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The Antichrist: An Alien?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Achilles6129, Sep 24, 2009.

  1. Danoh

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    Its funny, Codger, I came to a Futurist view on my own, yet your "open mind" would right off conclude I learned it in my preteens or what have you.

    That is your one size fits all at work.

    Later, I found others who had come to a similar view - Mid Acts.

    While, to this day, whenever I study, I start over; wrestle with one text or another from scratch no matter what I have come to believe.

    Who are you to assert all Futurists have been spoonfed what your "open mind" has concluded they have all been spoonfed?

    Just think on that a moment.
     
  2. mxyzpt1k

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    (You've indicated there is an opportunity to increase the level of force ... that is mitigated with our nightly walks towards the "cleansing of Dan". I've advised them here and there, to use adversity ... park bench theory ... we do have the right to refuse medical attention in the usa, as long as we are competent enough to do so ... remember, satan does not want to glory god with the knowledge the antichrist reveals ... ... what evil there is against the antichrist, simply encourage satan to do it (satan thrives on resisting spiritual power, that is viewed as a snare) ... that is also a means of control ... satan has plenty of opportunity to bare false witness, use imprisonment falsely, or use the death penalty false, or attack the testimony of the antichrist falsely before the people ... yet there is always a reason why satan chooses to encourage everyone to remain blind ... what do you suppose that reason is? What the gospel does not value, does not have a right to exist, somethings exist today only because of the longevity of the gospel in its terms, now there is a season to put away that longevity)

    Scientists have been unable to demonstrate on any level that "Matter and Energy" can be either created or destroyed in this universe. The Process of Light is the manifestation of that truth. ... ... The gospel clearly states that God created Matter and Energy in the book of Genesis, yet after Star Wormwood was taken away from the universe in its glory - Which is called the Garden of Eden - Matter and Energy could not longer be created or destroyed - the Glory of Creation was hidden.

    The Big Bang Singularity is technically re-enacted through black holes, and their process of quantum entanglement is a multiple of infinity. ... ... ... Infinity by its nature is self sustaining ... ... ... Scientists claim the universe will eventually expand enough to become combustible and then it will destroy itself, and then after destruction it will be re-created ... ... ... If scientists cannot observe the creation of energy or matter, on the quantum level now, then they have formed an impossible conclusion with the expectation that the universe, at some point being based on the same "infinite quantum mechanical process" will ... eventually be able to create and destroy matter and energy in its maturity. This is obviously a tagged on theoretical conclusion. (the universe could expand infinitely as it stands with no ultimate end to its processes, the Gospel does not give this universe more value then the program it has ascribed to ascend the life it has produced according to the law).

    Another Universe must be created to bridge the "Spiritual Realm" and the "Barrier of Light". That is dimensions higher then the 4th Dimension of Light. String Theory does prove that "Light" can exhibit special behavior, but the human perception can perceive the "Spiritual Realm" (because it is higher then 4th), where as electronic equipment can only record the special reactions of "Light" that are produced. So where as the Kingdom of Heaven is revealed (or Benjamin) ... electronic equipment will only at best record Joseph. The supernatural phenomenon we observe readily recounted by people, are often recounted by "unfaithful" people. The say they did not see something complete, but later after a video is taken, they say they now see more clearly. They are baring false witness, they did not choose to accept a certain spiritual truth, but looked to the earth, to the "barrier of light", that is recounting the reaction. (Daniel 5:5 the people saw a hand, but the earth recounted that it was instead a candlestick or writing seen to simply appear).

    We are not close enough to the source ... We are not close enough to the Universe that must be created (Star Wormwood), to bridge the "Spiritual Realm 5th" and the "Light Barrier 4th". To observe the behavior of "Light" that equivalences itself to the "Spiritual Realm" ... Joseph or the "God Particle". .............. The Universe as a whole body has a much larger foot print then one relative portion of space ... ... ... because of this the behavior of "Light" is seen over a larger portion of the universe as mimicing behavior like "Joseph" (because of the design detail of this universe's relation of "energy and matter to light", and light to the "Spiritual Realm").

    When Star Wormwood reveals the "Temple Stones or Joseph", then Star Wormwood is close enough to this particular body of space, to be impactful on the "Barrier of Light". Because of this nature of behavior, we can only faithfully conclude that the machines will suddenly experience changes in behavior in the Quantum Exchanges of Infinity.

    Since Moses first saw the "Burning Bush", God revealed that "Star Wormwood" would be given to man, in the form of revealing "Joseph". Since King David from which Goliath was revealed, God revealed at that time that "Joseph" would be synonymous to the sons of man, to the Levites. Star Wormwood is there with the sons of man, enough to influence the behavior of "Light" to a point of impacting, energy and matter. However this is very small, but this is observable. ... .... .... .... Remember the Universe at large comes close to simulating Joseph, but the sons of man are given a portion of Joseph. The body of Isreal scoffs at this achievement, by perform ethnic cleasnings, and attributing their suicide as murder, in order to support their understanding of the nature of reality beyond what is being revealed, by the antichrist. (hundreds of people locally in the city of philadelphia and abroad, and millions of people worldwide are attributed to this behavior pattern, and it must continue until the threats of "Dan and Judah" are resolved ... ... ... you will on your own time, in the season, test these conclusions, but the behavior pattern must continue until the threats are resolved).

