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Telekinetics in the Bible and Today

Discussion in 'Spiritual Gifts' started by mindlight, May 25, 2019.

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  1. mindlight

    mindlight See in the dark Supporter

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    Jesus walked on water and invited Peter to do likewise. Elisha made an axe head float and Jesus flew to heaven at the Ascension. Samson was able to move the pillars in temple to bring its roof crashing down on peoples heads. Obviously the focus of these giftings is God and faith. There are strong traditions that Bartholomew is credited with miracles that made things lighter or heavier to carry.

    1) Are these sorts of power gifts available today?
    2) Does anyone have any modern examples of these?
     
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  2. timewerx

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    I have a unique manifestation of this gift. It's weak the entire time but seems growing in power recently and I'm not sure the reason why. I'm also not sure how I came to having this gift.

    Before anyone tries to report this post, I'd like to make it clear, I had this gift since birth, I just can't explain why. A Christian once thought I'm possessed tried to perform exocism on me but didn't work.

    The manifestation in me is different. I don't have full control of it.

    It only manifests in moments of very strong emotions.

    Two types of strong emotions will trigger different manifestation. Strong emotion caused by extreme anxiety will trigger wide area effect manifestation that can affect local weather, electrical grid, disrupt electrical devices, corrupt digital data, and geological effect.

    Strong emotion caused by defensive reaction on the otherhand will trigger much weaker, very local / short range effect. This one will sometimes move objects with some degree of control by me but it's very fleeting.

    I observed this unique gift is "timeless", unbounded by time for many things. At plain sight, I might have this gift since birth but it may be something I came to realization at present or in the future that caused me to have the gift.

    Seems like a useful gift but really annoying sometimes. If I'm having an "episode" all computers in the house, phone, including the car will experience failures simultaneously! Worse, it could knock out the power in the whole subdivision. Fortunately, the disruption is only temporary and hopefully without permanent damage.

    I would sometimes feel myself existing as digital data inside computers during an episode, very strange feeling. Just eternal darkness, white noise, and forces is all you can perceive.

    Unsure why, and why now?
     
  3. timewerx

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    I think three famous people in modern times have this gift. Since I have the gift, I can making out attributes that show a person possessed it - Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstein and unfortunately, Adolf Hitler. Vincent Van Gogh possibly had it too.

    Adolf Hilter and Vincent Van Gogh are both Christians and artist (ironically). Albert Einstein is a Jew who believes in God (made direct observation / possible scientific proof that God exists) but won't openly admit it (protecting his reputation as a celebrity scientist). I'm unsure of Nikola Tesla's religious beliefs.

    Then there's also mind control, kinda like you see in Star Wars. "The Force" is not entirely fiction. It just manifest differently in reality.
     
  4. FIRESTORM314

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    or maybe those power surges or extreme weather conditions are responsible for your strong emotions and affect your thinking. They affect you rather than you affect them. That would be the reasonable conclusion.;)
     
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    FIRESTORM314 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I knew a guy who believed he had the faith to walk on water - he run the bath and gave it a go :)
     
  6. mindlight

    mindlight See in the dark Supporter

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    I have tried on swimming pools but guess I just do not have it. But since Peter did it and Elisha sort of did the same thing with axe heads it is possible for those so endowed.
     
  7. FIRESTORM314

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    Well - they wear large hats in some traditional churches - so maybe they can do it ;)
     
  8. timewerx

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    Someone said the same thing to me before.

    Except, my extreme anxiety was triggered by something else like a real and pressing problem. I really don't understand how often Christians have the same degree of disbelief as unbelievers when it comes to unusual supernatural manifestations.
     
  9. FIRESTORM314

    FIRESTORM314 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am a Christian and I do believe in Spiritual manifestations.
    Some situations need looking at from several angles.

    I wouldn't call blowing electrical items a gift. You would have no control of such things at all.


    It may seem to you that over the years when these things happen you have noticed that you were in a high state of emotion. Repeated occurances have confirmed this. We used to have Light bulbs blowing in my mums house when I lived there. Guess what - it always seemed to happen when there was negative thinking going on. The day my dad died there was a bulb that went bang too. The next time it happened such and such thing happened. This is pretty much how superstition takes hold of a person - what did I do when I scored that winning goal - oh yes I was wearing my lucky charm.

