The Book of Enoch

[Michie]

Supposedly written by Noah's great grandfather. I've been hearing a lot about it. While not canonical, I understand there is a lot of interest in it. I plan on reading it out of curiosity. Any thoughts on this book from more traditional pov & traditions?

 

[Rhamiel]

it has a lot of ancient jewish mythology in it, was used by occult stuff in the middle ages

it has some interesting things in it, but it is more valuable in an anthropological studies instead of a theological text

 

[MKJ]

Don't the Ethiopian Orthodox have it in their canon?

 

[GoingByzantine]

Don't the Ethiopian Orthodox have it in their canon?

Yes, it is part of the Tewahedo canon. It makes sense given that the only extant version is written in Ge'ez.

 

[GoingByzantine]

A number of church fathers also considered it canon.

 

[Michie]

A number of church fathers also considered it canon.

Interesting. I knew about the Ethiopian Orthodox but I did not know some Church Fathers considered it canon as well. Anybody know where I can get couple of hard copies?

 

[GoingByzantine]

Interesting. I knew about the Ethiopian Orthodox but I did not know some Church Fathers considered it canon as well. Anybody know where I can get couple of hard copies?

Definitely try Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Books a Million etc.

However be wary of who is doing the translations, and the sources that they are using.

 

[Gnarwhal]

Supposedly written by Noah's great grandfather. I've been hearing a lot about it. While not canonical, I understand there is a lot of interest in it. I plan on reading it out of curiosity. Any thoughts on this book from more traditional pov & traditions?

My perspective on this book is heavily tainted because my ex-wife's mother was a certifiably crazy conspiracy theorist who used Enoch as the bedrock for many of her inane ideas. So... I'm not a fan.

Fortunately I'm comfortable with the vast majority of churches deeming it "apocryphal/noncanonical" and thus disqualifying it as a reliable source for any sort of doctrinal purpose. I understand there's a safe and proper way to go about reading it, and I know anybody here in TT would do so. I just have a bad taste in my mouth, sadly, from that book.

 

[Michie]

Definitely try Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Books a Million etc.

However be wary of who is doing the translations, and the sources that they are using.

Can you give me an example?

 

[Gnarwhal]

Can you give me an example?

There are probably translations out there that serve a Futurists agenda, so I would be wary of that. If there are any translations out there done by members of the Catholic or Orthodox faith, I would certainly trust those.

 

[Michie]

There are probably translations out there that serve a Futurists agenda, so I would be wary of that. If there are any translations out there done by members of the Catholic or Orthodox faith, I would certainly trust those.

Good advise.

 

[GoingByzantine]

Can you give me an example?

This seems like an example of a good translation, since the author based it off the Ge'ez script and also cross-referenced with the actual biblical canon:

The Book of Enoch: Ronald K. Brown: 9780967573700: Amazon.com: Books

Beware of versions that have been translated based off of another translation, or those that have been translated with an agenda in mind.

 

[GoingByzantine]

Or you could always try to write a local Tewahedo diocese and ask for an English copy of their bible, it would contain Enoch and be trustworthy.

 

[Michie]

Perfect. Thank you all for the advise.

 

[Edial]

I read the Book of Enoch. Most of it.
It is one of the books that is actually quoted by the Bible.
JUDE 1:14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones ...

I double checked. The quoted part is in Enoch.
Fascinating read. It describes many heavenly secrets, the Watchers and so forth.

Should we read the book?

We should only read it as an accurate description of what is written.
HOWEVER, Enoch is not inspired by God. Meaning it would not lead you to salvation and edification.
It is however an accurate explanations of many of the mysteries ... otherwise the Bible would not have quoted from it.

... in my opinion.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[Michie]

I read the Book of Enoch. Most of it.
It is one of the books that is actually quoted by the Bible.
JUDE 1:14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones ...

I double checked. The quoted part is in Enoch.
Fascinating read. It describes many heavenly secrets, the Watchers and so forth.

Should we read the book?

We should only read it as an accurate description of what is written.
HOWEVER, Enoch is not inspired by God. Meaning it would not lead you to salvation and edification.
It is however an accurate explanations of many of the mysteries ... otherwise the Bible would not have quoted from it.

... in my opinion.

Thanks,
Ed

I want to read it out of curiosity. That is about it. But I do not want to read it online. I want a reliable hard copy.

 

[Edial]

I want to read it out of curiosity. That is about it. But I do not want to read it online. I want a reliable hard copy.

Christians read Enoch for centuries. It's like reading a Christian book.
However, it is so mind-boggling you would think you read science fiction ... but it is true.

 

[Michie]

Christians read Enoch for centuries. It's like reading a Christian book.
However, it is so mind-boggling you would think you read science fiction ... but it is true.

Hey, I could go for that.

 

[SummaScriptura]

Interesting. I knew about the Ethiopian Orthodox but I did not know some Church Fathers considered it canon as well. Anybody know where I can get couple of hard copies?

It was also included in the canon of the Armenian Orhtodox Church for a time and shows up on lists of the books of the Bible as late as the 12th and 13th centuries.

 

[Jipsah]

Supposedly written by Noah's great grandfather. I've been hearing a lot about it. While not canonical, I understand there is a lot of interest in it. I plan on reading it out of curiosity. Any thoughts on this book from more traditional pov & traditions?

Pure fiction, end to end, and by modern standards not very good fiction at that.