    The "Temple Stones", that are associated with the "Tower of Babel" came down after "Sodom and Gomorrah" was destroyed. When God found reason to give "Dan a Spiritual Death Sentence, to the end of time" ... ... ... God further furnished the face of man ... this is ofcourse after God revealed the Stars of Heaven to Abraham "or the Temple Stones", in order to as the ancients recount, create the civilizations that were built in a short period of time around 3000 B.C.

    The Earth is allowed to witness of the Gospel Program, and we will see evidence of this when the "Temple Stones" are revealed. The Antichrist is ordained to deal with the suicide program of "Dan and Judah", although he has the power to reveal certain truths about the universe, he will not cooperate willing to reprove certain errors in theologies among the scribes. There is a season for such and such an activities, they are not the primary concern of God, that is redeeming the souls of men for the inheritances ascribed to the gospel program. (we will have another nightly walk on monday ... Joseph is exercised in these discussions also, and this creates a public threat, but God only in certain instances will react to correct this behavior).

    The way light behaves around the Antichrist is altered to different degrees at different times, this is attributed to "Joseph", which is the way light behaves, on account of Star Wormwood. Since "Benjamin and Joseph" have been paired together in this way since David. Star Wormwood is another universe that is inside the Antichrist.

    Hundreds of people claim they have seen aliens or strange vehicles always around the antichrist, directly in his position or in the space above relative to him. We cannot confirm these truths directly, because we do not know who the Antichrist is. But we know, resolving the threat with humanity, cleasning the threat that Dan represents and that Judah represents to itself is the utmost priority in saving lives. Therefore we do know the body of believers has turned a blind eye to what is necessary to be done, because they worship in truth alongside the Antichrist. ... ... ... By all accounts if the Antichrist claims commercial aircraft have been knocked down because of certain levels of force, or the ebola virus has cleasned some portion of "Genetic Dan" as a demonstration of the antichrist's authority, etc. We have not viable reason to discount these conclusions, given certain levels of force.
     
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  3. LastSeven

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    My mind is officially blown. mxy, where do you get this stuff? You do realize none of this is biblical right? Have you noticed that you don't support any of your theories with scripture verses? That's because you're not getting this stuff from the Bible. Red flag!!!!
     
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    EXODUS 34:34 But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel [that] which he was commanded.
    EXODUS 34:35 And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.


    We have something voiced about "Benjamin and Joseph" ... Benjamin is God, and Joseph is the Covering. It states that in order for Joseph to be revealed in its full glory, Benjamin must be removed. That is why when Moses face Shone, the Vail was Removed. But when the Vail Came, the Glory was covered.

    GENESIS 43:14 And God Almighty give you mercy before the man, that he may send away your other brother, and Benjamin. If I be bereaved [of my children], I am bereaved.
    GENESIS 43:15 And the men took that present, and they took double money in their hand, and Benjamin; and rose up, and went down to Egypt, and stood before Joseph.


    When Benjamin is present, Joseph cannot be revealed to mankind. But when Benjamin departs, then Joseph is revealed before mankind. In otherwords, the "Two Witnesses" of revelations must be slain, in order to bring the Viel that Joseph represents, which is the "Three Days of Darkness" in revelations (The "Temple Stones" are apart of the Viel, its is "Star Wormwood's Ties to Joseph" that is the real value, this becomes apparent the further we go into the judgment, "Great Tribulation to End of Universe and Earth").

    The Gospel is giving a commandment that the Antichrist, which is Moses, will identify with Joseph at any point in time. So if people claim to have known the identity of the Antichrist, they will naturally observe otherworldly phenomenon, even aliens at all times, in the right perspective.
     
  5. Bible2

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    Yes (Ephesians 6:12).

    Under the Old Covenant, murder was forbidden (Deuteronomy 5:17), but killing in a war commanded by God was required (1 Samuel 15:3).

    But under the New Covenant, which Christians are under (Matthew 26:28, Jeremiah 31:31), Christians are commanded to never harm anyone, even in self-defense (Matthew 5:39, Matthew 26:52). They are to be as harmless as doves (Matthew 10:16c). For Christians are commanded to love even their enemies (Matthew 5:44), and this means they must do them no harm (Romans 13:10a, Matthew 7:12).

    It is the meek who will inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5, Psalms 37:11).

    Christians don't employ physical weapons or any other violence against people (2 Corinthians 10:3-5, Ephesians 6:12-18). Instead, Jesus at his first coming set the example for what believers are to do when they are physically attacked by people (1 Peter 2:19-23). They are to go meekly like sheep to the slaughter (Romans 8:36), just like Jesus did (Isaiah 53:7). Obedient believers don't fear death (Hebrews 2:15), and don't love their lives unto death (Revelation 12:11b), but hate their lives in this world, so that they might retain eternal life (John 12:25, Mark 8:34-38). For obedient believers know that death is no loss for them, but gain (Philippians 1:21), as it brings their still-conscious souls into heaven to be with Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:8), which is far better than remaining in this world (Philippians 1:23).

