The Coming Antichrist is... The Devil In Person

[Truth7t7]

Those who will still be alive upon the Coming of Jesus will be judged upon this --->Revelation 14:9-13

This refers obviously to the 42 months reign of the Beast mentioned in Revelation 13 who will PRECEDE the Coming Of Jesus for the Battle of Armageddon.

Revelation 14:9-13
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worshippeth the beast and his image, and receiveth a mark on his forehead, or upon his hand, 10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 and the smoke of their torment goeth up for ever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, they that worship the beast and his image, and whoso receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints, they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard the voice from heaven saying, Write, Blessed are the dead who DIE in the Lord from henceforth: yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them.

The resurrection of all, and final judgment of all takes place at the return of Jesus Christ, resurrection, final judgment, eternal kingdom, all in the twinkling of an eye.

 

[Riberra]

Wrong!

Revelation 11:18 & Revelation 20:11-15 are the "Very Same" final judgment seen in parallel teachings.

The book of Revelation "Is Not" in chronological order as you seem to believe and teach.

That does not matter --->the 42 months reign of the Beast will be inevitable for ALL those who will be ALIVE during those times.

Those ALIVE during the 42 months reign of the Beast/antichrist will be JUDGED BY JESUS upon their decision of taking the mark and worship the Beast or not.

Revelation 14:9-13 is all about that JUDGMENT OF GOD.

 

[BABerean2]

That does not matter --->the 42 months reign of the Beast will be inevitable for ALL those who will be ALIVE during those times.

Those ALIVE during the 42 months reign of the Beast/antichrist will be JUDGED BY JESUS upon their decision of taking the mark and worship the Beast or not.

Revelation 14:9-13 is all about that JUDGMENT OF GOD.

Those "alive" at that time are found below.


Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

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[Riberra]

Those "alive" at that time are found below.


Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Where do you place the 42 months Reign of the Beast mentioned in Revelation 13 ,is it before or after Rev 11:18 ?

Revelation 13
15 And it was given [unto him] to give breath to it, [even] to the image to the breast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, [even] the name of the beast or the number of his name.


Don't you see that Revelation 14:9-13 is a JUDGMENT OF GOD who will concern ALL those who will be ALIVE during the 42 Months reign of the Beast /Antichrist ?

 

[Ronald]

I cannot agree with the collectivist single beast idea applied to it. Rev.13 is purposefully giving us 2 different 'beasts', and we are to understand them separately...

Rev 13:11-12
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
KJV

That makes a distinction between 2 separate beasts. If the Rev.13 chapter didn't do that, then we could rightly just label all the Rev.13 descriptions about a single 'beast'.

And obviously that "another beast", a 2nd beast, is not about a kingdom, but a person, and the only other type beast symbol applied in Daniel is about the idea of a 'beast king', especially in the Dan.4 chapter about Nebuchadnezzar being made low to literally live like a wild beast for a time.

Satan is a beast, the beast he empowers is a beast.
My understanding is that Satan empowers his group of nations, which are Islamic. They will come against Israel and Christianity as they have throughout history. Christ will destroy them and lock up Satan, the false prophet for 1000 years.
But there is yet another Beast I'm concerned about, he will not come from the Abyss, he is cursed and hides in his castle, and now he has taken Beauty ... What to do?

 

[he-man]

"Abaddon" is from Hebrew, not Greek. It means 'destruction' (see Proverbs 27:20). Both Apollyon and Abaddon are given as proper names for Satan who is the angel of the bottomless pit. He is that "king" given there because he is ruler of the abode of the wicked called hell.
No, you cannot say no angel has ever gone to hell, because of the Rev.9:11 verse:
Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
KJV
The bottomless pit is... the abode of hell. That's what the abyss represents.
And the timing of Rev.9:1 is definitely... NOT the time of Jesus' future thousand years reign. The angel of Rev.9:1 is this same "angel of the bottomless pit" that is a king. Surely you don't think our Lord Jesus is that king over the bottomless pit?@&$!

No, do you? However, he holds the key to Hell, that is the abyss, the place of death and destruction.

ABaddon in Koine Greek means abyss, the place of the dead and has no meaning at all of an angel. I know that Christ is not an angel, I also know that no Angel has ever gone to Hell. The meaning is only that Jesus has the keys to death and dying. When he locks the abyss, it simply means that death, evil, and destruction are on hold for a thousand years and that those who live during that time frame, will be given a choice, to serve God or to ignore Him. Revelation 9:1; Revelation 20:1-3

 

[he-man]

Satan is a beast, the beast he empowers is a beast.
My understanding is that Satan empowers his group of nations, which are Islamic. They will come against Israel and Christianity as they have throughout history. Christ will destroy them and lock up Satan, the false prophet for 1000 years.
But there is yet another Beast I'm concerned about, he will not come from the Abyss, he is cursed and hides in his castle, and now he has taken Beauty ... What to do?

They are both men of kingly nations. They employ Russia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, and all the other nations who oppose Christ. As Revelation 19:19-21 says and the second beast is all the false prophets and those who accuse Christ.

