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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by IT REALLY SAYS, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. IT REALLY SAYS

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    Daniel 9:24-27 - we know this is endtimes because as soon as Israel has paid for the transgressions mentioned here theres an end to sin and everlasting righteousness - which can only happen when God takes over from man...
    9:26 this verse tells us about the romans 70ad destruction of the temple and city, and the prince of the romans that shall come
    9:27 shall make a covenant (replacing Gods) with many for 7 years
    (Many - usa EU islam israel etc)
    So ofcourse this rules out an islamic antichrist seen by some....

    Daniel also tells us that this roman prince will be able to go peaceable into all the fat places of the world 11:24 - again rules out islam - this is why the king in Rev 6 is given a crown to rule - Given not taken

    Theres one person who has called for over the last 2 years
    a one world government under climate science leadership and a one world government of religions and who pushes open boarders bringing about the new world order..... theres only one man who the UN would accept and this is also why the pope teaches that muslims and catholics have the same god because the pope then means to islam that your allah is the same as biblical god and the one true god.... and yet catholics stay the catholic course....

    Islam could never take over the world before hundreds of nukes would be shot off first..... they get wasted fighting american troops at their home base and certainly they wouldnt take over anything the militarys in the world control,

    Remember in this last war the west can bomb everyone on the other side and not have to worry about anyone who dies (children women) like they do now so it will be even worse for islamic fighters...... besides the bible tells us Gog (islam) only fights around israel since thats what gog attacks....

    You simply cannot turn the romans and their prince into an islamic host.
     
  2. frienden thalord

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    Indeed. they have not the power . BUT INTERFAITH , those elites DO.
    Most have no idea the ONE WORLD RELGION its ALREADY HERE
    its began. its getting all peoples of all tribes religions , ready now.
    This religion is accepting of the gay movment , of all religions.
    YET . ONE religion , one god will be above all gods , all religions. HUMANITY.
    if we examine the core of interfaith all religions are SECOND to HUMANITY.
    thus one soon comes who will exalt himself above all gods , all religions ...and man
    the dark spirit behind this interfaith is leadilng the world right to him.
    It prepares the hearts of the people , to make ready a people......NOT FOR CHRIST
    or its message would be JESUS ONLY and REPENT of sins.
    no its message is ACCEPTANCE of sins and calls it love.
    My , oh my, the peoples are under a delusion , the delusion of all delusions
    to have the people for world peace and unity believe the lie that all roads lead to GOD.
    Most do not take heed to JESUS own words of how it would be nigh the end.
    Some think the betrayer , the deceiver comes from the muslim religion.
    But it does not. the first thing JESUS told his own
    was take heed that you be not deceived for many shall come IN MY NAME
    not allahs, not buddas.........HIS...........and shall deceive MANY.
    Also if we take note.............JESUS actually calls judas, THE SON OF PERDITION..
    the final coming SON of perdtion , the betrayer of the church
    does not come from without.........it is as juda......A PRETENDER
    from within our own RELIGION...............and it will have horns like a lamb
    appear in jesus name..........but no marvel , satan appears as light
    his minisitirs can appear as righteous men . . Beware the false prophet
    who points to the beast and causes all to worship the beast......
    INTERFAITH POINTS to man, it points to the world , its system.......
    and worse...........interfaith began......FROM men who lie , IN OUR OWN RELIGOIN.
    What a smoke in the nostrils this must be to GOD
    when men who claim they come in JESUS name.....yet make a religion
    that says HE IS NOT the ONLY WAY.........talk about trodding the son under foot
    and all for world peace , all for money and power ..............soon
    the few will be betrayed in the greatest world wide tribulation ever seen. and they will
    think they do gods will for peace and unity as they have us killed............and its
    fast approaching that hour............
     
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    From the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.


    Daniel 9:27

    And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

    (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

    (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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    Did Christ fulfill Daniel 9:24 during the first century?

    Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 


    Act 10:38  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 


    Heb 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 
    Heb 10:17  And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 
    Heb 10:18  Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 



    Was there a period of time when the Gospel was taken first to Daniel's people before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles?