    During the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, believers (not in hiding) will have to face martyrdom with patience and faith to the end (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4, Matthew 24:9-13), just as believers have always had to spiritually overcome in the face of martyrdom (e.g. Revelation 2:10-11).

    Yes (John 18:36).

    John 18:36 means that Jesus' future, physical reign on the earth with the physically resurrected church (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29) won't be of this world in the sense that it won't come by worldly means, such as by the church fighting physically to establish it (2 Corinthians 10:3-4, Matthew 26:52, Matthew 5:39). Instead, it will come only by Jesus returning physically from heaven to establish it (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, Zechariah 14:3-21). Also, after the millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7-15), a new earth will be created and God's kingdom will continue forever on the new earth (Revelation 21:1 to 22:5).
     
  6. Bible2

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    Note that some books in the Bible contain prophecies of events which wouldn't occur for 3,000 to 4,000 years. For example, Ezekiel prophesied of the Gog/Magog event (Ezekiel chapters 38-39, Revelation 20:8-9) some 3,600 years before its (still future) occurrence. For Ezekiel gave that prophecy some 600 years before Jesus' first coming, but it won't be fulfilled until some 1,000 years after Jesus' (still future) 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:10). Also, God prophesied Jesus' spiritual defeat of Satan at the Crucifixion (Genesis 3:15, Hebrews 2:14) some 4,000 years before its occurrence. And Isaiah prophesied God creating a new heaven and earth (Isaiah 66:22, Revelation 21:1-8) some 3,700 years before its (still future) occurrence. For Isaiah gave that prophecy some 700 years before Jesus' first coming, but it won't be fulfilled until some 1,000 years after his 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 21:8).

    No.

    And with regard to Revelation, note that just as Jesus' 2nd coming in Revelation 19:7 to 20:3 has always been relevant to Christians despite the fact that it has never been fulfilled, but will be fulfilled almost entirely literally in our future, so the highly-detailed and chronological events of the preceding tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 to 18, and the subsequent millennium and other events in Revelation chapters 20 to 22, have always been relevant to Christians despite the fact that they have never been fulfilled, but will be fulfilled almost entirely literally in our future.

    To put it another way, the future fulfillment of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, before Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), should be relevant to every Christian regardless of whether or not he thinks that he will still be alive to go through it, just as, for example, the past fulfillment of Genesis chapters 1 to 11 should be relevant to every Christian regardless of him not being alive at that time to experience it. For all scripture regarding all times is profitable to all Christians in all times (2 Timothy 3:16).

    Also, the future fulfillment of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 should be especially relevant to every Christian alive today. For the main reason that the Bible gives clear warning ahead of time about everything that Christians alive at the time of the tribulation will have to face (Mark 13:23, Revelation chapters 6 to 18, Revelation 1:1, Revelation 22:16), before Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), is so that Christians can be better prepared mentally not to be blindsided (1 Peter 4:12-13) or deceived by anything that is coming (Matthew 24:4-5,23-25, Revelation 13:13-18, Revelation 19:20), and so they can be better prepared mentally to endure the future tribulation with patience and faith to the end (Matthew 24:9-13, Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6), and not commit apostasy during the tribulation (Isaiah 8:21-22, Matthew 24:9-13, Matthew 13:21), to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Hebrews 6:4-8, John 15:6; 2 Timothy 2:12).

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    On the other hand, Preterism (whether full or partial), as well as historicism (in its various modern forms), and pre-tribulation rapturism, symbolicism, and spiritualism, could all be animated by the same spirit of fear: that the church alive today throughout the world would otherwise have to physically suffer through the future, almost-entirely literal, worldwide tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. For these 5 views of preterism, historicism, pre-tribulation rapturism, symbolicism, and spiritualism, in their different ways, each gives a mistaken assurance to the church alive today that it won't have to physically suffer through that tribulation.

    Preterism says that the tribulation happened in 70 AD (or a few years before and including 70 AD). Historicism says that it happened over a long period in history (e.g. during the rise and height of the RCC's power in Europe during the Middle Ages and after, or during the rise and spread of Islam in the Middle East and elsewhere during the Middle Ages and after). Pre-tribulation rapturism says that Jesus will return and rapture the church into the 3rd heaven before the tribulation begins. Symbolicism says that the tribulation is only symbolic of theological themes which those in the church have always had to struggle with (e.g. Matthew 6:24), and is symbolic of only-local physical persecutions which some in the church have always had to face, and are still facing today in some places. And spiritualism says that the tribulation is only spiritual events which go on only within the hearts of individuals.

    But when the almost-entirely literal, worldwide tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 begins in our future, the shaky doctrinal wall which (in their different ways) these 5 views have each tried to build up between the church and the tribulation, will be completely shattered (Ezekiel 13:10-12) as the church worldwide begins to physically suffer through the tribulation (Matthew 24:9-31, Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6). These 5 views may have left some in the church unprepared mentally to undergo this physical suffering, to where these 5 views could even contribute to some in the church ultimately losing their salvation because of committing apostasy (Hebrews 6:4-8, John 15:6; 2 Timothy 2:12) during the tribulation, when they become "offended" that God is making them and their little ones physically suffer through it (Matthew 24:9-12, Matthew 13:21, Isaiah 8:21-22, Luke 8:13).