 

[Davy]

Satan is a beast, the beast he empowers is a beast.
My understanding is that Satan empowers his group of nations, which are Islamic. They will come against Israel and Christianity as they have throughout history. Christ will destroy them and lock up Satan, the false prophet for 1000 years.
But there is yet another Beast I'm concerned about, he will not come from the Abyss, he is cursed and hides in his castle, and now he has taken Beauty ... What to do?

Russia has been the main power giving weapons and technology to radical Islam.

The "dragon" of Rev.13 which the nations will worship is Satan himself, he is the "another beast" of that chapter, working miracles and raining fire from heaven in the sight of men, and will setup the image of the beast in false idol worship.

 

[he-man]

Russia has been the main power giving weapons and technology to radical Islam. The "dragon" of Rev.13 which the nations will worship is Satan himself, he is the "another beast" of that chapter, working miracles and raining fire from heaven in the sight of men, and will setup the image of the beast in false idol worship.

Revelation 13:18 the first beast is a man (666) and it is implied that it is the Roman government. It is revealed that the second beast is the Kings of the government. Revelation 17:17-18; Revelation 19:19-21; Revelation 21:8; the second beast (Kings and their armies are semtenced to eternal destruction. 2Thessaloian 1:9; who shall pay the penalty of eternal destruction along with the other beasts who were false accusers. have you ever seen a King with ten horns and frogs coming out of their mouths?

 

[Davy]

Revelation 13:18 the first beast is a man (666) and it is implied that it is the Roman government. It is revealed that the second beast is the Kings of the government. Revelation 17:17-18; Revelation 19:19-21; Revelation 21:8; the second beast (Kings and their armies are semtenced to eternal destruction. 2Thessaloian 1:9; who shall pay the penalty of eternal destruction along with the other beasts who were false accusers. have you ever seen a King with ten horns and frogs coming out of their mouths?

The 2nd beast of Rev.13, the "another beast", that is to work the wonders and miracles and sets up the image of the beast, is the same false one our Lord Jesus warned us about in Matt.24:23-26 and Paul in 2 Thess.2 that will come to Jerusalem to sit in another built temple and proclaim to be God, working lying wonders to deceive the world.

In Rev.13:2 is given a link to the Dan.7 patterns of beast kingdoms and beast king. Same is being given in Rev.13. The 1st beast described is a beast kingdom, and the 2nd beast described is its beast king. That's why its says this about who will exercise ALL THE POWER of the 1st beast before him:

Rev 13:11-12
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
KJV

 

[he-man]

The 2nd beast of Rev.13, the "another beast", that is to work the wonders and miracles and sets up the image of the beast, is the same false one our Lord Jesus warned us about in Matt.24:23-26 and Paul in 2 Thess.2 that will come to Jerusalem to sit in another built temple and proclaim to be God, working lying wonders to deceive the world.

In Rev.13:2 is given a link to the Dan.7 patterns of beast kingdoms and beast king. Same is being given in Rev.13. The 1st beast described is a beast kingdom, and the 2nd beast described is its beast king. That's why its says this about who will exercise ALL THE POWER of the 1st beast before him:

Rev 13:11-12
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
KJV

Revelation 19:19-21 King of the world and both die together in the judgement.

 

[Davy]

Revelation 13:18 the first beast is a man (666) and it is implied that it is the Roman government. It is revealed that the second beast is the Kings of the government. Revelation 17:17-18; Revelation 19:19-21; Revelation 21:8; the second beast (Kings and their armies are semtenced to eternal destruction. 2Thessaloian 1:9; who shall pay the penalty of eternal destruction along with the other beasts who were false accusers. have you ever seen a King with ten horns and frogs coming out of their mouths?

One must be careful in Rev.13 with that word "beast", because there are two different beasts being described there, the pattern of the beast kingdom, and the beast king first given in the Book of Daniel, which is why Dan.7 is referred to in Rev.13:2 about the beast kingdom.

The 1st beast has ten horns, and Rev.17 tells us the ten horns are ten kings. So how are ten kings a person?

The 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 forward is the beast king, a person. The 1st beast described there is a beast kingdom.

 

[Riberra]

...It shows me how my belief that the man of sin will not be 100% human. I know it is pretty far out so I think this is possible even plausible.

The man of sin the son of perdition will be 100% ANGEL [ABADDON Revelation 9:11].....
Revelation 17:8 the Beast/AC shall go into perdition ---->which is the Lake of Fire with the false prophet Revelation 19:20

Satan who will give them power will be locked into the Bottomless Pit For 1,000 years [Revelation 20].

The Satanic "trinity"composed of Satan [The Dragon]---Abaddon [The Beast/AC ]--->and the False Prophet will be visible to all .

Satan is not angel Abaddon ...

 

[Riberra]

One must be careful in Rev.13 with that word "beast", because there are two different beasts being described there, the pattern of the beast kingdom, and the beast king first given in the Book of Daniel, which is why Dan.7 is referred to in Rev.13:2 about the beast kingdom.

The 1st beast has ten horns, and Rev.17 tells us the ten horns are ten kings. So how are ten kings a person?

