The Antichrist is Not Jewish or Israeli

[Dale]

John Gill can have whatever comment he wanted. But there were only two human kings of Israel before Solomon. Saul and David. It is was not by a law set that those two were anointed king, but by God's instruction. The point is that the only three kings of united Israel involved being anointed by a prophet. That's what the Jews base their belief regarding the King of Israel/Messiah.

Here is what it says in 1Kings1:

32 And king David said, Call me Zadok the priest, and Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada. And they came before the king.

33 The king also said unto them, Take with you the servants of your lord, and cause Solomon my son to ride upon mine own mule, and bring him down to Gihon:

34 And let Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anoint him there king over Israel: and blow ye with the trumpet, and say, God save king Solomon.

John Gill knows far more about Jewish law and ancient Hebrew writings than you do. You ought to take heed. His commentary on Solomon taking the throne also takes account of the actual political situation, that the country had recently been through a revolt, where most army officers and other important people had sided against David. The point of the anointing, by the High Priest, is to solidify Solomon's claim to the throne. Since King David has multiple wives and many children, the line of succession was much murkier than it would be in a European kingdom based on monogamy.

If Nathan had anointed Solomon, his status as an important adviser to David would have been at least as important as his status as a court prophet.

 

[Douggg]

John Gill knows far more about Jewish law and ancient Hebrew writings than you do.

Dale, I don't think John Gill knows more about what the Jews believe than the Jews themselves. They are the ones who believe that the messiah must be anointed the King of Israel by a known prophet. I personally did not come up with it.

 

[Dale]

Yes, I agree with that.

But, Oseas, this is what I think you should consider. The person is anointed the King of Israel, Messiah.

That goes on for several years, before without warning he stops the daily sacrifice, and goes into the temple, sits, claims to be God (2Thessalonians2:4), revealing himself to be the man of sin, son of perdition (not the messiah as the Jews will have intially thought).

So what are the Jews going to do? They are going to reject him from continuing as their King of Israel, Messiah. It would be like the leader of Brazil or the United States one day out of nowhere, make some outrageous claim that he is God. That person would be impeached immediately.

So the Jews rejecting the person - ends his time as the Antichrist, King of Israel coming in his own name. And begins his short run to become the beast, the final king of the Roman Empire in the end times, leader of the EU, dictator.

The AC is fully human, but will be possessed by the fallen archangel Lucifer, at the middle of the tribulation.

That’s why the tribulation becomes the great tribulation.

Both of you say that the Antichrist will be one thing for 3 1/2 years and then suddenly change and become something else for 3 1/2 years. I am not seeing that in the scripture.

The Antichrist emerges from the Gentile sea as the Beast, or the First Beast. He doesn't emerge as a goat and then turn into a seven headed beast later in some dramatic event. What he is is dangerous and diabolic, but it is constant.

 

[Dale]

Dale, I don't think John Gill knows more about what the Jews believe than the Jews themselves. They are the ones who believe that the messiah must be anointed the King of Israel by a known prophet. I personally did not come up with it.

I'm not seeing any reason to believe that even one Jew believes that a new King of Israel will be anointed by a "known prophet."

 

[chad kincham]

Both of you say that the Antichrist will be one thing for 3 1/2 years and then suddenly change and become something else for 3 1/2 years. I am not seeing that in the scripture.

The Antichrist emerges from the Gentile sea as the Beast, or the First Beast. He doesn't emerge as a goat and then turn into a seven headed beast later in some dramatic event. What he is is dangerous and diabolic, but it is constant.

That’s because whatever human is the Antichrist, is shot in the head and killed, then raises up from the dead at mid trib, possessed by Satan himself.

It’s the last 42 months of the 84 month tribulation that the Antichrist gives the mark, and makes war against the saints and wears them out, because he’s possessed then.

 

[Douggg]

I'm not seeing any reason to believe that even one Jew believes that a new King of Israel will be anointed by a "known prophet."

Dale, go to Virtual Yeshiva Discussion Forums - General Judaism Forum

and create a new topic. "Must the King of Israel/Messiah be anointed by a known prophet?"

 

[Douggg]

he Antichrist emerges from the Gentile sea as the Beast, or the First Beast. He doesn't emerge as a goat and then turn into a seven headed beast later in some dramatic event. What he is is dangerous and diabolic, but it is constant.

Step 1. Stop referring to the person as the Antichrist. Instead, refer to him as "the great opposer" (to Jesus).

Step 2. Begin trying to understand the progression of the person (the great opposer) from his beginning to his demise.

 

[Oseas]

Satan is the beast from the land. The only human is the FP from out of the days of Daniel's beast, culminating in one important human, and the only one that Satan is going to use.