    Even though the church today throughout the world will have to physically suffer through the future tribulation, the church need not fear this (cf. 1 Peter 4:12-13, Revelation 2:10). For even though many in the church will suffer and die during that time (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-13), this will be to their gain, as it will bring their still-conscious souls into heaven to be with Jesus (Philippians 1:21,23; 2 Corinthians 5:8; see also 2 Corinthians 4:17-18; 2 Timothy 2:12), and it won't rob them of the blessed hope (Titus 2:13) of obtaining eternal life (Titus 1:2, Titus 3:7) in an immortal, physical resurrection body (Romans 8:23-25, Philippians 3:21, Luke 24:39) at Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), which will occur immediately after the future tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6).
     
  7. Bible2

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    Actually, Zechariah 14 is about Jesus' (never fulfilled) 2nd coming with all his saints (Zechariah 14:5b; 1 Thessalonians 3:13b), and about the subsequent millennium, when he will reign on the earth from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:8-21, Micah 4:1-4). Zechariah 14:3 refers to the 2nd-coming battle of Revelation 19:19-21. And Zechariah 14:4 shows that at his 2nd coming, Jesus will physically land on the Mount of Olives, just as at the end of his first coming, he physically ascended from the Mount of Olives. Acts 1:11-12 says that Jesus will return in like manner as he left.

    Before Jesus returns, at the very end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 the world's armies will gather together at a staging area at Armageddon (Revelation 16:14,16) (Har Megiddo, Mount Megiddo in northern Israel). They will then move south and pillage Jerusalem right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-5, Revelation 19:19-21). Jesus will then remain on the earth as King (Zechariah 14:9), and the unsaved people left alive on the earth (Matthew 24:40) will be forced to come up to Jerusalem and worship him annually (Zechariah 14:16-19). Jesus and the physically resurrected church will rule the unsaved survivors of the nations with a rod of iron during the millennium (Revelation 2:26-29, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 20:4-6).

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    While it is sometimes claimed that Zechariah 14 was fulfilled at Jesus' first coming, note that Jesus' first coming wasn't the day of the Lord (Zechariah 14:1), for that won't begin until his 2nd coming (1 Corinthians 1:7-8; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2). Also, Jesus' first coming didn't occur right after Jerusalem had been defeated by all nations gathered against it (Zechariah 14:2-5). Also, at his first coming, Jesus didn't fight the nations (Zechariah 14:3) and then land on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4). It will be at his 2nd coming that Jesus will fight the nations (Revelation 19:11-21) and then land on the Mount of Olives, just as he had ascended from the Mount of Olives at the end of his first coming (Acts 1:11-12).

    Also, at his first coming, Jesus didn't split the Mount of Olives in two (Zechariah 14:4), creating a valley through which the Jews in Jerusalem could flee from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:5) as Jesus waged war against all the nations of the world which had just pillaged Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:2-5). Also, at Jesus' first coming, he didn't come with all the saints (Zechariah 14:5b). That will happen only at his 2nd coming (1 Thessalonians 3:13b). Also, at Jesus' first coming, he didn't make it so that Jerusalem was light at night (Zechariah 14:6-7). And he didn't make water flow out from Jerusalem in summer and winter, half of the water flowing toward the Dead Sea and the other half toward the Mediterranean (Zechariah 14:8). And he didn't make himself King over the earth (Zechariah 14:9). And he didn't flatten the topography for miles around Jerusalem and raise its elevation (Zechariah 14:10). And he didn't make it so that Jerusalem wouldn't be destroyed (Zechariah 14:11). And he didn't send an amazingly rapid, flesh-eating plague against the armies which had just pillaged Jerusalem, so that their flesh consumed away while they stood on their feet (Zechariah 14:12).

    Also, at his first coming, Jesus didn't cause the armies which had just pillaged Jerusalem to fight against each other (Zechariah 14:13). And he didn't make Judah fight at Jerusalem and win for itself the wealth of all the nations surrounding it (Zechariah 14:14). And he didn't make the transportation animals used by the armies which had just pillaged Jerusalem suffer the horrible flesh-eating plague (Zechariah 14:15,12). And unsaved survivors of all nations which had just pillaged Jerusalem didn't come to Jerusalem annually at the feast of tabernacles to worship Jesus (Zechariah 14:16). And he didn't send drought and plague against the nations which refused to come to Jerusalem to worship him (Zechariah 14:17-19).

    Also, at his first coming, Jesus didn't make Jerusalem so holy that even the bells on the horses in Jerusalem had the words "Holiness Unto The Lord" engraved on them (Zechariah 14:20). And he didn't make it so that the animal-sacrifice boiling pots in the temple in Jerusalem became as holy as the bowls before the altar (Zechariah 14:20). And didn't make it so that every pot in Jerusalem and Judah became holiness to the Lord (Zechariah 14:21). Instead, at his first coming, Jesus left unbelieving Jerusalem spiritually desolate (Luke 13:35). Also, at his first coming, Jesus didn't make it so that there would be no more Canaanites in the temple in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:21).
     
