The Bereans

Fireinfolding · Aug 17, 2011

Michael Collum said:
I recall in Romans it is written "who are you to judge another man's servant?" it is by God that i stand or fall . i think it a bit presumptuous to be judging like that at all . i mean, if i did that .. you would not be happy .

Know the difference MC?

Romans 3:4... let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

1Cr 10:15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Part of proving all things

Gregory Thompson · Aug 17, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Know the difference MC?

Romans 3:4... let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

1Cr 10:15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

Mat 12:37 Forby thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Part of proving all things

I'll stick with the let God be true and every wo/man a liar . that's all i need to know

God already knows me, don't need to prove anything

everything else is the sin of people pleasing

Fireinfolding · Aug 17, 2011

Michael Collum said:
I'll stick with the let God be true and every wo/man a liar . that's all i need to know

Yes, you stand and fall in the eyes of folks who believe Him over another.

You actually should MC, Id encourage it

razeontherock · Aug 19, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Shown in various ways too, you can work this in

Prov 20:5 Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out.

1Cr 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

It was the sixth hour there too, did you notice that Lamb?

Darkness and the sixth hour connect even as the Spirit of God moved upon the face of waters

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Notice void in respects to counsel (His Spirit is of) and darkness (of heart) or as without understanding is shown as opposed to Prov 20:5 in relation to counsel show the same of a people (waters)

Duet 32:28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

Too kool!

Compare also:

Job 38:2 Who [is] this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?"

Seems to be consistent lingo, and as such a "key" to understanding what is being said.

Fireinfolding · Aug 19, 2011

razeontherock said:
Compare also:

Job 38:2 Who [is] this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?"

Seems to be consistent lingo, and as such a "key" to understanding what is being said.

Amen Raze! Yes! its beautiful in every place, you can catch it Gen, on the cross, in counsel, yes bro

I have been looking at this too, I was snipping parts from my studying theres a consistent patern in these things

God so rocks, bless you brother

Rick Otto · Aug 20, 2011

Fireinfolding · Aug 20, 2011

Fireinfolding · Aug 20, 2011

How cool, I thought since I ran "Bereas" name I'd try the other (lol)

Berea = "well watered"

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Thessalonica = "victory of falsity"

How cool is that?

LittleLambofJesus · Sep 9, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
How cool, I thought since I ran "Bereas" name I'd try the other (lol)

Berea = "well watered"

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Thessalonica = "victory of falsity"

How cool is that?

I like it!
I started this thread on if you or others are interested

http://www.christianforums.com/t7585054/
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Sieben · Sep 9, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
How cool, I thought since I ran "Bereas" name I'd try the other (lol)

Berea = "well watered"

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Thessalonica = "victory of falsity"

How cool is that?

How did you come to the conclusion that berea = well watered, and thessalnoica = victory of falsity? Not that I am doubting you. Just I can't believe something unless I go over it my self

Thekla · Sep 9, 2011

Actually, Thessaloniki was the name of the half-sister of Alexander the Great and daughter of Phillip of Macedon; some say the city was named for her.

The ending of Thessaloniki means "victory", and is said to commemorate the victory over the inhabitants of Thessalia. Thessalia means roughly "the place where prayers are answered".

Hope that helps

I thought to add:
Herodotus and Thucydides (historians) identify the Thessalians as migrating from Epiros and conquering the Phokians (the older inhabitants of the region). While still in Epiros, the Thessalians were called a people "from the place where prayers are processed", as they originally lived in the area of the oracle of Dodona. They just carried their name with them, and gave it to their new place of habitation.

Beroia was named for the goddess of the same name, a daughter some say of Oceanus and Thetis two water dieties, and may mean either "rich in water" (thus Fif's well watered) or "produces pomegranites". Given her parents, I think well watered is more likely.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 23, 2011

Thekla said:
Actually, Thessaloniki was the name of the half-sister of Alexander the Great and daughter of Phillip of Macedon; some say the city was named for her.

The ending of Thessaloniki means "victory", and is said to commemorate the victory over the inhabitants of Thessalia. Thessalia means roughly "the place where prayers are answered".

Hope that helps

I thought to add:
Herodotus and Thucydides (historians) identify the Thessalians as migrating from Epiros and conquering the Phokians (the older inhabitants of the region). While still in Epiros, the Thessalians were called a people "from the place where prayers are processed", as they originally lived in the area of the oracle of Dodona. They just carried their name with them, and gave it to their new place of habitation.

Beroia was named for the goddess of the same name, a daughter some say of Oceanus and Thetis two water dieties, and may mean either "rich in water" (thus Fif's well watered) or "produces pomegranites". Given her parents, I think well watered is more likely.

Great info Thekla, as usual

LittleLambofJesus · Mar 3, 2012

Originally Posted by Fireinfolding

How cool, I thought since I ran "Bereas" name I'd try the other (lol)

Berea = "well watered"

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Thessalonica = "victory of falsity"

How cool is that?

Sieben said:
How did you come to the conclusion that berea = well watered, and thessalnoica = victory of falsity?
Not that I am doubting you. Just I can't believe something unless I go over it my self

Have you gone over it yet?

LittleLambofJesus · Mar 3, 2012

Rick Otto said:

What are you grinning at?

LittleLambofJesus · Jun 16, 2012

Originally Posted by shinbits

Acts 17:11:

"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."

This passage proves that Scripture is to be held the ultimate authority, certainly more so than "oral testimony". The Bible goes so far as to commend the Bereans as "more noble" than another group, for checking what was testified against Scripture.

This DOESN'T mean that "oral testimony" isn't important; so nobody needs to cry about how the Bereans wouldn't have know Jesus came if not for testimony; it simply means that Scripture is the ultimate authority, not "oral tradition". Oral tradition is good, only if it is in light of Scripture. The Bereans wouldn't have accepted Paul's testimony if it didn't line up with Scripture.

Peace.

Dark_Lite said:
Where does this say scripture is the ultimate authority?

Good question

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Rick Otto · Jun 16, 2012

LittleLambofJesus said:
What are you grinning at?

I was just wondering what the heck you're doing here.

Rick Otto · Jun 16, 2012

LittleLambofJesus said:
Good question

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You can read it in the same place you find hitting your thumb with a hammer is a bad idea. Experience has a way of illustrating things our intellect refuses to acknowlege. The experience of the Bereans was that being teachable, they were able to verify new testimony by correlating it with old testimony.

sunlover1 · Jun 24, 2012

Rick Otto said:
... The experience of the Bereans was that being teachable, they were able to verify new testimony by correlating it with old testimony.

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 31, 2013

Originally Posted by Rick Otto

... The experience of the Bereans was that being teachable, they were able to verify new testimony by correlating it with old testimony.

sunlover1 said:

I agree!

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