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Featured The Biblical Anti-Christ.

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Marilyn C, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. VARZR

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    Gog IS the antichrist. The muslims are awaiting their mahdi which is said to do exactly what the antichrist will do. The king of the north is the antichrist. The assyrian is the antichrist. A revived roman empire is NOT the beast. A revived islamic empire IS the beast system. It is the sunni/shia feet of clay. The heads of the beast are empires. Rome is the 6th, islam is the 7th and the 8th is of the 7. The revived ottoman empire will be the head that comes back from a fatal wound.

    If you read the aftermath of the Ezekiel 38-39 there is a great feast for the birds. This same feast is mentioned in Revelation 19. The defeat of gog is the return of Jesus for the millennium reign.

    John MacArthur sums up the antichrist well in this short video. Joel Richardson explains this all in great depth in his two books. Islamic antichrist, and mid east beast.
     
  2. Douggg

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    VARZR, that particular video by John MacArthur, at You Tube, years ago, I explained in the comments why John MacArhtur is wrong. Since then, the video resurfaced, but with the comment section - disabled.

    Click on the You Tube version f the video, you will see what I mean.
     
  3. Douggg

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    There may be someone come along and claim to be the Mahdi. But is not part of bible prophecy.

    The king of the north reacts like a whirlwind, when the king of the south attacks "him". The him is not the king of the north, but the wilful king, the beast. All four quadrants of the world will be drawn into the middle east at the end of the 7 years. News out of the east troubles "him". Why would the Chinese, and allies coming out of the east trouble the king of the North? It would trouble the King of the West.

    There will be the King of the West - the western global quadrant forces. The King of the North, Russia and the 'stan forces. The King of the south, the African continent forces. The Kings of the East, the Asian forces. All nations brought into the middle east.

    Yes, there is the Armageddon feast in Ezekiel 39:17-20. But 7 years before then, is the feast on Gog's army, the muslims and Russia, in Ezekiel 39:4.

    Gog is not mentioned in the Armageddon feast in the Ezekiel 39:17-20 feast. Why? because Gog's army was destroyed 7 years earlier in Ezekiel 39:4.
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    Regarding the Assyrian in Micah 5:5, it gives a hint of who the Assyrian is ....in verse 6.

    6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

    Why does it say Nimrod? It is highly likely that Nimrod, now a disembodied unclean spirit is who the beast in the bottomless pit is.

    If so, by possessing the slain and come back to life man of sin, that would bring the Assyrian element into the equation. But the end times person, who becomes the revealed man of sin - himself is a Jew.

    Revelaton 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

    and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

    The second part of Revelation 17:8 is the end times person, that the world will witness being killed and come back to life.
     
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  4. VARZR

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    I think you are wrong. You think I am wrong. I strongly feel that scripture is on my side. I have heard the 3 kings reading before and I am not buying it.
     
  5. Marilyn C

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    And your scriptures? Doug,

    Marilyn.
     
  6. Marilyn C

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    Doug,

    If you read the context that is referring to the King of Babylon, and by the law of double reference, also Lucifer / Satan.

    Marilyn.
     
  7. Marilyn C

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    Hi BABerean,

    Thank you for those scriptures, however we can see they are written in relationship to so called believers who say they are Jews but are not & are of Satan.

    As to the term `antichrist,` we see from scripture the qualifications - denying the Jesus is the Christ. The lawless one does this, thus he is an antichrist person.

    Marilyn.
     
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  10. Marilyn C

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    Hi Hal,

    Daniel 11: 41,

    `He (king of the North) shall also enter the Glorious Land....`

    Ps, thanks for tying to make Doug accountable for those scriptures.

    regards, Marilyn.
     
  11. Marilyn C

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    Hi Hal,

    not really as the lawless one, the final Gentile leader of the Global Government, will be `possessed` by Satan. he will have his centre of government in the rebuilt Babylon. (now in progress)

    Marilyn.
     
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  14. Marilyn C

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    Hi Hal,

    It`s already here & will keep that for another thread or you could check out my `Global government` blog. Have to go, be back later,

    Marilyn.
     
  15. BABerean2

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    At one time CBS newsman Walter Cronkite was considered "the most trusted man in America".

    Watch below to see what he said about world government.

    Also, notice the lady who congratulates him for winning the award given by the World Federalist Association, at the end of the video.

     
  16. thesunisout

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    If Christ hasn't yet returned that means His return is yet in the future. Therefore, we expect that Christ will return in the future and set up His Kingdom like He promised
     
  17. Douggg

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    Oh, using the exact verses from the bible, from the new testament, which in the text itself refer back to the Tanach verses that the messiah would be the King of Israel riding into Jerusalem on a donkey - is not good hermeneutics to you? The problem is that you can't rebutt what I wrote - but aren't willing to alter your view.

    The person would not be called the Anti-Christ if it were not rooted in the biblical concept of "the" Christ, "the" messiah. Which you refuse to accept the biblical concept of "the" Christ, "the" messiah, from the text of the bible itself. And from what any Jewish site will likewise say.
     
  18. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Marilyn, is Satan - a man? As it says of the person in Isaiah 14:16 "... Is this the man..."

    No, Satan is not a man, but Satan it says elsewhere entered Judas to carry out that act of betrayal of Jesus. Judas being called the son of perdition.

    The man of sin is likewise called the son of perdition.

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    It is likely for the same reason as why Judas was called the son of perdition, because Satan entered him,
    that the Antichrist, the person thinking that he has achieved God-hood, be entered into by Satan to carry out the act of betrayal, the transgression of desolation.

    Which in Ezekiel 28:1-10, God has the person killed for it. So Satan and the man of sin, he possesses, find themselves in hell, the place of the unsaved dead, in Isaiah 14... before being cast out.
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    Regardless, it does not apply to Satan or the king of Babylon as being a fit - that the person is likened to an abominable branch. Nor because he destroys his land and his people.
     
  19. Marilyn C

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    Thank you BABerean for that interesting and informative video.

    Marilyn.
     
  20. Marilyn C

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    Hi Douggg,

    The descriptions in Isa. 14 go far transcend any earthly king and (as I said before) by the law of double reference reveal the original power and beauty of the greatest angel ever created by God. The same can be said of the person in Ezekiel 28.

    So we both agree that Satan will enter the lawless one and he will thus be possessed by Satan.

    Marilyn.
     
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