  8. mxyzpt1k

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    The "Shroud of Turin" is dated to the 1300s, most scholars place it within a series of dates around this time. Evidence for the "Shroud of Turin" originating from alien contact?

    The word Empyrean which means "Fire from the Sky", was first used in the 1300s, during a play called the "Divine Comedy", in which they virtually confess to receiving the "Shroud of Turin", from the aliens.

    The "Shroud of Turin" states that "Dan must be Slain", before the Blessing can be revealed ... you have stated the "Meek inherit the Earth, when the Darkness of Dan is removed", to paraphrase the quotation, lets revisit the gospel momentarily:

    DANIEL 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and it had ten horns.
    ISAIAH 38:13 I reckoned till morning, [that], as a lion, so will he break all my bones: from day [even] to night wilt thou make an end of me.

    DEUTERONOMY 33:22 And of Dan he said, Dan [is] a lion's whelp: he shall leap from Bashan.

    When the "Great Tribulation" begins, that is when the "Temple Stones" are revealed. A reference to the 4th Beast of Daniel, then the "Lion of Dan" must also be cleasned ... "Genetic Dan". Isaiah 38:13 says that "Genetic Dan", is not "Meek" ... and therefore it is not allowed to inherit the earth. It is not allowed gather together during the "Great Tribulation" ... it must be deceased soon. Most people believe that the gospel calls for the death of "Joseph", because the Antichrist is evil, however, the Gospel only calls for the immediate death of "Dan", the real Antichrist is holy. (Genetic Dan involuntary attacks people to a degree around "Joseph", because they cannot suppress their spirituality as much as they prefer, we've developed a solution to mitigate the burden of their living, by focusing their attention on an individual).
     
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    Is the "antichrist" an alien from outer space? You don't think that this is absurd? In case you missed it I am saying that the Antichrist is not an alien because in the first place there IS NO SUCH SINGLE ENTITY AS AN ANTICHRIST. I offered you Futurists a way to clear this all up and you have to ignore it because you cannot, cannot, go through Johns epistles word for word and line for line and show that this "Antichristos" is a single entity, and you cannot show that it is anyone that was originally outside of the Church. Nor can you link this Antichristos to the 20th or later century. Nor can you link this term to any other boogeymen in scripture - except by sheer speculation. There is no connection whatsoever between "The Beast;" 'The Son of Perdition" (the man of sin.) There is no scriptural support - just plain old eisegetical speculation and supposition. This is a good example of the Futurist Bible studies where they try to connect similar sounding phrases, words, or passages together. No there is no connection between the TEN virgins and the TEN kings (without a Kingdom) of Revelation.

    So not having any defense of your doctrines your only defense becomes personal insults. I'm waiting for your word for word explanation of Johns use of the term Antichristos. I went over this once before.
     
  10. LastSeven

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    First of all, thanks for keeping this post relatively short (at least by your standards). I think this is the first time I've read an entire post by you. (you might want to keep that in mind for your future posts).

    Anyway, you had me until you said "During the future tribulation", because there is no reason to believe that all those verses you quote pertain to our future, or at least exclusively.

    But you really got me when you said "Jesus' future physical reign on earth" because not only is that not mentioned in the Bible, but is in fact in direct contradiction to the Bible. Jesus will not reign physically on the earth. That's a fact.
     
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    I didn't say I was right. I'm open - minded and reasonable enough to admit I'm not all - knowing or higher than anyone else.
    And does that make you right, because someone else could be wrong? No, it does not. I'm sorry -- but it doesn't.

    All I'm saying is, keep an open mind. Honestly, I think some of the things within our future physical or spiritual, we cannot begin to fathom within our age. Just like a person in the 1500's couldn't fathom a computer, or a television.

    Nothing is impossible. That's the REALITY of it!

    This remark along with a few others was just uncalled for.

    Open your mind. Understand that not everyone is going to agree with you. This goes for anyone.

    Maybe the AC is some sort of deceiving being, or maybe he's not. I'm not certain what he will be, and neither are you.

    And just because I call whatever this thing will be an Anti Christ, doesn't mean that's what it will be labeled. It's the only word we can use within this time to foretell his existence within our world.

    You could call it a beast I suppose.

    I see irritation within your words. I'm not arguing, nor am I saying you're wrong or right. Because honestly, I don't know -- just like you don't either for sure.

    Nothing wrong with keeping an open mind about anything. PERIOD.

    Have a nice day, and may God bless you!
     
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    Mind you, it doesn't matter if Aliens really exist or not. Satan and his Demons could fool people into thinking they could.

    I don't strictly believe in Aliens, because what I think they are, are demons. And yes, whether you want to believe it or not -- people have encountered them. I know this for a fact myself.

    Whether or not you want to believe or disbelieve it -- it is what it is.

