Tennessee legislature passes permitless handgun carry bill

[Kentonio]

Lol, you are a dreamer aren't you?

Sure, if by 'dreamer' you mean something who actually understands the principles of a justice system.

 

[98cwitr]

Its much much more complex than that.

Agreed, so complex in fact simply screaming for "more gun control" will do nothing to actually fix the real root causes of what drives a person to be violent in the first place. That effort isn't even being approached or attempted (on the left or the right). Why?

 

[Speedwell]

Agreed, so complex in fact simply screaming for "more gun control" will do nothing to actually fix the real root causes of what drives a person to be violent in the first place. That effort isn't even being approached or attempted (on the left or the right). Why?

Correct. And if you characterize all proposals for reducing gun crime as "simply screaming for more gun control" it makes it easier to brush them off.

 

[VirOptimus]

Agreed, so complex in fact simply screaming for "more gun control" will do nothing to actually fix the real root causes of what drives a person to be violent in the first place. That effort isn't even being approached or attempted (on the left or the right). Why?

One should do both.

Gun control and try to combat the socio-economic factors that contribute to violent crimes.

 

[98cwitr]

One should do both.

Gun control and try to combat the socio-economic factors that contribute to violent crimes.

Gun control only hurts the law-abiding. Do you only want criminals and cops to have guns?

 

[Speedwell]

Gun control only hurts the law-abiding. Do you only want criminals and cops to have guns?

How does "gun control" only hurt the law-biding? Let's say we pass a law imposing an X year minimum mandatory sentence for possession of an unregistered handgun. How, specifically, will that only hurt the law-abiding?

 

[renniks]

Sure, if by 'dreamer' you mean something who actually understands the principles of a justice system.

So, mass shooters actually care about people and really don't want to break any laws. Makes perfect sense.

 

[renniks]

Thats because you are here to preach, not debate.

No it's because I don't believe everything I read on the internet.

 

[Speedwell]

So, mass shooters actually care about people and really don't want to break any laws. Makes perfect sense.

What a weird idea. No wonder it's so hard to get any sense out of 2A advocates.

 

[renniks]

What a weird idea. No wonder it's so hard to get any sense out of 2A advocates.

Um, Yeah, that was sarcasm, I was not saying mass shooters care about people.

 

[98cwitr]

How does "gun control" only hurt the law-biding? Let's say we pass a law imposing an X year minimum mandatory sentence for possession of an unregistered handgun. How, specifically, will that only hurt the law-abiding?

Simple possession infringes on a person's 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms (including handguns); now, if they commit a crime with it and you want to throw the book at them, I'll join you there.

Because only the law abiding follow gun laws. Register the people, not the gun.

 

[renniks]

How does "gun control" only hurt the law-biding? Let's say we pass a law imposing an X year minimum mandatory sentence for possession of an unregistered handgun. How, specifically, will that only hurt the law-abiding?

The Constitution guarantees our right to bear arms. Registering guns is an infringement on that right.

 

[VirOptimus]

Gun control only hurts the law-abiding. Do you only want criminals and cops to have guns?

Heh, thats the talking point yes.

Its bull.

 

[VirOptimus]

No it's because I don't believe everything I read on the internet.

Maybe you should learn to understand what you read too.

 

[98cwitr]

Heh, thats the talking point yes.

Its bull.

In an honest question, seeking an honest answer.

 

[renniks]

Maybe you should learn to understand what you read too.

Maybe you should learn to debate without insulting constantly

 

[parousia70]

Really? Why would you believe that no criminal has a full auto?

Because I can’t name even one criminal who’s on any police or court record as having used a fully automatic weapon in the commission of a crime.

Can you?

If owning a fully automatic weapon is legal, which it is, and none have ever been used in the commission of any crime, how did we manage that?

How is it that only law abiding citizens own and use fully automatic firearms?

Seems to be an amazing feat, yet we’ve plainly accomplished it.

How?

 

[Speedwell]

The Constitution guarantees our right to bear arms. Registering guns is an infringement on that right.

Whether that is true or not, you said such a law would only hurt the law-abiding.

 

[Speedwell]

Simple possession infringes on a person's 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms (including handguns); now, if they commit a crime with it and you want to throw the book at them, I'll join you there.

Because only the law abiding follow gun laws. Register the people, not the gun.

Ah, but you claimed that any gun control laws would only hurt the law abiding. Here in Illinois, one must have a Firearms Owners ID card to own a gun. (Basically it's evidence of a background check by the State Police.) The gun itself is not registered, but if I'm found in possession a gun and don't have a FOID card I am subject to severe penalties. I want you to explain to me how that gun control law only hurts the law-abiding.

 

[VirOptimus]

In an honest question, seeking an honest answer.

No its not.