The 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 forward is the beast king, a person. The 1st beast described there is a beast kingdom.

In fact there is 3 BEASTS described in Revelation 13 all empowered by Satan.
Revelation 13:1-2
1-The Beast Kingdom composed of 7 HEADS [who have the names of blasphemy] and 10 HORNS [10 administrative regions Kingdoms]....

UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings: The UN Divides the World into 10 'Regional Groupings'


2-The "individual"[one of the 7 Heads] who will receive what will SEEM to be a mortal wound at the Head ---->The Beast/AC that the whole world shall wonder Revelation 13:3-8 ---->Revelation 17:8 ...

3-The False Prophet Revelation 13:11-18.

The Satanic "trinity"composed of Satan [The Dragon]---Abaddon [The Beast/AC ]--->and the False Prophet will be visible to all .

Satan is not angel Abaddon .

 

[Gottservant]

One thing to remember:

When the Anti-Christ blasphemes those in Heaven,

he also blasphemes those who sit in Heaven blaspheming (that is, the innocent).

 

[he-man]

One must be careful in Rev.13 with that word "beast", because there are two different beasts being described there, the pattern of the beast kingdom, and the beast king first given in the Book of Daniel, which is why Dan.7 is referred to in Rev.13:2 about the beast kingdom.
The 1st beast has ten horns, and Rev.17 tells us the ten horns are ten kings. So how are ten kings a person?
The 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 forward is the beast king, a person. The 1st beast described there is a beast kingdom.

You got it, that is what I said

 

[BABerean2]

Satan is not angel Abaddon .

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Just as God has many names, so does Satan.

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[Handmaid for Jesus]

The man of sin the son of perdition will be 100% ANGEL [ABADDON Revelation 9:11].....
Revelation 17:8 the Beast/AC shall go into perdition ---->which is the Lake of Fire with the false prophet Revelation 19:20

Satan who will give them power will be locked into the Bottomless Pit For 1,000 years [Revelation 20].

The Satanic "trinity"composed of Satan [The Dragon]---Abaddon [The Beast/AC ]--->and the False Prophet will be visible to all .

Satan is not angel Abaddon ...

Yes that is a possibility. But society is being prepped by the acceptance of the transhuman movement. Ex-men and X-men are being created as we speak.I agree with a lot of what you say here. But I think you may be overlooking what is happening right beneath our noses.How much altering can a person do to their genome before they destroy their humanity? Just think about it. Facts are stranger than fiction today.

 

[Riberra]

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Just as God has many names, so does Satan.

Revelation 19:20 tell us that the BEAST/AC and the False Prophet will be cast alive into the Lake of Fire when Jesus will Come at the Battle of Armageddon.

Revelation 20 tell us that Satan will be locked into the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years.

Conclusion :Satan is NOT the Beast/AC....who will be cast alive into the Lake of Fire with the False Prophet at the Coming of Jesus.

 

[Davy]

In fact there is 3 BEASTS described in Revelation 13 all empowered by Satan.
Revelation 13:1-2
1-The Beast Kingdom composed of 7 HEADS [who have the names of blasphemy] and 10 HORNS [10 administrative regions Kingdoms]....

UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings: The UN Divides the World into 10 'Regional Groupings'


2-The "individual"[one of the 7 Heads] who will receive what will SEEM to be a mortal wound at the Head ---->The Beast/AC that the whole world shall wonder Revelation 13:3-8 ---->Revelation 17:8 ...

3-The False Prophet Revelation 13:11-18.

The Satanic "trinity"composed of Satan [The Dragon]---Abaddon [The Beast/AC ]--->and the False Prophet will be visible to all .

Satan is not angel Abaddon .

We disagree on some of that. The king that is the angel of the bottomless pit per Rev.9, that is Satan. The names Apollyon and Abaddon are simply other titles of his that mean the Destroyer. He has many titles.

The seven heads are seven mountains we are shown in Rev.17. The mountains are not another metaphor or symbol to be interpreted, but are literal mountains, i.e., geographic areas. Thus the 7 heads are seven areas on earth, i.e., like seven continents. One of them suffered a deadly wound in the past, and the 2nd beast coming apparently heals it.

And where... does the 2nd beast arrive at to do his working of great wonders and miracles? At Jerusalem. That is where the beast headquarters will be setup as Paul showed in 2 Thess.2

Many do not understand about Satan's original rebellion in coveting God's Throne in the time of old. This is why they also miss the fact of the beast kingdom in Rev.12:3-4 which Satan as the red dragon had when he drew a third of the stars (angels) to earth with him. That old beast kingdom he rebelled with had only seven crowns, marking the difference from the one in Rev.13 for the end that is to have ten crowns.

God is going to allow Satan to do it again, on earth, what he tried in that time of old, i.e., to play God on earth. The great signs and wonders God's Word describes he will do is of the supernatural order and will be real, not some fake Hollywood show. And those miracles will be done to show he is God. So God's Word is not really talking about some flesh man coming to do those things, but a supernatural one, the devil himself on earth.