'The Best Guerrilla Force in the World'

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BEIRUT, Aug. 14 -- Hezbollah's irregular fighters stood off the modern Israeli army for a month in the hills of southern Lebanon thanks to extraordinary zeal and secrecy, rigorous training, tight controls over the population, and a steady flow of Iranian money to acquire effective weaponry, according to informed assessments in Lebanon and Israel.

"They are the best guerrilla force in the world," said a Lebanese specialist who has sifted through intelligence on Hezbollah for more than two decades and strongly opposes the militant Shiite Muslim movement.

Because Hezbollah was entrenched in friendly Shiite-inhabited villages and underground bunkers constructed in secret over several years, a withering Israeli air campaign and a tank-led ground assault were unable to establish full control over a border strip and sweep it clear of Hezbollah guerrillas -- one of Israel's main declared war aims. Largely as a result, the U.N. Security Council resolution approved unanimously Friday night fell short of the original objectives laid out by Israel and the Bush administration when the conflict began July 12.

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Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/13/AR2006081300719_pf.html
 

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Because Hezbollah was entrenched in friendly Shiite-inhabited villages and underground bunkers constructed in secret over several years....
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And under UN observation the whole time.
 
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From the article:

Hezbollah's staying power on the battlefield came from a classic fish-in-the-sea advantage enjoyed by guerrillas on their home ground, hiding in their own villages and aided by their relatives.

How many of these people are included in the innocent civilian body-count?

I always thought that the homeground for Hezbollah was in Iran.......
 
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Again from the article:

Another difference that gave Hezbollah fighters an edge is the experience they acquired in combating Israeli troops during the nearly two decades of Israeli occupation in southern Lebanon that ended in 2000.

If, according to the Washington Post (hardly Israel friendly), the Israeli occupation of Lebanon ended in 2000 why was Hezbollah still in existence? Why didn't they declare victory in 2000 and go home?

I've been told over and over that the purpose in their creation was to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. That was over with. Instead of declaring victory Hezbollah built up its defenses, cached more weapons, and finally provoked Israel enough to cause her to come back into Lebanon.

Way to go Hezbollah. :doh:
 
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Some god tells them to hide with the women and children, it's gods work they are doing after all. They are not great fighters, that fact could be proven in a NY minute if they would fight. Sending missles out from some local day care center or housing development is not the act of a warrior, nor could it be orders from a mighty God. It's simply the hardned hate filled hearts of men. They are anything but great.
 
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Just making sure this part sees the light of day as well:

Reporters who over the last month went to the bombed-out sections of southern Beirut suburbs where Hezbollah had its headquarters were approached within minutes by young men asking who they were and what they were doing there. Interviews with the people living there, most of whom were ardent Hezbollah supporters, were not allowed, the young men said.

I'd be surprised if there were ANY innocent civilian deaths in Lebanon at this point.
 
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eldermike said:
Some god tells them to hide with the women and children, it's gods work they are doing after all. They are not great fighters, that fact could be proven in a NY minute if they would fight. Sending missles out from some local day care center or housing development is not the act of a warrior, nor could it be orders from a mighty God. It's simply the hardned hate filled hearts of men. They are anything but great.



Ain't That The Truth! satan is their god. They are yellow-bellied, dust-sucking, cowards! (I need a snake emoticon to show them under it's belly,)LOL:sick: :sick:
 
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Vylo said:
I'm not sure how you can expect them to go against Hezbollah, which has provided them with social services. One side gives you aid, the other bombs and taken land. Which do you support?

One side ended its occupation, the other side continued, and through their tactics invites daily attacks upon civilian areas.

If Hizbollah is so socially conscious, how come they keep basing troops and firing from civilian areas?
 
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LogicChristian said:
One side ended its occupation, the other side continued, and through their tactics invites daily attacks upon civilian areas.

If Hizbollah is so socially conscious, how come they keep basing troops and firing from civilian areas?
1. Israel has debatably not ended their occupation.

2. To make it more difficult for Israel to target them. I don't agree with their tactics, I find them cowardly, but they do serve a utlitarian purpose. One would have to get inside the minds of some of Hezbollah to truly know why they do it, and why they feel it is justified.
 
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Vylo said:
I'm not sure how you can expect them to go against Hezbollah, which has provided them with social services. One side gives you aid, the other bombs and taken land. Which do you support?

Hezbollah intent of distrubuting Iran's aid is to purchase the hearts and minds of a people for the express purpose of killing jews. With the stolen minds of it's people we get further destruction of a free Lebanon. The state within the state is the issue at hand. Leabnon will not be free until Iran's long arm is pulled out of it.
 
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Vylo said:
1. Israel has debatably not ended their occupation.

That might be debatable, what's known absolutely is that Hizbollah did not disarm as promised, and instead vastly expanded its military capability.
Vylo said:
2. To make it more difficult for Israel to target them. I don't agree with their tactics, I find them cowardly, but they do serve a utlitarian purpose. One would have to get inside the minds of some of Hezbollah to truly know why they do it, and why they feel it is justified.

These tactics also draw some of the sharpest criticism of Syria, Iran, and Hizbollah both within Lebanon and internationally. While they do enjoy support in some parts of the nation, them and their sponsors have been heavily criticized at many junctures, particularly around the time of the Hariri assassination. Hizbollah and its sponsors have done a lot more harm than good in Lebanon in the past 25 years. In effect, Lebanon, and its civilians, have been used constantly as pawns in a foreign effort against Israel.

If Hizbollah is fighting for Lebanon and really wants to aid Lebanese, why have they engaged in tactics designed to maximize the possibility of Israel killing civilians?
 
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