    Again, I never said I actually believed they were from another planet. They (The demons) can make people believe that using their deception, in order to make Christ look
    obsolete and nonexistent.
     
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    It may not be strictly Anti Christ as its label. Anyone can label anything with a word, but it's still a fact, the world will be deceived. And by who? Satan.

    You can call it anything you desire, but it's deceiving whatever it will be. I think what people are aware of, is that Satan deceives people, and using Aliens is just one way out of many.

    If he ever does disguise himself as an Alien, and comes to earth.... it would be very deceiving, and yes -- even the elect would be fooled. People keep an open mind, that this is a possibility.

    It would throw people off from their path to Jesus, because they would think he is nonexistent. Because this "Alien" (Demon) would tell people that there is no Jesus, or anything else.

    There's many Christians that believe that Aliens are Demons, and I believe they're correct. I'm not saying with 100% certainty they are, but what else could they be?

    That is, if these grays, reptilians, etc are up there.

    Nothing wrong with speculating, keeping an open mind.
     
  14. mxyzpt1k

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    (representation of Aleister Crowley's, Man in Room 13)

    HEBREWS 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
    HEBREWS 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
    HEBREWS 7:14 For [it is] evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

    The Tribe of Aaron (Aaron is currently a Priesthood Tribe), was presented the Ark by Moses to Bless the Church. Now the Tribe of Aaron does not give attendance at the Altar in Revelations, when God calls the Church, "forsaken, and God calls for Aaron's Repentance". Aaron was tasked to keep the "10 Virgins", in this way Aaron is accused of stealing "10 Tribes".

    (Rev. 5:5 - Hebrews 7:14) What Tribe redeems Judah, or is called the "Lion of Judah"? The answer is Joseph (Joseph is not a Priesthood Tribe), Moses is set to reign through Joseph, and he reclaims the "10 Lost Tribes from Judah, and gives them to Joseph" ... ... Moses is not God himself, and Moses is not Joseph himself, Moses is the "10 Kings without a Kingdom", because he is given the "stolen 10 Tribes", Aaron convicted of sin after Judah had taken them.

    Moses is set as the Head of the Priesthood, and the Head of the Tribes ... the division that began with Aaron, when Aaron recieved the title "Head of the Priesthood, when Christ baptized Peter, and also when Thomas put his Finger into Christ's side ... ... this Title is given to Moses in order to judge Aaron for its Repentance. ... ... Aleister Crowley's man of Hebrews 7:13 is Aaron, the Man, he imagined the Antichrist would stripe of his Separatist Inheritance*, and convict of death, as a result of their sin, at the end of time.

    Christ lets the Antichrist finish the final conviction of Aaron, the commandment to repent in revelations has Aaron in view. (The Beast Moses, and the False Prophet Aaron, are united under this pretense in Rev. 19:20). Lets go back to John 18:36 for a moment:

    JOHN 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
    JOHN 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

    Jesus did not fight, further more Jesus commanded the Apostles not to pick up the sword, and God further convicted Aaron of sin. With which Aaron has become the spiritual "Wife of the Tribe of Dan, in wickedness". Aaron is not as suicidal as "Dan", but they are not far off either.

    Aleister Crowley, in his vision of the Temple Mound called "Lam", we discussed previously. See the Antichrist appointed as an earthly King, before Aaron's conviction/repentance is completed. God essentially, takes the "10 Lost Tribes from Aaron", instead of Judah in this case. Because the Antichrist is still living in a body of flesh. Because we know the Antichrist is a faithful individual, that desires to be true to the spirit of the gospel. We know he would never, naturally seek to upset Aaron's relation with God. We know also the Antichrist also encourages people to kill themselves based on the force they use, as an alternative to greater crimes to humanity, as they are mitigated globally in some way or another, the people that must be cleansed from the judgment program.

    Now with that said, it follows that enough force, can be used against the Antichrist to place him in the position of obtaining authority now ... ... he will likely cleanse the Genetic Dan in the usa in advance, as this is the Heart of Judah for its migration program, and he will cleanse china in advance, as this is the heart of manasseh for their migration program also during the great tribulation. Then he will do nothing else, unless he is further convinced advanced cleansing is necessary to keep the peace until the cleansing is completed. Otherwise he has program that is not only faithful by successful in cleasning Dan, more so then the gospel desires as a result of the force that is exercised continually and repeatedly, until the threat is dissolved. Therefore as we've stated "Lam is the Alternative Way", Shane Montgomery was a warning, now with that said, God will only act with the force that constitutes Aaron's attempt to overthrow the Gospel the Antichrist is given. So they are running out of mercy, with that said I will use the phrase "sniper rifle", another time, so that it is several times already, and if you do not cooperate accordingly with the level of force that you are using in what constitutes Aaron, the antichrist could be given authority momentarily.
     
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    Note that any person is an antichrist who denies that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ (1 John 2:22), or who denies that Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (1 John 2:22b), or who denies that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). The spirit of antichrist which will animate the future Antichrist has been working since the 1st century AD (1 John 4:3; 2 Thessalonians 2:7a), animating many antichrists since that time (2 John 1:7).

