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I say Taize is not Catholic because it orignates from a non-Catholic monastic community in France.
The Taizé Community is an ecumenical Christian monastic order in Taizé, Saône-et-Loire, Burgundy, France. It is composed of about 100 brothers who come from Protestant and Catholic traditions.
Your point? Catholics have been known to participate in heretical sects before? That doesn't negate the error of it.
If it's not Catholic,
DO NOT GO!
Why would one see fit to participate in non-fully Catholic worship? God can be worshipped most fully and truly only in his Holy Catholic Church; this is the traditional teaching of the Holy Catholic Church.
To participate in heretical Protestant "worship services" is to participate in heresy; as the Church as traditionally held: she even by law forbade Catholics from attending such services.
Now if She has traditionally prohibited such: why would you seek to fancy it a "good idea" when the Church has historically and traditionally though it to bring about heresy, apostasy, and potential damnation via alienation from Christ's Holy Catholic Church: I should think that one would want to avoid such sects; they chip away at and subtly destroy one's faith.
you are missrepresenting the teachings of the Church
it is no longer forbiden to attend non-catholic worship services
1917 CIC #1258 said:§1. Haud licitum est fidelibus quovis modo active assistere seu partem habere in sacris acatholicorum.
§2. Tolerari potest praesentia passiva seu mere materialis, civilis officii vel honoris causa, ob gravem rationem ab Episcopo in casu dubii probandam, in acatholicorum funeribus, nuptiis similibusque sollemniis, dummodo perversionis et scandali periculum absit.
St. Paul (2Cor 6:14-15) said:Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever?
Council of Laodicea (AD 363) said:No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics.
Pope Pius XI said:For since they hold it for certain that men destitute of all religious sense are very rarely to be found, they seem to have founded on that belief a hope that the nations, although they differ among themselves in certain religious matters, will without much difficulty come to agree as brethren in professing certain doctrines, which form as it were a common basis of the spiritual life. For which reason conventions, meetings and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians, even those who have unhappily fallen away from Christ or who with obstinacy and pertinacity deny His divine nature and mission. Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little. turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.
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All Christians, they add, should be as "one": for then they would be much more powerful in driving out the pest of irreligion, which like a serpent daily creeps further and becomes more widely spread, and prepares to rob the Gospel of its strength. These things and others that class of men who are known as pan-Christians continually repeat and amplify; and these men, so far from being quite few and scattered, have increased to the dimensions of an entire class, and have grouped themselves into widely spread societies, most of which are directed by non-Catholics, although they are imbued with varying doctrines concerning the things of faith. This undertaking is so actively promoted as in many places to win for itself the adhesion of a number of citizens, and it even takes possession of the minds of very many Catholics and allures them with the hope of bringing about such a union as would be agreeable to the desires of Holy Mother Church, who has indeed nothing more at heart than to recall her erring sons and to lead them back to her bosom. But in reality beneath these enticing words and blandishments lies hid a most grave error, by which the foundations of the Catholic faith are completely destroyed.
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But We do know that from this it is an easy step to the neglect of religion or indifferentism and to modernism, as they call it. Those, who are unhappily infected with these errors, hold that dogmatic truth is not absolute but relative, that is, it agrees with the varying necessities of time and place and with the varying tendencies of the mind, since it is not contained in immutable revelation, but is capable of being accommodated to human life. Besides this, in connection with things which must be believed, it is nowise licit to use that distinction which some have seen fit to introduce between those articles of faith which are fundamental and those which are not fundamental, as they say, as if the former are to be accepted by all, while the latter may be left to the free assent of the faithful: for the supernatural virtue of faith has a formal cause, namely the authority of God revealing, and this is patient of no such distinction.
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So, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics: for the union of Christians can only be promoted by promoting the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it, for in the past they have unhappily left it.
Hilaire Belloc said:You will find people saying on every side that the Bolshevist movement (for instance) is "definitely anti-Christian" -- "opposed to every form of Christianity" -- and must be "resisted by all Christians irrespective of the particular Church to which each may belong," and so on.
Speech and writing of this kind are futile because they mean nothing definite. There is no such thing as a religion called "Christianity" -- there never has been such a religion.
There is and always has been the Church, and various heresies proceeding from a rejection of some of the Church's doctrines by men who still desire to retain the rest of her teaching and morals. But there never has been and never can be or will be a general Christian religion professed by men who all accept some central important doctrines, while agreeing to differ about others. There has always been, from the beginning, and will always be, the Church, and sundry heresies either doomed to decay, or, like Mohammedanism, to grow into a separate religion. Of a common Christianity there has never been and never can be a definition, for it has never existed.
There is no essential doctrine such that if we can agree upon it we can differ about the rest: as for instance, to accept immortality but deny the Trinity. A man will call himself a Christian though he denies the unity of the Christian Church; he will call himself a Christian though he denies the presence of Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament; he will cheerfully call himself a Christian though he denies the Incarnation.
No; the quarrel is between the Church and the anti-Church -- the Church of God and anti-God -- the Church of Christ and anti-Christ.
The message was, stay faithful to your own Church and don't go form any new communities, but bring home with yourself the spirit of reconciliation - that was the key word, reconciliation - and live it. Reconciliation in the family, in the community, between communities.
The ecumenism too, was healthy. We prayed and made plans and spent our days together, but the church had a Catholic tabernacle in one aisle and an Orthodox iconostasis in the other, and we all had our own liturgies and Sacraments, reinforcing the message to stay true to your own Church and keep its rules and traditions.
do you have anything after vatican 2 that says that we can not attend protestant services?This ecumenism is not healthy, but false. Ecumenism is dialogue with heresies, schisms, and non-Christian religions in order to bring them back into communion with the Catholic Church. "Stay faithful to your own Church" is the false distortion -- there is only one Church.
And why would one attend one now? The Church has historically said that it is not possible to offer true worship save in herself alone. That fact has not changed.you are missrepresenting the teachings of the Church
it is no longer forbiden to attend non-catholic worship services
do you have anything after vatican 2 that says that we can not attend protestant services?
I do not mean take communion, I know that is not allowed, but to attend and worship
And why would one attend one now? The Church has historically said that it is not possible to offer true worship save in herself alone. That fact has not changed.
All Protestant sects do is tear folks away from Christ's Holy Catholic Church. I've friends and a brother who attend heretical Protestant sects. I don't think that it's a trite matter.
I'm sorry, but when such folks claim Catholics as "elitist" or "cultish" or intolerant: I'm not amused. When ex-Catholics demean the Holy Church of God and mock her and continually try to drag faithful and orthodox Catholics away from the fount of Salvation [the Holy Catholic Church of our Saviour Jesus Christ's] to error and perdition, I cannot see but rotten and false fruit of it.
I am thank our Blessed Lord Trinity that I am bewitched by the spell of Protestantism; led to believe lies and untruths about our Saviour's Holy Catholic Church---I try to help others see and try to avoid the errors that I formerly embraced. I try in honest charity to help my friends and family see the truth of Holy Mother Church and I pray for them. Alas, it seems most would either apostasise and embrace error or else: remain lukewarm or nominal.
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