Hi Just the Facts,
Boy, was that ever big! It gave me good oppurtunity to look for where it said it was the 'worst' or the 'longest' or the 'most killed' and it isn't there. It still says the same thing as when I first read it 40 years ago. ...something about it hasn't happened before in history and never will again.
Thru out this thread I have said to you that the scripture will weed out the errors.
Like here:
This is where you insist it must be the worst of something. Let's just let the scripture sort that out for us. Because it will, if it is given the chance.
I said this too:
There it is, properly recorded....... and I say it was that generation Jesus was talking to. Let's continue on and see where the scripture leads us.
I said this to start with:
Don't worry about it, the truth comes out as we go thru the verses. Whichever one of us is blowing smoke WILL be exposed, it is just a matter of time. One of us will come up against the ultimate conflict of our very own words contradicting each other and the bible. It never fails unless one of us backs out and runs and hides..........or the thread gets shut down.
So we have Just the Facts saying:
..some future generation sees the great tribulation...I say it was the one Jesus was talking to.
...You say the gospel wasn't preached to the whoever, so the 'end' can't come yet. Paul said the gospel was preached to every creature under heaven.
...you say the earth and Heaven physical burn up when the 'end' comes. I say it spiritually 'burns' up at the 'end' talked about in Matthew 24, I say it physically burns up at a day and an hour that only the Father knows of...like a thief in the night.( That's a whole different thread I'd think)
....you said that Christians die in the great tribulation, I say they don't...I'm sure a few die, but they are not the target of the wrath of God...That too, is another thread and I already started it , both here and on unorthodox theology. Please jump in.
You see if the 'end' is in the first century somehow, and that is what we are trying to determine, then you have some serious misconceptions of biblical reality. If the end is 'tommorrow, them I have the serious mess. As one poster so aptly put it, " if I am not correct, then I am wrong"...you just cannot argue with logic like that, it is rock solid.
So Just the Facts, if you want to quit circling you have total control over it.....quit dodging and get dealin'
I'll start with easy ones.
You said the generation is the one that sees the great tribulation happen.
Great! Matthew records a question asked of Jesus as:
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the
end of the world?
26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the
end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
DEAL WITH IT, JTF,............. OR DO WHAT YOU DO BEST!!!!!!
Justme
