy won't be suing for slander; any lawyer would tell him that the truth is an absolute defense against slander.

You just lied about me claiming he was a white nationalist or white supremacist.

 

[Jeff11]

No, it didn't say that. And you've been reminded several times.



Hmm... don't remember that. I mentioned that they tried to spin it without actually denying the facts of the case. That's what campaigns are supposed to do when the candidate gets caught in something shady.



In the United States, nothing that is true can be slander. And the article reported what actually happened. Which is why your guy won't be suing for slander; any lawyer would tell him that the truth is an absolute defense against slander.

You just lied about me claiming he was a white nationalist or white supremacist.

You keep saying the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.

You literally copy and paste the link to an article accusing Larry elder of being a white nationalist/sympathizer, Which I previously referenced and now you are going to deny doing that?

First off you have to have an almost child like brain to believe that a black man with support any kind of white supremacy. But apparently that was the point of the article you quoted.

It’s not just me saying it’s slanderous. That was literally what Larry elder’s campaign said and I agree with them. And the fart you would “and post such slanderous information indicates you wanted to slander him as well.

 

[Jeff11]

No, it didn't say that. And you've been reminded several times.



Hmm... don't remember that. I mentioned that they tried to spin it without actually denying the facts of the case. That's what campaigns are supposed to do when the candidate gets caught in something shady.



In the United States, nothing that is true can be slander. And the article reported what actually happened. Which is why your guy won't be suing for slander; any lawyer would tell him that the truth is an absolute defense against slander.

You just lied about me claiming he was a white nationalist or white supremacist.

You literally posted an article that accused Larry elder of being a white nationalist but you don’t think by quoting that article you’re trying to do the same thing?

 

[The Barbarian]

You literally posted an article that accused Larry elder of being a white nationalist

No, you just lied about that. In fact, the article says:

Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures.
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Did you really think no one would check? Do you see now that no matter how bad things look for you, you only make it worse by lying?

 

[Jeff11]

No, you just lied about that. In fact, the article says:

Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures.
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Did you really think no one would check? Do you see now that no matter how bad things look for you, you only make it worse by lying?

You are a Boldface liar.

The article you posted a link to and recommended ing read was a slanderous hit piece on Larry Elder and you know it. The fact you continue to lie about it just makes you look even worse

 

[hedrick]

You might find her Twitter feed interesting she has some comments about the particular vaccines and also her personal recommendations for supplementsView attachment 306027

I looked at it before. It seems to have several fringe theories. Why are people skeptical of vaccines, which are now widely tested, but have problem with unproven things like Ivermectin?

here’s a commentary on a video by her. A Skeptical Look at Kelly Victory, M.D. | Quackwatch Dr. Kelly Victory: Another despicable physician spreading disinformation about COVID-19 The only assertion where you can argue for her position is the risk to children, though it looks like it’s a good idea to vaccinate them.

 

[Jeff11]

No, you just lied about that. In fact, the article says:

Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures.
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Did you really think no one would check? Do you see now that no matter how bad things look for you, you only make it worse by lying?

Here is a quote from that article when Larry Elder was asked to comment:
“We regret that media outlets like yours spend an endless amount of time trying to malign and slander Larry Elder,” the campaign’s communications director, Ying Ma, said in a statement.

“He is a black man from South Central who doesn’t subscribe to the mainstream media’s narrative of racial grievance or your misguided notions of systemic racism,” Ma said. “Instead of examining your own delusions, you look for every opportunity possible to paint him as a white nationalist sympathizer. It’s absurd.”

 

[Jeff11]

I looked at it before. It seems to have several fringe theories. Why are people skeptical of vaccines, which are now widely tested, but have problem with unproven things like Ivermectin?

here’s a commentary on a video by her. A Skeptical Look at Kelly Victory, M.D. | Quackwatch Dr. Kelly Victory: Another despicable physician spreading disinformation about COVID-19 The only assertion where you can argue for her position is the risk to children, though it looks like it’s a good idea to vaccinate them.

She is a medical doctor and was board-certified in the 90s as a emergency care physician she apparently stopped practicing in the 90s due to a degenerative back disease.

As a medical doctor I think she’s entitled to state her opinion on Covid. If you listen to her YouTube videos she sites the studies that she base is her opinion on. That article you quoted appears to be a headpiece where they’re going back to statement she made when Covid first came out in which the amount of information that was available was limited.

 

[The Barbarian]

Here is a quote from that article...

Here's the quote from the article that shows you lied about what it said:

"Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures."
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Elder's campaign lied about it, too:

Ma said. “Instead of examining your own delusions, you look for every opportunity possible to paint him as a white nationalist sympathizer."

 

[Jeff11]

Here's the quote from the article that shows you lied about what it said:

"Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures."
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Elder's campaign lied about it, too:

Ma said. “Instead of examining your own delusions, you look for every opportunity possible to paint him as a white nationalist sympathizer."

Do you have thoroughly embarrassed yourself at this point. I mean the article itself quotes elder condor article complete slander which it was in which is the reason you called it because you also wanted to slander him. You’ve dug a hole you can’t dig out of.

