The beast - the EU

[shilohsfoal]

The extensive detail of Gog/Magog are in Ezekiel 38-39. What is there in Ezekiel 39 that proves Gog/Magog of Ezekiel 38-39, takes place at the end of the 1000 years?

Those who deny Christ are not given a time period for Gogs invasion of Israel.God reserved that information for the servants of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 1:1 This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John,

There is no time period given in ezekiel 38-39.Thats why you were not able to quote God giving a time period in ezekiel.

 

[shilohsfoal]

While those in israel who deny Christ go about teaching and preaching God will rescue them from Gog,this is what they will face.

Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter the old men, the young men and maidens, the women and children, but do not go near anyone who has the mark. Now begin at My sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were before the temple.

Only those who jesus seals shall be saved.

 

[keras]

There is no time period given in ezekiel 38-39.Thats why you were not able to quote God giving a time period in ezekiel.

Wrong. G/M will attack a people recently brought out of the nations, living in the holy Land recently restored from ruin, without defenses,

safe and prosperous.
These people are all the Lord's faithful people, gathered there soon after the Sixth Seal devastation has cleared and cleansed the entire Middle East. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Isaiah 35:1-10

The mention of another attack at the end of the Millennium, is just to describe the type; of a vast army; this time from all around the world.
Quite different, the reason for it, what happens to them and their bodies, etc.​

 

[shilohsfoal]

Wrong. G/M will attack a people recently brought out of the nations, living in the holy Land recently restored from ruin, without defenses,

safe and prosperous.
These people are all the Lord's faithful people, gathered there soon after the Sixth Seal devastation has cleared and cleansed the entire Middle East. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Isaiah 35:1-10

The mention of another attack at the end of the Millennium, is just to describe the type; of a vast army; this time from all around the world.
Quite different, the reason for it, what happens to them and their bodies, etc.​

You ned to read what you are replying to before you say someone is wrong in what they said.
You claim i am wrong then you post the verse in ezekiel 38-39 that says what time period Gog will invade israel.If you can not and you cant ,then its not me thats wrong and you need to retract what you just said.
Prove me wrong son.

 

[keras]

Prove me wrong son.

I just did!
How can 'just restored from ruin', relate to the end of the 1000 year time of Jesus' rule.

 

[Douggg]

Those who deny Christ are not given a time period for Gogs invasion of Israel.God reserved that information for the servants of Jesus Christ.

Ezekiel 38 and 39 are books of the bible. It is available to everyone.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

 

[Douggg]

I just did!
How can 'just restored from ruin', relate to the end of the 1000 year time of Jesus' rule.

I agree. But change the period to a question mark. Yes, it is nit-picky... but I want to hear the answer.

 

[shilohsfoal]

I just did!
How can 'just restored from ruin', relate to the end of the 1000 year time of Jesus' rule.

Dont lie.Quote the verse son.
And dont change Gods word as you often do adding your own words such as "just".

 

[shilohsfoal]

Ezekiel 38 and 39 are books of the bible. It is available to everyone.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

The above verse does not give a time period before the 1000 yeas.In fact it shows the people dwell "safely " .The people in israel do not dwell safely till after the war of Armegeddon.
How can,they dwell safely if they can still die?
Do you call being killed or being raped "safe"?

Zechariah 14:2 KJV: For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

You call being raped by muslims "safe"?

 

[Douggg]

The above verse does not give a time period before the 1000 yeas.In fact it shows the people dwell "safely " .The people in israel do not dwell safely till after the war of Armegeddon.
How can,they dwell safely if they can still die?
Do you call being killed or being raped "safe"?

Zechariah 14:2 KJV: For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

You call being raped by muslims "safe"?

It does not say they cannot die. The invaders in fact die. So it is not a time that there is no more death.

The whole world knows that the Jews came out of the nations and Israel was born a nation again in a single day - fulfilling Isaiah 66:8. It is only Muslims, some ultra Orthodox Jews, and some replacement theology Christians - who are in denial that refuse to accept reality.

Being raped by a muslim is more likely in Europe than Israel. That is not what ti is talking about living in peace anyway. It is going to be interesting what President Trump presents as his peace plan before the United Nations.

 

[shilohsfoal]

It does not say they cannot die. The invaders in fact die. So it is not a time that there is no more death.