    Mat 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 
    Mat 10:6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 
    Mat 10:7  And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 


    Gal 1:14  And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. 
    Gal 1:15  But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, 
    Gal 1:16  To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: 
    Gal 1:17  Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. 
    Gal 1:18  Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. 


    Who Confirmed The Covenant?
    James Lloyd

    http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

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  4. frienden thalord

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    its got horns like a LAMB but speaks as a DRAGON..........
     
  5. frienden thalord

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    The religion of interfaith , the religion to unite the religions
    WAS BORN FROM ROME. ROME
     
  6. IT REALLY SAYS

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    Bab, first off v24 leads right to God ruling and since that hasnt happened this hasnt happened....

    I see you support jews for Jesus....

    I see they use the star of their god remphan aka star of david.
    its condemned by God in acts 7:43..... if I remember right it got sucked down with the golden calf during its exodus out of egypt.... see amos 5:26 also.....
     
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    Friendenthelord: yep....To look like a lamb seemingly a godly man (to blind)
    but does not speak for God but satan
     
  8. Revealing Times

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    You do understand the word "Covenant" is only Hebrew for Agreement right? So God made an AGREEMENT with Abraham, and the Anti-Christ via subterfuge and deceit makes an AGREEMENT with MANY, not just Israel. IMHO, he creates a Peace/Security Deal with Israel and the Arabs where he is given the responsibility to Secure the Region like the USA Secured Japan/Germany for years. Why people assume a Covenant is a HOLY AGREEMENT is beyond me, it is not, unless its an agreement between God and Men.

    I agree, the Anti-Christ is not Islamic, he will destroy Islam. He is born in Greece and comes to power via the European Union.

    The Anti-Christ is also not a RCC leader. He is a GENTILE GEO-POLITICAL LEADER, like the Other 6 Beast Kingdoms.
     
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    Friend.... the world will worship the antichrist and satan the dragon..... the pope unlike his fathers...(other popes) will openly promote satan as god.....
     
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    Hmmm seems the word God used in Gen 6:18 is the same used in Daniel 9:27.....
     
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    Revealing times seems to forget that the agreement is signs by a prince of the romans.... not greeks.... how clear can 9:26-27 be.... we know romans destroyed tye temple and it is their prince....... says roman to me....
     
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    Yeah I dont know why I included replacing gods...
     
  13. frienden thalord

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    The anti Christ may not be a RCC leader. But the RCC seems to fit the mold
    for the false prophet who causes the world to worship the beast. this interfaith will do that job .
     
  14. frienden thalord

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    That sound bout right. this coming false prophet , it is the one who causes the world
    to worship the beast. Interfaith will do just that . it will lead the world to worship the beast.
     
  15. frienden thalord

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    it appears the beast will arise from the world
    while the false prophet from religion that points To the beast , causes the world to worship
    the beast.
     
  16. Revealing Times

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    Well you act like that is something no one else understands. The Church is in Heaven, the 1/3 of Israel who flee unto the Wilderness are protected by God. There will be many that Worship the Anti-Christ as God, whether they love Humanism or were forced to worship him or die. That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is a Geo-Political Leader. I mean you just threw that out their as if it meant you had to be correct, you of course are not. This Geo-Political Leader, the Little Horn of Daniel chapters 7 & 8 will be Worshiped as god. He will demand it. That's why he/his Kings destroys the Harlot in Rev. 17:16.

    As per them worshiping the Dragon (Satan) I think that part of the Vision goes more like this. John sees a Vision where all mankind worships the Anti-Christ BEAST and thus by so doing they are WORSHIPING SATAN the god of this world. You might could say that every person in this world today that LOVES THIS WORLD is Worshiping Satan. Jesus told us to HATE THIS WORLD, or else the love of God is not in us. So the "Worshiping of Satan/Dragon" is probably more or less the World following his evil ways instead of Gods Ways. By absentia they worship Satan via Worshiping the BEAST he placed in power.

    The Pope has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ. Its not a Religious person, its an ATHEIST, just as Daniel 11 says.
     
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    Not at all. I used to be at the exact same place. The Sea means the Gentile Sea of Nations. Arising out of the Land means he will be a Jew/Jewish Rabbi or Prophet of some kind.