    Also, note that the existence of many antichrists (1 John 2:18) doesn't contradict that there will be an individual man (2 Thessalonians 2:3,4,9, Revelation 13:4-18) who is commonly called the Antichrist, just as on the side of good, the existence of many sons of God (John 1:12) doesn't contradict that there is an individual man (Jesus Christ of Nazareth) who is the Son of God (John 20:31).

    Also, the idea of the individual-man Antichrist doesn't have to be explicitly referred to in scripture as "the Antichrist" in order for it to be true and supported by scripture, just as, for example, the idea of the Trinity doesn't have to be explicitly referred to in scripture as "the Trinity" in order for it to be true and supported by scripture (e.g. Matthew 28:19, John 1:1,14, Acts 5:3-4).

    The man commonly called the Antichrist will be the fulfillment of the individual "man of sin" (2 Thessalonians 2:3) who will sit (at least one time) in a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). He will fulfill the individual "man" aspect of the "beast" who will come (Revelation 13:18) and bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and himself (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9). He will rule the earth for 3.5 literal years (Revelation 13:5-10, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7), and will have a miracle-working False Prophet (Revelation 19:20, Revelation 16:13), who by amazing, Satanic miracles (2 Thessalonians 2:9b), such as calling fire down from heaven (Revelation 13:13), will deceive the world into worshipping a speaking (possibly an android) image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15), and receiving a mark of the Antichrist's name or gematrial name-number (666) on their right hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16-18). The Antichrist and his False Prophet will ultimately be cast into the lake of fire at Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 19:20), while at that time Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-3). None of these things has happened yet.

    The idea of a future, individual-man Antichrist was correctly recognized in the scriptures by the church from early on. Irenaeus (born c. 140 AD) used the term: "speaking of Antichrist, [Paul] says, 'who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped'" (Against Heresies 3:6:5; 2 Thessalonians 2:4); "...by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God" (Against Heresies 5:25:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:8); "...when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at Jerusalem" (Against Heresies 5:30:4b; Revelation 13:5; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7); "...the number of the name of the beast ... the name of Antichrist" (Against Heresies 5:30:1; Revelation 13:17c-18).

    The gematrial numerical values of the letters in the Antichrist's personal name will add up to six hundred and sixty-six (Revelation 13:17c-18).
     
  16. Bible2

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    Note that Jesus will physically reign on the earth during the 1,000 years of Revelation 20:2-6. For the 1,000 years of Revelation 20:2-6 will begin after his 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), when he will physically land on the earth and rule it from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4-21). And because Jesus will reign physically on the earth during the 1,000 years, so will the physically resurrected church, for the physically resurrected church will reign with Jesus during the 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6). And so in Revelation 5:10, the reference to the church reigning in the future "on the earth" includes the 1,000 years. Also, in Revelation 2:26-29, the reigning of the church physically over the nations can refer to the 1,000 years. There is no reason to exclude the 1,000 years from Revelation 5:10 or Revelation 2:26-29, just as there is no reason to exclude the earth from Revelation 20:4-6.

    Also, the church will reign forever on the new earth. For the church will reign forever in New Jerusalem (Revelation 22:5, Revelation 21:10 to 22:5), which will descend from heaven to a new earth (Revelation 21:1-3, Revelation 21:10) sometime after the future millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7 to 21:3).
     
  17. n2thelight

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    satan himself is the anti christ,the man of sin as well as the son of perdition...satan comes pretending to be Christ...satan goes by many names ,the above are just a few,below are a few more

    Names of Satan

    The Bible calls Satan by many different names. Each name has a slightly different meaning. The many other names for Satan give a fuller picture of who Satan is and what he does. There are more names for Satan in the Bible than for anyone else except Jesus Christ.
    Abaddon

    Hebrew name for Satan meaning “Destruction”. “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11
    Accuser

    “Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, ‘Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.’” Revelation 12:10
    Adversary

    “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8
    Angel of light

    “And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.” 2 Corinthians 11:14
    Angel of the bottomless pit

    “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11
    Anointed covering cherub

    "You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones." Ezekiel 28:14
    Antichrist

    “And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” 1 John 4:3
    Apollyon

    Greek name for Satan meaning “Destroyer”. “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11
    Beast

    “9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, ‘If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.’” Revelation 14:9,10 Who is the beast?
    Beelzebub

    “Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, ‘This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.’” Matthew 12:24
    Belial

    “And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?” 2 Corinthians 6:15
    Deceiver

    “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9
    Devil

    “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.” 1 John 3:8
    Dragon

    “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9
    Enemy

    “The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.” Matthew 13:39
    Evil one

    “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.” John 17:15
    Father of lies

    “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44
    God of this age

    “Whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.” 2 Corinthians 4:4
    King of Babylon

    “That you will take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say: ‘How the oppressor has ceased, The golden city ceased!’” Isaiah 14:4
    King of the bottomless pit

    “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.” Revelation 9:11
    King of Tyre

    "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "You were the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.”’” Ezekiel 28:12
    Lawless one

