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Featured The Bible's Laws on Divorce and Remarriage.

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Bible Highlighter, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery (Matthew 5:32).

    In Matthew 19:9 it says: “Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, commits adultery;"

    Some think you can divorce for other reasons.
     
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  2. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    @Jon Osterman

    People divorce for all kinds of reasons these days. The Bible says you are not to divorce except for the cause of adultery (i.e. the other person is cheating). So if you were to leave your wife over something that was so trivial, then you would be violating the Word of God and you would show that your marriage is not really built on loving her like you should. What would she find about my life? What secrets do I have to hide? Is our private life so private that we cannot share it with our own wives. There should be no secrets between us. Granted, the enemy does try to destroy us, and I think there are things between us and God that we can confess and forsake, but if there is a problem in our life, this problem should not be hidden from your wife.
     
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  3. Lost4words

    Lost4words In reality, an old dog! Supporter

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    What about someone who is married to a violent wife beater?
     
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  4. brinny

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    Adultery is horrendous, and therefore biblical grounds for divorce.

    However the threat of harm and/or murderous intent to a spouse and/or children is considerably more heinous and downright evil and wicked. Divorce under such circumstances are warranted and needed point blank for the safety and well being of the spouse and/or any children involved.

    The breach-er of the marriage is already the one intending harm to the spouse and/or children. They have severed the marriage ties already by posing such a threat to the very lives of the spouse and/or children, by "running them off" and/or causing them to hide like refugees.

    They have, in essence, ripped the marriage covenant in shreds.

    The ones escaping from this abysmal dilemma and the spouse seeking protection, many times through a divorce are not sinning nor are they at fault.

    The one with murderous intent is.
     
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  5. Undenied

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    Jason0047, I agree with you. I just add that in some cases, like domestic violence, substance abuse, etc., it is safer to be separated, but always working on healing, always being supportive and loyal.
     
  6. Chris V++

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    Wasn't there also a provision in scripture for letting an unbelieving spouse out of the marriage, should that spouse decide they want out. The Christian can't initiate the divorce but should the unbeliever seek divorce the Christian is ok to end the marriage.
     
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  7. Dave-W

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    Fornication is not the same as adultery. No divorce necessary for adultery as the offender is to be killed.
     
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  8. Dave-W

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    biblical grounds for the death penalty.
     
  9. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    I would say that living in separate places and having a restraining order on them but not being divorced until they are reformed would be the appropriate action to take biblically. Jesus did not give us any other reason besides divorce except for unfaithfulness.
     
  10. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    LOL! Your post made me do a double take hahaaa
     
  11. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    LOL! i had forgotten about that

    ^_^
     
  12. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    You are arguing with the words of the Bible and not me.
     
  13. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    Uh, that's Old Covenant.
     
  14. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    I would like to honestly agree. But the Bible only gives us one reason. I would say living a part and having a restraining order on the other person is sensible until they are reformed would be the way to go. Praying for their healing if that will ever happen. Holding out hope that God can change them (while living separately far from each other but yet still married).
     
  15. Dave-W

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    No - I am agreeing with the words of the bible. Look it up. Fornication (pornia) and adultery (moichaō) are not the same thing.
     
  16. Dave-W

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    Is it? Show me specifics of what it changed to.
     
  17. brinny

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    Restraining orders are violated frequently. I was speaking of extreme and deadly circumstances. Many under this kind of deadly threat where the spouse is bound and determined to kill the hunted one and/or their children and has already attempted to, has broken into where the hunted spouse and children are living (even in safe shelters), and has a repeated pattern of this. Many have had to change their names, and go into hiding which is akin to witness protection. In those extreme circumstances, divorce is necessary as an added means of protection. Yes, it's that bad.

    No one who is forced to flee and hide from this horror is "sinning" in divorcing.
     
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  18. Hazelelponi

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    Okay.. so. There are a couple points I'd like to make. Lets begin with the fact those words about adultery were spoken to national Isreal the people... God's people

    Now, if so we realize that their reasons for divorce were far different than, say, life-endangering physical abuse..

    Second, this was spoken to men. Why? Because they would marry, get bored and get a divorce, leaving said former wife without means of support. Why? Because the grass was always greener on the other side. Then in a divorced state, the wife would run around trying to replace that means of support..

    in general this behavior is bad for society, bad for children to have multiple mommies and daddies and no consistency of parenting.

    It's still bad for society.. btw.. but those are the facts if the matter.

    These verses also starts with whosoever GOD joins together let no man split asunder.

    How many people are actually in a God approved marriage today? One has to wonder.

    Also, does the man who beats his wife half to death and threatens to kill her on a daily basis the type of Israel that Jesus spoke to?

    Was Jesus speaking to the Muslim man who beats his wife half to death and threatens to kill her on a daily basis? Was he speaking to the wife telling her not to save her life?

    I don't think so. Sometimes, we have to look at the circumstances Jesus was speaking to, and not try and apply it to everyone on the planet.

    If your Israel today in a God joined marriage, then your not beating your wife and trying to kill her. Although you might feel bored or frustrated from time to time..

    To them Jesus said stay away from the other side of the fence.
     
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  19. John Bowen

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    From my studies at the time it was a mans culture and men would divorce a woman if they could to find a younger more attractive wife .Woman had no means of support in those times Thats why Jesus said that he was looking out for the women .He also said , " Woe unto you the lawyers who have taken away the key of knowledge " What to lawyers do they say look here paragraph 7 line three says this . Instead of people going within themselves and getting answers to what's best for them in a situation .Where Jesus told us the kingdom of God was .
     
  20. Undenied

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    Indeed, for divorce it gives us only one reason, i agree. But read 1 Corinthians 7:10-11. A wife can leave and live in celibacy. It is not a sin.

    For instance: A woman who has a violent husband, capable of killing her. She is protecting them both by leaving him, while he is in the process of acknowledging the need of help.
    Another example: A husband who has a wife who drinks and exposes their children to shameful behavior. It takes some time for her to acknowledge the need of help, meanwhile she mistreats her children. It is not wrong for him to leave with the children, to a healthier place.

    Healing is a processes and we must look at the bigger picture. What most people don't want is to accept this celibacy condition. they want to be in a marriage or in a completely free state. Sometimes it is dangerous to share a bed with a spouse, sometimes a couple needs to be apart, keep being loyal, working on their problems. It is not a sin not to live under the same roof. Sometimes it is needed. It shouldn't be something final, but seen as a tool for keep people safe.
     
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