    I was at my mums a few months ago and bang a bulb went - my stepfather had recently died. Then another, then another. So I tested the electrics - oh oh - earthing problems and high voltages. Probably faulty wiring too.

    You may want to seriously consider if you are succeptable to electrical energy or atmospheric changes. I'm not a specialist but I do notice every electrical item I buy these days as some sort of notice of it passing certain electrical radiation standards. Those wireless signals pass through your house into the back garden - that's through the walls matey. If I attached an Oscilloscope to you I bet I could pick up the electrical noise from the AC mains.

    Rather than a gift - you more likely have a weakness. Things would affect you more than they normally should. That's the more likely conclusion.
     
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  10. Lost4words

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    I have the power to hold up lamposts and trees with my right leg. Only happens when i want a wee though! :sorry:
     
  11. *LILAC

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    I don't doubt that there are some who can manifest supernatural gifts. What should be made fully aware is if it truly comes from God or from satan? Satan is always imitating/counterfeiting what God does so one must be careful of that, too.
     
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    All one has to do is ask, Does this Glorify The Lord, or does it glorify oneself.
     
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  13. FIRESTORM314

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    If you also have hallucinations or other visual disturbances then you may need to consider the possibility of a Neurological condition such as Epilepsy or alternative.

    Temporal Lobe Epilepsy is sometimes referred to as a "Seers Gift". It can give feelings of religious euphoria and there a plenty of weird symptoms to go with it. Have it checked out Timewerx.
     
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    From what I remember of the Story - Peter asked Jesus to command him to come to him on the water. That little addition may make all the difference.

    I do remember reading a story of a middle aged woman who was swimming in the sea. She was asked by the Spirit to swim out further. After some time she talked to God saying something like "Well - I'm along way out - how am I going to get back to shore". A few seconds later she found herself back at shore and her head was touching the sand. Strange but True?
     
  15. tturt

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    interesting story
     
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  16. Oscarr

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    I think we do have to be very careful. The examples in the Old Testament were not telekinesis at all. Telekinessis is sorcery. It involves a power from the person directed at an object to move it or affect it in some way. This is not what happened in the Old Testament. It was the direct application of the power of God through the faith of the person who looked to God to exercise His power.

    We don't see any evidence of any of this in the New Testament. And if it ain't there, then any form of telekinessis practiced by a professing Christian or anyone else is sorcery, and God is right against it.

    There are some in a particular Charismatic movement who believe they can control the weather through speaking to it. But the same person who taught this nonsense said they wouldn't fly if the weather is bad. Why not, if they can control the weather?

    And it if is true that these people can control the weather, where were they during the great hurricanes that beat up the Caribbean, and Florida? Also why were they not out there in tornado alley redirecting the tornadoes so they bypassed towns and cities? Wouldn't it be heartless and cruel, knowing that they could control the weather, and yet stood by and allowed people to die and their towns and cities destroyed?
     
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  17. Peach Springtime

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    Hon, if your with God ANYTHING can happen.
    Jus make sure your heart is in the right place before you run after these types o things.
    Ya don’t want the devil comin in an messin thing up.

    #JehovaJireh
     
  18. joshua 1 9

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    I had a job once where I use to deliver refrigerators all by myself. It all has to do with balance. When something is balanced right it has zero weight. Even my wife can move heavy bags of cement or sand if she can get them balanced on the hand cart. I have a friend that can move very heavy weight, like big rocks that most people can not budge. I would imagine he learned the trick on how to do that.
     
  19. Blade

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    Its clear MAN tries to put names on something he does not understand. God NEVER does anything with out a meaning. And if it is of from HIM.. you know it.. it always will bring Him glory..and one always uses it to give bring Him glory. God gives to all.. just and unjust. Some.. like radio.. turn to God.. others to some other station. And GOD will always back it up with His word. Any time I have to step out side the word.. there ya go..
     
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