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The Antichrist conundrum

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Douggg, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    It is a universal practice for them within Christianity and outside of Christianity to refer to the arch villain of the end times as "the Antichrist".

    Which also there is equally divided argument whether the person is a gentile or a Jew.

    The conundrum of the Antichrist.

    So which is it, Jew or gentile? And why?
     
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    Jew. That's the only way Israel would think to make him their king. Which would be the ultimate nemesistic provocation in the sight of God. Anti, as prefix, means "in place of"
     
  3. jgr

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    No conundrum for those who understand origins. A futurized antichrist was the creation of the Jesuit Francisco Ribera, who was commissioned during the Protestant Reformation to produce a deception countering the foundational Reformation teaching that the apostate papacy was the dominant antichrist of its era.

    Ribera produced In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarii, which espoused the futurized antichrist.

    It has been overwhelmingly successful in deceiving proponents of futurism since its incorporation into the dispensational dogma of John Nelson Darby in the 19th century.
     
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  4. Original Happy Camper

    Original Happy Camper One of GODS Children I am a historicist Supporter

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    satan always counterfeits the truth and I am waiting for somebody to show me the counterfeit of futurism that uplifts satan.

    Inserting satan in place of Jesus Christ in the 70 week prophecy is not biblical and is a teaching of the RCC

    IMHO futurism is a great deception that is leading folks away from the truth.

    I pray that those who are being deceived by this false teaching will have their eyes opened to the truth

    Matthew 7:13-14
    Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
     
  5. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Jew or gentile ?
     
  6. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    Neither ... it's corrupt religious systems united behind a government power ... with the religious power being led by a prominent religious man ... of whom satan put his powers behind. A great deception ... many will think the anti-chirst is Jesus and will worship this power. This is how satan attempts to get what he really wants .... and that is worship.

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    …8Again, the devil took Him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9“All this I will give You,” he said, “if You will fall down and worship me.” 10“Away from Me, Satan!” Jesus declared. “For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’”
     
  7. jgr

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    Like all other antichrists throughout history.
     
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  8. Timtofly

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    None of the above. It is not the obvious reasoning of all human theology in eschatological terms. It is found in Revelation 13. Yet no one will figure it out until it happens, at least that seems to be the trend. Think about it. Jesus was already the Messiah. Do we really need to figure out something that does not exist? To the Jews, Jesus is the Antichrist. When the Lamb shows up, they will realize their error of the last 1990 years. No need for an Antichrist at all. Just movie fiction. All those authors trying to figure it all out, will seem foolish when they realize, all they were doing, is trying to figure out some movie script that Hollywood had even rejected.
     
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