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Currently I think that Jesus died on a cross and appeared to people in visions after his death or it was a mistaken identity. It could involve rumours and legends that got elaborated on. Note this is a very complicated topic due to the numerous appearances (to women, the disciples, Paul, etc) I probably can't argue very convincingly on this topic but I thought I'd have a go.
From
The cross from a paper plane....
1 Corinthians 15:4-8
It seems the order of some of these appearances is different from the gospels and Acts. Note that it doesn't seem to mention the women. But in the original version of Mark it only mentions the women and no-one else.
As far as the 500 go, I don't think that is mentioned anywhere else. I've heard some Christians say that if people in Paul's time wanted to check they would be able to just do it. But Paul doesn't even mention where those 500 saw Jesus or when or who so it would be hard to double check.
When it says "he appeared to me" Paul is talking about his vision so perhaps some of the other appearances are also visions.
Well it says "as to the child born at the wrong time" so is that saying that Paul was born after Jesus lived?
There is a Wikipedia article about this topic:
Post-Resurrection appearances of Jesus - Wikipedia
BTW note that in some of the gospels the women and some of the disciples sometimes didn't recognise Jesus at all... maybe it wasn't Jesus. Also in the gospels it said that some thought that Jesus was John the Baptist or Elijah.
I guess some Christians will say that group hallucinations aren't really possible but here is what Bart Ehrman had to say:
https://ehrmanblog.org/what-really-happens-with-group-visions/
I also have a problem that besides Paul and the disciples, the people who saw Jesus were already believers. I think it would be more amazing if normal people like critics saw Jesus too.
From
The cross from a paper plane....
.....The evidence of the bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ was witnessed by at least 500 eyewitnesses (1 Corinthians 15:6).
1 Corinthians 15:4-8
he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to over five hundred brothers at once, most of whom remain until now, but some have also fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all, as to the child born at the wrong time, he appeared to me also.
It seems the order of some of these appearances is different from the gospels and Acts. Note that it doesn't seem to mention the women. But in the original version of Mark it only mentions the women and no-one else.
As far as the 500 go, I don't think that is mentioned anywhere else. I've heard some Christians say that if people in Paul's time wanted to check they would be able to just do it. But Paul doesn't even mention where those 500 saw Jesus or when or who so it would be hard to double check.
When it says "he appeared to me" Paul is talking about his vision so perhaps some of the other appearances are also visions.
Well it says "as to the child born at the wrong time" so is that saying that Paul was born after Jesus lived?
There is a Wikipedia article about this topic:
Post-Resurrection appearances of Jesus - Wikipedia
BTW note that in some of the gospels the women and some of the disciples sometimes didn't recognise Jesus at all... maybe it wasn't Jesus. Also in the gospels it said that some thought that Jesus was John the Baptist or Elijah.
I guess some Christians will say that group hallucinations aren't really possible but here is what Bart Ehrman had to say:
https://ehrmanblog.org/what-really-happens-with-group-visions/
I also have a problem that besides Paul and the disciples, the people who saw Jesus were already believers. I think it would be more amazing if normal people like critics saw Jesus too.
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