 

[The Barbarian]

She is a medical doctor and was board-certified in the 90s as a emergency care physician she apparently stopped practicing in the 90s due to a degenerative back disease.

As a medical doctor I think she’s entitled to state her opinion on Covid.

She's as qualified as any primary care physician to express an opinion on COVID-19. But she is in over her head, if she's going against immunologists and virologists.

You should ask yourself why all the dissenters about immunology are those who aren't qualified as immunologists.

 

[The Barbarian]

Do you have thoroughly embarrassed yourself at this point.

Do you have gotten so flustered you can't form sentences now?

I mean the article itself quotes elder condor article complete slander which...

Well, let's take a look again...

Here's the quote from the article that shows you lied about what it said:

"Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures."
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Elder's campaign lied about it, too:

Ma said. “Instead of examining your own delusions, you look for every opportunity possible to paint him as a white nationalist sympathizer."

Ma is claiming that they said exactly the opposite of what they did say. That, BTW, is slander.

 

[Jeff11]

She's as qualified as any primary care physician to express an opinion on COVID-19. But she is in over her head, if she's going against immunologists and virologists.

You should ask yourself why all the dissenters about immunology are those who aren't qualified as immunologists.

The better question would be why the doctors not acknowledge the fact that people who have had Covid and recovered from it have natural immunity and don’t need to be vaccinated.

 

[Jeff11]

Do you have gotten so flustered you can't form sentences now?



Well, let's take a look again...

Here's the quote from the article that shows you lied about what it said:

"Elder’s presence at the conference does not imply sympathy for white nationalism, but it does show he has a history of associating with fringe right-wing figures."
Larry Elder Spoke At A Conference With White Nationalist Kyle Chapman | HuffPost

Elder's campaign lied about it, too:

Ma said. “Instead of examining your own delusions, you look for every opportunity possible to paint him as a white nationalist sympathizer."

Ma is claiming that they said exactly the opposite of what they did say. That, BTW, is slander.

You have completely embarrassed yourself. First off according to your article which was nothing but pure slander trying to link elder to a white nationalist or supremacists. That article was nothing more than A hit piece meant to slander and hurt his candidacy and that’s the very reason you posted a link to it because you wanted to do that as well. And there’s nothing you can say that will change that.

 

[The Barbarian]

The better question would be why the doctors not acknowledge the fact that people who have had Covid and recovered from it have natural immunity and don’t need to be vaccinated.

Turns out that's not true in all cases. My daughter, for example, had COVID-19, recovered, and for several months, had immunity. Then it went away, and the antibody levels fell to a point that she wasn't immune. She was donating antibodies, so she found out about it rather quickly.

The most optimistic findings so far are that about 95% of people infected with COVID-19 have immunity for up to 8 months.
Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

Even for those few months, about 1 in 20 people don't get immunity at all.

She's now vaccinated and protected. Hopefully, the vaccine will work better than the illness for lasting immunity.

 

[The Barbarian]

You have completely embarrassed yourself. First off according to your article which was nothing but pure slander trying to link elder to a white nationalist or supremacists.

Well, you've backed off again, a little more. And yes, the article does document a link to two white nationalists. But it did not, as you claimed, say that Elder was a white nationalist. In fact, the article pointed out that the links did not mean he was.

His campaign lied about that.

That article was nothing more than A hit piece meant to slander and hurt his candidacy and that’s the very reason you posted a link to it because you wanted to do that as well.

Nonsense. He had lost the election decisively, and his candidacy was a smoking ruin when I linked the article. C'mon.

 

[hedrick]

The better question would be why the doctors not acknowledge the fact that people who have had Covid and recovered from it have natural immunity and don’t need to be vaccinated.

There is wide agreement that recovered patients have immunity. But immunity isn’t all or nothing. There is nearly 100% agreement that vaccinating people who have recovered is worthwhile. So acknowledging that people who have recovered have immunity, and saying that they don’t need vaccination aren’t the same thing.

 

[Jeff11]

There is wide agreement that recovered patients have immunity. But immunity isn’t all or nothing. There is nearly 100% agreement that vaccinating people who have recovered is worthwhile. So acknowledging that people who have recovered have immunity, and saying that they don’t need vaccination aren’t the same thing.

I don’t think people who have Covid antibodies should be forced to get a vaccine. Covid antibodies natural immunity superior. Someone else mention the fact that your antibodies go away but the fact you’ve already had Covid and recovered what indicate to me you’re not likely to have complications from a different variant.

 

[Christian4252]

I've got the Jesus vaccine. Which is way more powerful than that government issued "vaccine". So we good.

 

[rjs330]

I think we've strayed from the topic a bit. Let's get back on track.

Jesus told us to love people. Love them as we love ourselves. Would Jesus said no greater love exists other than to lay your life down for a friend. This would all seem to imply that we should sacrifice our rights for others, even to our own detriment.

Or does it? Are we in disobedience to these principles in sscripture for not taking the vaccine? Or does the scripture teach any sort of thing?

I've read a particular believer say we are NOT being Christian if we dont take the vaccine. Because we MIGHT save someone's life. Is that scriptural?

What say you?