    Both are Head Fakes by Satan. He will not be an Islamic Leader nor of the RCC. He will be just as the Six who came before him were, all Leaders of Kingdoms in the Region, who were Gentile Kings. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. This last BEAST will be a MAN who comes to power in the European Union.
     
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  18. frienden thalord

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    You peaked my curiosity. So let me ask you a question.
    Interfaith . Do you see it as good or evil.
     
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    Nowhere in Scripture do we find a singularized capital A Antichrist. In the passages in 1 John 2, 1 John 4, and 2 John 1 in which the word appears, it is decapitalized, in recognition that it does not refer to a singularized individual. This is reinforced in 1 John 2:18, which speaks of many antichrists. The remaining passages in 1 John and 2 John describe the characteristics whereby an antichrist can be recognized.

    Nevertheless, professing dispensationalists virtually universally subscribe to the doctrine of a singular Antichrist. What remains conspicuously untold is the history of the doctrine's origin and proliferation.

    Into the second half of the 16th century, the Protestant Reformation was experiencing notable success in casting off the spiritual chains characterizing the papal Roman, i.e Roman Catholic (RC), empire’s Dark Ages. Two of the foundational proclamations upon which said success rested were: (1) The just shall live by faith; and (2) The papacy is an antichrist. For these, particularly the latter, multitudes of Reformation leaders and followers ultimately paid with their lives. Evidence for the latter was recognized from prophecies in Daniel and Revelation; from the RC church’s own arrogated title for the pope, VICARIVS FILII DEII (Latin for Vicar of the Son of God); and for the pope’s own direct claims (Pope Pius XI, “I am God on the earth.”).

    Notable also is the sum of the Latin numerals in VICARIVS FILII DEII of 666, which may or may not be considered to be of significance.

    The RC church’s own foundations were crumbling under the Reformation onslaught, and the necessity for a counter strategy was being exigently recognized. Francisco Ribera (1537-1591), a priest within the RC order of the Jesuits, was commissioned with the task. He responded by producing a 500 page commentary which speculated upon a single future Antichrist who would abolish Christianity, claim to be God, and conquer the world. This was the beginning of the counter-Reformation doctrines of futurism which became intrinsic to contemporary dispensationalism.

    Ribera’s futurism was further disseminated within RC ranks by Italian cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621), and became official RC dogma.

    For a further two centuries, however, only the RC church subscribed to the futurist position. Then in 1826-1830, Samuel Maitland (1792-1866), librarian to the Archbishop of Canterbury, became the first Protestant to adopt it. Disbelieving that the papacy was in the prophecies, he was contemptuous of much of the Reformation.

    James Todd (1805-1869), professor of Hebrew at Trinity College in Dublin, became a subsequent ecclesiologically prominent adherent. Others began to follow.

    Concurrent with these developments were the appearance and rise of Darbyism and the doctrines of modern dispensationalism originated by its founder John Nelson Darby. Futurism was recognized as being a fully compatible and welcome addition, and was quickly integrated. The result was an interpretive system overwhelmingly oriented to futurized speculation and conjecture, with minimal to no regard for the historic prophetic wisdom and sacrifices of the Reformers of old.

    This system ultimately spread globally, and prevails in evangelicalism today.

    Historical Reformation prophetic fulfillment is anathema to dispensational futurized speculation. Until historical Reformation truth is recognized and reclaimed, the delusion and deception of a futurized singularized Antichrist will continue to be perpetuated.
     
  20. Revealing Times

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    People can BE WRONG brother without being the Anti-Christ themselves. Is the Pope of God? I highly doubt he is, but he is not the Anti-Christ. My point is we can have Jim Jones types and David Korsh types in the USA, and that doesn't mean they are the Anti-Christ either. We are discussing who the BEAST is which is also known as the Little Horn/Assyrian/Man of Sin and Anti-Christ by John who made him a singular figure by saying THAT anti-christ, which meant he was referring to a singular being, or pointing towards him.

    There is no God but God/Jesus s any inter-faith that's not about Jesus being Lord of Lords is Evil. BUT....Like I said, their will be many Evil Charlatans who are not THE ANTI-CHRIST, if you catch my drift.

    The RCC angle is a fake by Satan. Way too many things the preach are false teachings. The Islamic angle is wrong also.
     
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