fhansen
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Sure, humility causes us to admit we're sinners, but it certainly doesn't want us to remain there-and God doesn't want us there; He didn't create us to be sinners after all. If we have no choice in the matter to begin with, then we'd have no guilt either. But instead, God says that we do have a choice. We're not only forgiven, but we're now to go, and sin no more, with His help according to the New Covenant. The slate is wiped clean, we're made new creations; are we to mock God by continuing in sin-or thinking that should remain the norm for us, as if nothing's changed? Are we to reject or despise Him all over again as Adam did?I like your post, but, with God there are varying degrees of punishment and/or reward, it is either eternal life in Heaven, or eternal death in Hell, and that's it... There is no "in-between...
So, I tend to think it would like @RDKirk said in post #78 tow posts above this, would be the number one determining factor, I would think...
Luke 18:9-14: Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner! I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
God Bless!
Grace is not merely about forgiveness but it's about relationship with God, 'apart from whom we can do nothing', whereby justice is restored and we can begin to live as we were created to live, which excludes sin. The first justice which man obtains is the very communion with God that he was made for, and that Adam effectively rejected. From God's abiding in us, He does a work in us, of justifying, of placing His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts. He does this by transforming us into His own image, the image of He who is love. That's how justice is arrived at for man, that's how the law is fulfilled.
While we're called to be holy as He is holy, and perfect because He is perfect, and are expected to strive increasingly towards that goal, He doesn't expect us to necessarily achieve total perfection in that in this life. But He does expect us to grow in love, and "love covers a multitude of sins". But if we commit murder, rape, theft, etc, are we loving our neighbor-or God? Of course not, so there are sins where love is little compromised if at all, and sins that oppose and destroy love in us. Love is the key, on which we'll be judged. And there's no pride in love-just the opposite.
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