The whole world knows that the Jews came out of the nations and Israel was born a nation again in a single day - fulfilling Isaiah 66:8. It is only Muslims, some ultra Orthodox Jews, and some replacement theology Christians - who are in denial that refuse to accept reality.

Being raped by a muslim is more likely in Europe than Israel. That is not what ti is talking about living in peace anyway. It is going to be interesting what President Trump presents as his peace plan before the United Nations.

The verse you quoted says they dwell safely,all of them.You quoted the verse.

Ezekiel 38:8 KJV: After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

And yet you say they are safe before they are killed,and the women,raped.

Zechariah 14:2 KJV: For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

You preach woman dwells safely in jerusalem while she is being raped?
Are those women safe as you claim they are?

Your backward.

 

[Douggg]

And yet you say they are safe before they are killed,and the women,raped.

I am saying the Jews came out of WWII from being mass exterminated, back into their own country again. Living in peace and safety - from what they experienced before.

"You preach woman dwells safely in jerusalem while she is being raped?
Are ther women safe as you claim they are?

It is not talking about living free from any possibility of a crime happening. You are not citing the the daily life of Jews in Israel today.

 

[shilohsfoal]

I am saying the Jews came out of WWII from being mass exterminated, back into their own country again. Living in peace and safety - from what they experienced before.

It is not talking about living free from any possibility of a crime happening. You are not citing the the daily life of Jews in Israel today.

Women being raped are not safe Doug.You are wrong.

 

[Douggg]

Women being raped are not safe Doug.You are wrong.

Women are raped in the U.S. Crime is committed in the U.S. But not mass extermination, like the Jews had experienced in WWII.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Women are raped in the U.S. Crime is committed in the U.S. But not mass extermination, like the Jews had experienced in WWII.

God never said the people in the US dwell safely.

Ezekiel 38:14 Therefore prophesy, son of man, and tell Gog that this is what the Lord GOD says: 'On that day when My people Israel are dwelling securely, will you not take notice of this?
According to you,God says the people in israel dwell safely.
Then they are killed,raped and led away into captivity.

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into captivity, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

You believe that is living in safety.

 

[Douggg]

According to you,God says the people in israel dwell safely.
Then they are killed,raped and led away into captivity.

It is a tenative peace and safety, Israel dwells in since Israel became a nation again.

Following Gog/Magog, and the arrival of the prince who shall come - the Jews will think they have entered the messianic age of peace and safety.

1Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

They shall not escape the great tribulation. They will have to endure it. Jesus returns in Ezekiel 39:17-29, to end the great tribulation. Jesus is speaking in verse 21 about just having executing judgment of them who thought they could make war on him.

Gog/Magog,
then false messianic age begins, the beginning of the 7 years,
then the great tribulation,
then Armageddon, Ezekiel 17-20, at Jesus's Return.

Then the 1000 years.
Then the final rebellion of Satan and the nations, which include the Gog-Magog nations 1007 years before.

 

[shilohsfoal]

It is a tenative peace and safety, Israel dwells in since Israel became a nation again.

Following Gog/Magog, and the arrival of the prince who shall come - the Jews will think they have entered the messianic age of peace and safety.

1Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

They shall not escape the great tribulation. They will have to endure it. Jesus returns in Ezekiel 39:17-29, to end the great tribulation. Jesus is speaking in verse 21 about just having executing judgment of them who thought they could make war on him.

Gog/Magog,
then false messianic age begins, the beginning of the 7 years,
then the great tribulation,
then Armageddon, Ezekiel 17-20, at Jesus's Return.

Then the 1000 years.
Then the final rebellion of Satan and the nations, which include the Gog-Magog nations 1007 years before.

So you believe God is not honest when he says they dwell safely.You believe theyare really not safe.
This is what you preach?

 

[Douggg]

So you believe God is not honest when he says they dwell safely.You believe theyare really not safe.
This is what you preach?

Now what kind of question is that, shilohsfoal?

What is President Trump going to talk about soon?

 

[shilohsfoal]

Now what kind of question is that, shilohsfoal?

What is President Trump going to talk about soon?

Do youbelieve God or not?

Ezekiel 38:8 KJV: After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Is all of israel safe like God says?
Yes or no?

 

[Douggg]

Do youbelieve God or not?

The question is against the rules of this forum. Drop it.

Ezekiel 38:8 KJV: After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Is all of israel safe like God says?
Yes or no?

They are all dwelling safely in that no group of them is being persecuted by the gentiles.