In my understand, or better, according Scriptures, the Beast from the land, will manifest himself as a lamb, but he speaks as a Dragon, this explains why Scriptures call him as Dragon, and he -the false lamb, in fact a false messiah- he has two horns because he represents two kingdoms specificaly.

As a political ruler his goal, among many things, is to ruler the world, therefore, he will intervene strongly even in the Economy, that no man might buy or sell, save he that has the mark(1), or the NAME of the Beast(2), or the number of his NAME(3), for it is the number of a MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six, the number of his NAME .


As a religious guide, and leader of the oficial religion of Israel (the Judaism), a wise in Old Testament, as a Rabbi and FALSE PROPHET of the Old Testament -THE TORAH, and whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, this the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah(John 5:v.43-47 and 2Thessalonians 2:v.3-4&9-12) .

He will do great wonders, so that he will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men(esoteric/kabbalistic/spiritist messiah - AN IMPOSTOR), and will deceive them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he has power to do.

NOTE: All false Christians, inclusive false Pastors, false Bishops, among others religious leaders, and their followers, they will be deceived by the spiritist false messiah, the future supreme religious guide and leader of the Jews, who will enthrone himself very soon as a God in the great city called spiritually Sodom and Egypt, where our LORD was crucified.

JESUS warned, saying: Matthew 24:v.22-
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.

 

[Dale]

Step 1. Stop referring to the person as the Antichrist. Instead, refer to him as "the great opposer" (to Jesus).

Step 2. Begin trying to understand the progression of the person (the great opposer) from his beginning to his demise.

You use the term antichrist all the time.

 

[Douggg]

You use the term antichrist all the time.

Yes, I do. But my reference is only for when he is in the King of Israel/messiah (coming in his own name) position. Not as a blanket term.

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little horn, and the beast - the person when he is the King of the Roman Empire. The EU.

......the little horn - the 7th Julio Claudian king of it. Revelation 17:10.

......the beast - the 8th Julio Claudian king of it. Revelation 17:11

the Antichrist - the person when he is the King of Israel, coming in his own name.

the great opposer (to Jesus)
the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

the little horn becomes leader of the eu.

then following Gog/Magog brings his eu army into the middle east, the prince who shall come. To act as peace keeper in the region, Daniel 8:25, he destroys many by peace.

the Jews believe the person is their long awaited King Messiah. The false prophet anoints him the King of Israel (coming in his own name) making the
person.

the Antichrist.

At the anointing ceremony, on the temple mount, ten days after the destruction of Gog's army, the Antichrist confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 years, reading the law to the nation, as was required by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. (only to violate it about three years later.)

the clean up of the land of all the carnage of Gog's destroyed army takes place for the next 7 months - 210 days.

Then on day 220 the animals sacrifices begin. (the 2300 day count of Daniel 8:12-14 begins)

Then in the middle of the seven years, the Antichrist, King of Israel, stops the daily sacrifice, goes into the temple, sits claims to be God. The transgression of
desolation act of Daniel 8:13. Revealing himself to be the man of sin, and not the messiah after all.

The Jews, dumbfounded, will react by refusing him to continue as their King of Israel. Ending his time as the Antichrist.

God has the revealed man of sin killed for his audacious act. Ezekiel 28:1-10. The mortally wounded head in Revelation 13.

Then a few days after the former Jewish (phony) messiah is killed, God casts his soul out of hell, in complete disdain for the person, Isaiah 14:18-20 - the strong delusion that God sends in 2Thessalonians2:9-12.

The world will have witnessed the person killed, and will see him sit up in his casket back alive. Stunned, the world (except the saints) will believe his lie that he has achieved God-hood. Revelation 17:8b.

Coming back to life, the person will be possessed by the garden of eden serpent beast, which will ascend out of the bottomless pit. Revelation 17:8a

The person is now the beast.

The ten EU kings hand the EU over to the beast, to be dictator of, and rule with him. Revelation 17:17. The eighth Julio-Claudian king of the Roman Empire, Revelation 17:11.

The false prophet has the world make a statue image of the beast, and places it in the open courtyard (the wing of the temple) and demands everyone worship it.

the abomination of desolation. On day 1185 of the 7 years. 1335 days before Jesus returns.

The Jews in Judea begin fleeing, as the great tribulation begins. Matthew 24:15.

Jesus returns on day 2520 of the 7 years, to end the great tribulation, and to remove the things on the temple mount - that will have made it desolate from worship of the One True God. Namely, the beast, the false prophet, the statue image incarnated by Satan.