The anointing of the Holy Spirit vs. similar experiences in other religions

[Andrewn]

The following is a new thread in a different forum:

The anointing of the Holy Spirit vs. similar experiences in other religions

I wonder what the Orthodox view is and how the described experiences relate to experiences of the Orthodox saints.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The following is a new thread in a different forum:

The anointing of the Holy Spirit vs. similar experiences in other religions

I wonder what the Orthodox view is and how the described experiences relate to experiences of the Orthodox saints.

we would agree with the point that God can inspire whomever He wants for His purposes. plus the initial question gives a very materialistic and carnal experience. the Spirit takes us beyond that.

 

[ArmyMatt]

plus, the post speaks of visualizing the channels or whatever. visualization is a red flag since anything we can visualize is a creation of our mind and not God since He is uncreated.

 

[Andrewn]

plus, the post speaks of visualizing the channels or whatever. visualization is a red flag since anything we can visualize is a creation of our mind and not God since He is uncreated.

The Buddhist meditation described in the other thread involves visualization of a fiery short stroke AH syllable on the navel. Other oriental meditations visualize a rose or candlelight. I don't know if the RC meditation on the heart of Christ falls in the same category.

In the Philokalia, I believe, saints warn against all visualizations. Then there are the experiences of Pentecostals who feel a flow of oil. I remember hearing about some who laugh uncontrollably or bark like dogs!

I appreciate your comments.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The Buddhist meditation described in the other thread involves visualization of a fiery short stroke AH syllable on the navel. Other oriental meditations visualize a rose or candlelight. I don't know if the RC meditation on the heart of Christ falls in the same category.

In the Philokalia, I believe, saints warn against all visualizations. Then there are the experiences of Pentecostals who feel a flow of oil. I remember hearing about some who laugh uncontrollably or bark like dogs!

I appreciate your comments.

yeah. if we focus on anything sensual, we open ourselves up to demonic or psychological deception (or both).

 

[ArmyMatt]

I remember hearing about some who laugh uncontrollably or bark like dogs!

you should check out the videos of the Toronto Blessing