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The Color of Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Lik3, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Lik3

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    Recently, I created this video about what color Jesus Christ could have been. As some of you know, the last video I created about His color, or race, was about the fact about many people may have seen Jesus. The point was, if Jesus were black, or white, or Asian, would it matter to You, or even me. Anyways, I created this recent video about as a New World person, how Jesus would have been identified. He was a Jew from Galilee, of the Tribe of Benjamin, I think.

    Jesus was a Semite meaning that He was not a black African purely or a white European purely or even a pure Chinese person in my estimation. He was a "descendant" of David, Isaac, Abraham, Jacob, Solomon, and Ruth the Moabite who became a believer in God. To me, a New Worlder, I have to see the Bible in its truest context. Jesus was a Levantine Semite; there is also diversity in the Middle East just as it is in Africa, especially in genetically, culturally, etc black Africa.

    Israel is of course a country in the Levant between West Asia and East Africa. The so-called "black" race is extremely diverse as is the "White" race, such as the Europeans, whose progenitor was Japheth. The ancient Egyptians, Ethiopians, and other black Africans' progenitor or rather, ancestor, is Ham. The ancestor of the Jews of Galilee as well as the Chaldeans, Assyrians, and the Arabs is Shem.

    Also racially the point also is about who Jesus Christ outside of his racial or national or ethnic identity is the Lord, Savior, and the Son of the Living God. Many of us New Worlders including myself at times fail to see that in the Bible, race is seen from an Old World context. Therefore, the Bible didn't see or even have the 200-300 year old terms Mongoloid, Negroid, or Caucasoid. Most, if not all Semites were seen as Caucasoids and thus, seen as the same "race" or genetic similarity as those who were European and most if not all South Asians.

    Black Africans were/are Negroids, yet at the same time, some believed that those of the Horn were seen as a branch of the Caucasian "race" according to some. Mongoloids were the "yellow" race, which of course including the Japanese and the Chinese. Many in the New World followed this racial/racist model, which wasn't always about genetics, but about skull shape and other factors. Also, the problem with this is that black Africans are too diverse genetically (the most genetically diverse in the world) to just count as one way, just as Europeans are.

    The terms, above are based on racist, outdated pseudoscience. There is no such biblical basis at all. People in the Bible were identified by tribal affiliation, descriptors such as black as in the case of the Ethiopians (to a point). They were also identified by nation such as the Ethiopian who baptized by Phillip, and the Jews such as the Persians and Arabs who had the Holy Spirit come upon them. Nowhere in those verses did the Bible (dependent on some versions) say that Phillip, a "white" man baptized a "black" man. My point is, if we were to answer that question, we have to understand that we as New Worlders, in general, need to see God's Word in its Old World writings. That has been my so-called racial point. That is only a part of what the video is about. However, there is more to the video as well than just how Jesus could have been described and how He looked. His Character has also been taken into account as well.

    Forgive me for this rant being so long. This video has these exact points as what I have written about. I look forward to reading your comments. Let us all be constructive. All constructive criticism is welcome.

     
  2. Symph

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    I really couldn't care less if he was purple, he died for me, that's all that matters to me. But I've kind of always assumed he was just middle eastern, probably looked similar to the people living in pakistan or iraq right now. I haven't done this kind of research at all though, my assumption is as simple as "he was from the middle east... he probably looked middle eastern" lol
     
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  3. RC1970

    RC1970 post tenebras lux

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    "For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." ~ Isaiah 53:2
     
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  4. timewerx

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    Interesting.

    Someone I thought to be Christ visited me in a dream. The person did not introduce himself as Christ to me but talked to me as Christ did to the Samaritan woman by the well. Ironically, we were at a water well when he was talking to me in the dream.

    I think he was testing me in the dream. He showed me something and then asked me fundamental questions and he was pleased by my reply.

    He appeared to me with a brown complexion like an Arab and bit shorter than me. I'm 5'8", he was around 5'6". Definitely not a tall, white-skinned European, nor brown-skinned African.

    He also had short, well-trimmed hair and no facial hair which to me looked very modern and He could have strolled the ethnically diverse streets of present day New York unnoticed.

    However, he also made it clear to me, he could appear as anything to anyone.... So it wasn't the appearance that mattered but the message that is brought.

    If that is indeed Christ then he isn't Arab, nor Black, now White, nor Asian as He could be anything He chooses....Therefore, it is wrong to portray Him as any particular race. It's probably wrong to portray Him as anything at all....Better to NOT make pictures of Him at all!
     
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  5. Symph

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    I've never liked pictures of Christ it just seems.... like taking a lot of liberty to me..
     
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  6. NothingIsImpossible

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    He was dark skinned since hes middle eastern. Its why I never cared for the pictures where hes always made out to be white. Just as I never cared for the pictures where hes "African black". He was neither.

    I kind of like this general image of what science think he looked like. I mean we literally know nothing of what he actually looked like. Maybe he looked like a handsome super model. Maybe he looked like a chubby person. Maybe he just looked normal. In the end it doesn't really matter to me.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/sites/d...015/12/jesus_reconstruction.jpg?itok=S1LqXHGx
     
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  7. Symph

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    Actually him not being a "handsome super model" is like the one thing we DO know about His looks, which I find pretty incredible really. The bible felt no need to describe him any more than to just say "he wasn't anything special to look at, he was just your average looking guy" (obviously it says it in different words) But how funny is it that that's the one descriptive statement God felt the need to make. And I'm gonna GUESS he was pretty muscular, he was a carpenter, and he walked and climbed everywhere he went, so I'd GUESS he was pretty physically fit, though we don't know.
     
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  8. 1213

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    Difficult to say, because he was so bright. :)
     
  9. OrthodoxyUSA

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    This comes to us from 525ad. It was created in a monastery after the nun had visited the shroud.

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    Forgive me...
     
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  10. Lik3

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    Why would you need forgiveness?
     
  11. Dkh587

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    Not him - the Messiah is not white. That's a white man in the painting.
     
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  12. WannaWitness

    WannaWitness Shining God's Light for a Lost World.

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    Looking through this thread brought this old song to my mind. I remember this from an old low-budget recording I listened to as a kid (I still have it, I believe, but it's packed away somewhere). It sounds like one of those old "campfire" songs - just a simple tune with nothing more than a basic guitar accompaniment and chord structure, but has a pretty strong message for a children's song. I'm actually surprised to have found this on Youtube!



    As for the skin color of Jesus when He walked the face of the earth, here's what I think. Jesus was a Jew, and Jews (especially in the Bible days) tended toward darker skin. Not white, not black, but more like olive, tan, or brown. Just my speculations, anyway.

    While I admit that this topic makes for some interesting discussions, what really matters most is that when Jesus died on the cross, it was for all of mankind - not just one or two races, but the whole human race, comprised of diverse peoples of all colors and backgrounds.

    Isn't it wonderful to know that God sees us all the same, no matter what?!

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