    “8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10
    Leviathan

    “In that day the LORD with His severe sword, great and strong,
    Will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,
    Leviathan that twisted serpent;
    And He will slay the reptile that is in the sea.” Isaiah 27:1
    Liar

    “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44
    Little horn

    “ 9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land. 10 And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. 11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.” Daniel 8:9-11
    Lucifer

    "12 How you are fallen from heaven,
    O Lucifer, son of the morning!
    How you are cut down to the ground,
    You who weakened the nations!
    13 For you have said in your heart:
    'I will ascend into heaven,
    I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
    I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
    On the farthest sides of the north;
    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
    I will be like the Most High.'” Isaiah 14:12-14
    Man of sin

    “3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4
    Murderer

    “44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44
    Power of darkness

    “13 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, 14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.” Colossians 1:13, 14
    Prince of the power of the air

    “1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience.” Ephesians 2:1,2
    Roaring lion

    “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8
    Rulers of the darkness

    “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12
    Ruler of demons

    “But some of them said, ‘He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.’” Luke 11:15
    Ruler of this world

    “31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” John 12:31,32
    Satan

    “And He was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan, and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to Him.” Mark 1:13
    Serpent of old

    “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:9
    Son of perdition

    “3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4
    Star

    “Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.” Revelation 9:1
    Tempter

    “Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, ‘If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.’” Matthew 4:3
    Thief

    “The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” John 10:10
    Wicked one

    “Above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.” Ephesians 6:16
    This list of names for Satan has been taken from the New King James Version of the Bible.
    There may be other names for Satan in the Bible. Please send me an email if you know of a name for Satan that I have missed.
    Very soon Satan will leave the spirit world that he has lived in for thousands of years. He will become visible to us and will claim that he is God. The Bible calls him the beast.
     
  18. mxyzpt1k

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    Antichrist Identified - Time Traveller
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    The Antichrist does not have to reclaim Jerusalem, on the sole basis that "Genetic Dan", has no right to live there, or to live in a way that challenges the gospel in this respect at all. And the Antichrist does not have to lead the nations directly during the "Great Tribulation". ... ... The Holy Spirit has corrected the information this video originally produced, that is it taught the Antichrist would reclaim Jerusalem, in the space ship Jesus implanted in the Temple Mount. The Antichrist has found fault in the judgment program, God and the prophets cohort in the Gospel given to mankind. In which it is an unacceptable amount of cruelty to reveal the glory of the Antichrist while the "Tribe of Dan" is living in any capacity in the Planet Earth, which this is resolved when the Great Tribulation begins. And it is also an unacceptable level of cruelty to reveal the Glory of the Antichrist during the "Great Tribulation", until the war with Judah is resolved. However in this instance, we can look to the Antichrist and Roswell, which was preplanned, as well as the Temple Stones revealed over the City of Philadelphia. Whatever level of force that is used against the Antichrist, he will only follow this program. He has the right to refuse "Kingship" until the 150 Days begins, in which he will return with with power and glory.

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    (Image from the very old Chauvet in Ardèche Cave 30,000 Years old "Jesus and Joseph 30 years old Luke 3:23)

    The Zebra has the largest Teeth, therefore it is the greatest beast. Its teeth are painted on its body, so it is spiritual ... therefore it is an animal that does not have to war with the other beasts in order to have dominion in the earth. The Zebra is seen in the center of this "M", which we've seen can represent a "Tearing in Dimensional Space", to a lesser degree this is acted out in the designs of the "Venus Transit". Also, I want to thank the people involved with this study in the behavior of the Antichrist's Nightly Walks in this video youtube.***/watch?v=dY63txsoVBw ... ... Some of the truth God gives the Antichrist to declare or to choose to declare can impact millions of lives, and the entire future of mankind in the New Universe ... ... so it would generally require a certain level of force, equivalent to murder, the entire human race at all points in this activity is held accountable to the gospel in this respect. But I do not encourage these kinds of studies, we've talked just about whatever there is to declare.


    The Da Vinci Code, is one of the subjects, I've not been very vocal about. In this context Satan appears in the image of the Antichrist, so yes for this reason God gives Satan a name almost equivalent to the Antichrist. ... ... ... As you know God has prevented mankind from killing the Antichrist by any means ... God extends this relationship to satan in a limited sense, when Satan is adhering to the truth the Antichrist is providing. ... ... ... On a personal level, the Antichrist encourages secrecy in relation to man for public safety and to protect the potential. God will act in certain circumstances to remove the threat immediately ... ... ... almost all forms of human life come under immediate fire and are extended some level of protection when it comes to the truth of the antichrist. People don't openly acknowledge the Antichrist, because he has encouraged them not to, and they understand the necessity of this truth based in part on their own dealings.
     
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  19. Straightshot

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    The future "antichrist" is not human, but a fallen angel like Satan who will manifest in the human little horn of Daniel's visions

    He once roamed the Middle East ruling over human kingdoms there and is now currently in the abyss soon to be released to finish his assignment set out by Satan
     
  20. LastSeven

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    Are you seriously saying that Jesus implanted a space ship in the Temple Mount?
     
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