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Teacher wins lawsuit over not using stude nts preferred pronouns.

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Courts found in favor of a teacher who sued over being fired for refusing to use a students preferred pronouns. He won a nice sized settlement and can go back to teaching.

The interesting part is the teacher did use the students preferred name. Which I have always said was just fine. I do that and would continue to do so as a compromise. The teacher stated he wouldn't use the pronouns because he considered that lying about a biological reality. This has good implications for the rest of us who don't wish to be forced to lie about reality.

 

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Courts found in favor of a teacher who sued over being fired for refusing to use a students preferred pronouns. He won a nice sized settlement and can go back to teaching.

The interesting part is the teacher did use the students preferred name. Which I have always said was just fine. I do that and would continue to do so as a compromise. The teacher stated he wouldn't use the pronouns because he considered that lying about a biological reality. This has good implications for the rest of us who don't wish to be forced to lie about reality.

This is good - but I wouldn't use the preferred name either.
 
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What is it then?
A fetus is a fetus. It's not a baby.

It's a stage of development. They are not he same stage of development.


But this is not the op topic so I won't comment further here. Sorry.
 
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A fetus is a fetus. It's not a baby.

It's a stage of development. They are not he same stage of development.


But this is not the op topic so I won't comment further here. Sorry.
You're right - it is not the topic - which is why it is so confusing that you were the one who randomly brought it up in this thread.

You should probably Edit or Delete your initial comment because it does not belong - it will attract more people to comment on it - and it makes no sense.
 
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Sounds like this person should probably teach at a school that caters to their personal beliefs.
Schools should not cater to anyone's personal beliefs.

Including confused children who have been brainwashed by their parents and/or social media into believing that they are something that they are not.
 
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Schools should not cater to anyone's personal beliefs.

Including confused children who have been brainwashed by their parents and/or social media into believing that they are something that they are not.
Then they should probably look for a different job.
 
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Then they should probably look for a different job.
You believe that schools should cater to people's personal beliefs? Whose? Only the ones you agree with?
 
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Schools should not cater to anyone's personal beliefs.

Including confused children who have been brainwashed by their parents and/or social media into believing that they are something that they are not.

I was not expecting an argument against parochial schools. You have challenged my expectations. Bravo.
 
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I was not expecting an argument against parochial schools. You have challenged my expectations. Bravo.
I was operating under the premise that we were discussing public schools - like the school referenced in the OP.

If people want to start a private Delusional School where all the children that have been brainwashed into believing that they are something they are not can attend - that is up to their parents to decide.

Public schools should not be catering to anyone's personal beliefs.
 
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I was operating under the premise that we were discussing public schools - like the school referenced in the OP.

If people want to start a private Delusional School where all the children that have been brainwashed into believing that they are something they are not can attend - that is up to their parents to decide.
The churches have already cornered the market.
Public schools should not be catering to anyone's personal beliefs.
What personal beliefs are we claiming are catered to here?
 
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The churches have already cornered the market.
Nonsense. If enough delusional people get together they can get their delusional school.
What personal beliefs are we claiming are catered to here?
I was responding to another posters comment.

They made the claim that the school is now catering to this teacher's personal beliefs.
 
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You believe that schools should cater to people's personal beliefs? Whose? Only the ones you agree with?
Yes, I do think people should address others as they want to be addressed. It’s basic, common decency. How somebody identifies themselves literally has zero to do with you.
 
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If people want to start a private Delusional School where all the children that have been brainwashed into believing that they are something they are not can attend - that is up to their parents to decide.
Interesting.

I said that the teacher should find work somewhere that aligns with their personal beliefs. You balked.

Your solution?

Sending students to schools that align with their beliefs, with teachers who support it.

LoL, k.
 
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Then they should probably look for a different job.
Teachers are supposed to TEACH. Not validate someone’s fantasy. Nice try, though.

A male is a male and a female is a female.

That’s science ;)
 
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I was operating under the premise that we were discussing public schools - like the school referenced in the OP.

If people want to start a private Delusional School where all the children that have been brainwashed into believing that they are something they are not can attend - that is up to their parents to decide.

Public schools should not be catering to anyone's personal beliefs.
AMEN!
 
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Teachers are supposed to TEACH. Not validate someone’s fantasy. Nice try, though.

A male is a male and a female is a female.

That’s science ;)
A teacher teaches the difference between sex and gender.

You know.
Facts.
 
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