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Teaching bibles view of sexual ethics could be hateful under new law

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by wisdomsophie, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Ignore it?
     
  2. RestoreTheJoy

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    Well, He does, for all believers - and in our laws throughout time - until we redefined it a few years ago. Many accept His definition over the redefinition (which is, of course, open to new redefinitions).
     
  3. RestoreTheJoy

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    Got a source of anyone teaching this? Or is this just speculation? I don't see it.
     
  4. Speedwell

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    Ben Carson comes to mind, or Jerry Falwell.
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    Where do you suppose all of the people who come to this forum preaching such things get the idea that LGBT is nothing but a wicked lifestyle choice? Is that what you believe?
     
  5. RestoreTheJoy

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    Ben Carson is a retired, renowned neurologist; he isn't "teaching" anyone. He apparently expressed an opinion one day that you don't like. He's permitted to do so (so far).

    Jerry Falwell is dead. He died THIRTEEN years ago.

    Neither of these are examples of preachers preaching this in the pulpit, which was the assertion.

    I'm sure there are preachers sometimes mentioning the biblical passages where sexual immorality is addressed of all kinds - adultery, fornication, and homosexuality.. Those scriptures are in there as God called His people to NOT engage in the practices of the unbelievers around them (not to say that people listened then - or now) but that is biblical truth.
     
  6. FireDragon76

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    That doesn't explain why your beliefs should be privileged in a pluralistic society where many people don't share them.
     
  7. rjs330

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    I certainly agree with this. Lumping all homosexuals into the "child predators" category is just plain dumb.

    And I also don't believe we should be "picking" on homosexuals. It seems like we enjoy too much to pick on certain sins. Yet God says all have sinned. He didn't say homosexuals are more lost than anyone else. No they are no more in need of a savior than your average person on the street.

    Sure its a wicked lifestyle if you are practicing it. But it's no more wicked than living an adulterous life or whatever.
     
  8. rjs330

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    Why in the world would we let kids decide what they want to be at such a young age. We dont let them decide where they want to live, what they want to be career wise, if they need to see a doctor, and in most cases what they want to eat. They don't get to decide if they need to brush their teeth. This is such a life altering decision and if taken to far, unreversible. Why in the world would we encourage such nonsense for children.
     
  9. rjs330

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    Whether or not homosexuality is a choice or not is up for debate in the Christian Church. It has been taught that it is always a choice.

    But I think times have changed and people are seeing a more nuanced approach to the subject. They recognize people generally don't just wake up one day and decide to change into homosexuality. That there are other factors at play. And a beer if reasons why someone would lean towards homosexuality.

    It doesn't change the fact that it is sinful. It doesn't matter "why" a person practices homosexuality. Just the fact that they do is sinful. The "why" is irrelevant to whether or not it is sin.
     
  10. SilverBear

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    Pastor Steven L. Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona
    Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas

    Considering they are not just making the above claims but are calling for the mass killings of millions of people i wont't post any sort of link to their serous, you can look these two up on your own
     
  11. RestoreTheJoy

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    Got a link so I can hear or read these claims?
     
  12. RestoreTheJoy

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    No, it is not "up for debate", as it is settled in scripture. There are biblical churches and there are those who have gone astray into their own teachings on this (and other things). So it really isn't a matter to be personally determined as to whether God's requirements as to sexual proscriptions applies to you or not, if you are a believer. Many things are your own decision - whether you feel convicted eating meat or not, whether you feel right about celebrating a holiday or not...that's up to you.

    Biblical sexual morality is not up to the believer. This has been violated since time immemorial and it is never right. I remember a discussion with one guy (not here) who insisted he was right with God to have a mistress because she was kind to his wife with Alzheimer's, so they all just lived together. He DESERVED this outlet for his frustration. One can make that case - and he did, vehemently - but one cannot make it scripturally. It is still adultery because he was sleeping with someone other than his wife.

    Because he REALLY wanted to do it, and it made him happy, God must be fine with it in his particular case, he insisted.
     
  13. RestoreTheJoy

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    It isn't. People have been doing whatever they wanted without legal consequence for decades. That doesn't mean that others have to agree that this is wise.

    But His way works; unfortunately society must go its own way, like the Roman Empire.
     
  14. SilverBear

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    did you even read what i posted?
     
  15. SilverBear

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    She was his concubine. God was always OK with concubines
     
  16. rjs330

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    God was never "okay" with it. It has always been wrong.
     
  17. SilverBear

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    Chapter and verse?
     
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    Has slavery always been wrong? Because he sure gave some very detailed instructions on how to go about doing that. If no, when did he change his mind about it?
     
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    Deut. 17:14-17 - "When you come to the land which the Lord your God is giving you, and possess it and dwell in it, and say, ‘I will set a king over me like all the nations that are around me,’ 15 you shall surely set a king over you whom the Lord your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. 16 But he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, for the Lord has said to you, ‘You shall not return that way again.’ 17 Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself."

    Acts 17:30-31 "The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, 31 because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”"
     
  20. SilverBear

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    it also says that the King shouldn't multiply horses. Does that mean the King is allowed only one horse?


    Yet David had 8 wives and at least 10 concubines 2 Samuel 20:3 and God himself said this wasn't a sin 1:Kings 15:5 and that God would have been happy to give David more wives and concubines.
     
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