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Taliban and Afghanistan

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by KisKatte, Aug 16, 2021.

  1. KisKatte

    KisKatte Jesus, send us your Holy Spirit.

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    Halo there all :)

    What do we hear usually of the Taliban? They kill little girls who want to go to school. Really that happened! They are raping women and do have sex slaves. Really that happened. They forbid women to work and study. Really that happened. They forbid even female doctors to work. Really that happened.

    But what is going on in Afghanistan? Taliban told women can continue working and everybody can continue to live like they lived before.....

    Russians and China do not close their embassy.... while all western people flee from Afghanistan.

    I have a clue! During me being in hospital I met one afghanian man who is married to an orthodox woman. And he told me russians would support taliban in his country. I was ashamed. Because I thought of the Taliban everybody knows..... I guess the Russians have this one "Taliban" in Afghanistan under their control. Otherwise I can not explain how these unhuman monsters have stopped to suppress women :). Or even they are not any Taliban at all and all this is western propaganda. ??? What do you think?

    Sure this all does not change I do not like islam. Because islam people feel insulted or even aggressive if you do not like islam. While true christians aren't..... this is the difference. Also I think better of God if I trust God to be able to come to earth, while muslims don't... okay. But these Taliban seem not to be THE ONE Taliban we usually heard of. Let's see what will happen. Opinions welcome.
     
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  2. Sketcher

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    Source for this?

    If it's true, just wait. They know they don't have to rush it.
     
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  3. KisKatte

    KisKatte Jesus, send us your Holy Spirit.

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    It is a russian source I have. In russian. Russian news....
     
  4. ArmyMatt

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    Lord have mercy
     
  5. Torah Keeper

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    I'm not sure what to believe about Afganistan. I just watched a show where veterans talked about what was going on and nobody seems to have a clue.

    It's ridiculous.
     
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  6. ArmyMatt

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    yeah, it's gonna get weird I suspect.
     
  7. rusmeister

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    All I can say is we never should have tried to establish our own presence there in the first place. Everything else that followed mirrored the tragedy of the USSR’s invasion and every previous attempt to control it.
     
  8. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    The giant killer
     
  9. E.C.

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    Afghanistan last had peace under their last king Muhammad Zahir Shah who was overthrown in 1973 by his Communist cousin. Soviets got involved six years later when the government tried to be slightly less Communist.

    I think the smart thing the US could have done (other than not enter in the first place) would have been to reinstate Muhammad Zahir Shah the constitutional monarch he was until the 1973 coup. He died of old age in 2007 and was given the title "Father of the Nation". He would have been a good unifying figure for the country.
     
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  10. ArmyMatt

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    plus to remember Afghan loyalty lies primarily with the tribe, not the country.
     
  11. ArmyMatt

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    Britain too
     
  12. Justin-H.S.

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    Watch Afghanistan, but keep both eyes on Washington DC. It’s a den of thieves. Their hearts are black and as hard as a rock.
     
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  13. buzuxi02

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    Nothing you can really do, the side we support simply doesnt have the will nor backbone to succeed. It's the destiny of the Taliban to be in control of that area plain and simple.
    The truth about the situation is probably somewhere in the middle, outside of Kabul and one other city it's still the same centuries old agrarian society. Today you can walk down Brooklyn NY and see women voluntarily wearing burqas in certain ethnic neighborhoods, so no I'm not convinced Taliban are forcing people to do something foreign to their customs.
    So with that I wish the Afghans the best in cultivating their own customs and for being victorious in resisting centuries of foreign empires.
     
  14. KisKatte

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    I am sorry to disagree. A rulership of villains should be stopped. What we usually hear of the Taliban is they kill little girls for wanting them to go to school. No villain should rule. Ever.
     
  15. KisKatte

    KisKatte Jesus, send us your Holy Spirit.

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    Look at Pakistan. If you "insult God" whatever this maybe you can be killed. We should not allow such ideologies to spread. We should support people who appreciate freedom. Sure our society has weak points, too. The killing of unborn childs is our big problem in the eyes of God I am sure. We should forbid abortion so that women and men have to think before engaging in sexual relationships. Sexual freedom is misunderstood. Because of wrong education in earlier times, now we have "freedom" but people misinterpret this as having their sexual desires not under control..... and then lots of women do abortion. I have pitty for them. By forbidding abortion we would not cause anybody to sin like this. It is hard when you have no money, the husband left or is even not a husband, you are depressed and alone and have to give birth to a child. Usually panic leads to abortion. By forbidding this we would be more successfull in the eyes of God.
     
  16. rusmeister

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    The problem I see is in desiring to rule the world. Can we? Can we truly police the world and impose morality everywhere? That has always been the dream of normal people who supported their empire (whether it was called as such or not). The trouble with empire is that it always falls to the lust for power, good intentions turn into evil deeds.
    Those good intentions have never succeeded in that region, ever. Even if you try to compare with WW2, the salient point was that we went in, stopped the evils, occupied for a short time, and then left, turning our enemies into our allies, or at least, much more friendly relations. In Afghanistan, the critical mass of natives necessary to significantly change government and policies has never been enough. Islam is solidly entrenched, and going nowhere, and certainly cannot be replaced by secular humanism, the essential Western offering.
    It is even doubtful that we can establish moral policy in our own nations, let alone foreign ones. If we can't rule our own house, how can we expect to rule others? After WW2, there was still a generally Christian consensus in a unified nation, and opposition to it was negligible. That consensus no longer exists, and we can't even forbid abortion in our own lands, and that is surely the most wicked of all human rights violations. How can we keep Afghans from committing evils when we can't stop our own at home?
     
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  17. KisKatte

    KisKatte Jesus, send us your Holy Spirit.

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    The problem of western nations is hypocrisy. True feminism would allow women to decide to work or not to work. Nowadays women have to work and to bear children. If you do not work in high educated atmospheres it is too much stress for intelligent persons. So you not only have to work, you have to make career. Nobody ever was interested in the true problems when women want do abortion. True equal rights would be when everybody is treated justly according to his gender. Women bear children and do not have to become poor from this. They need money and good health treatment. But men would oppose such measures because they are nasty against women and their rights. Such men you always find also in churches. Hypocrisy is everywhere. I believe everybody who does not look at the things sincerely being a hypocrit. And churches are therefore also guilty for me when anybody commits abortion.
     
  18. buzuxi02

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    Stopped by whom? And who are the villains? The Afghani people pride themselves on their country being the graveyard of empires, meaning we were the villains. I find no evidence Afghan women are against the Taliban as they still wear burqas here in the United States. Many of them still wear their old garb to whatever country they move to.
     
  19. Andrei D

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    They're terrible villains and that is without doubt. I mean, from what I see in the papers, Talibans are almost as bad as Trump supporters. Or Hungarians. Or the Orthodox. In fact, Orthodox priests are referred to, in the corporate media, as "taliban" in my country. Right?
     
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