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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by friend of, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. friend of

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    I think this is a topic that needs to be discussed in all churches. Pastors need to be informed and they should be informing their congregations about this development in the world. People are getting a chip in their hands that allows them to pay for things and navigate the world. I'm not going to come out and say definitely that this is the Mark of the Beast, but I know that this is absolutely the inception of such.

    There is no reason to think such technology will be sequestered to Sweden and that this is just an isolated incidence that will not proliferate. This is merely a big step in new financial technology that will be promoted globally in the not too distant future. Please discuss this topic at your group meetings and within your greater congregations, especially your church leaders. The discussion can be as simple as:

    1) "Did you hear what happened in Sweden?"
    Response: Yes/No
    2) "Approximately 3500 people got a chip in their hand that allows them to pay for things..."

    If they've read Revelation at all, specifically Revelation 13:16-17, a conversation over this dire important topic should easily be had.

    P.S. Merry Christmas
     
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  2. Wayholka

    Wayholka A saved wolf among sheep. Supporter

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    Notice from 3:10 to 3:40 in the first video, the entrepreneur pushing these microchips foresees them going into heads as well. It would make sense because amputees exist.


     
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  3. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Pastors (false teachers) on tv (false evangelists) in the untied states have been telling their listeners to get the chip for over a decade now,
    and probably most other countries too,
    and on the internet media.
     
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  4. friend of

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    Really? That's horrifying. Do you happen to have a short clip?
     
  5. Wayholka

    Wayholka A saved wolf among sheep. Supporter

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    Never mind.
     
  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    It was on many internet published sermons 3 or 4 years ago, and on websites exposing the false teachings by those who accept government assurance of help in the future when martial law or other troubles happen - letters were admitted by a few honest pastors
    that the government had sent to all of them offering help
    to those who told their congregation or listeners to go along with the government ...... the so-called 'help' was to include protection (from their own people and from others) , food supplies when others could not get food, housing when others would not be able to get housing , medical care when others would not be able to get medical care, and so on....
    for whatever worth a 'government promise' is worth,
    a lot of pastors/ teachers/ evangelists/ went along with it willingly or otherwise .....
    I have not searched the internet for such traitors in a few years,
    but I expect some of the infor, if not even a lot more , is available still, as the groups/ churches/ organizations are in contracts with the government now to try to secure their own security , while abandoning the true Gospel of Christ Crucified, and while abandoning
    the instructions of God's Word to always continue aiding the poor and sick, widows and orphans ... (instead, they are doing the opposite, creating more poverty along with government policies, corporate policies, dhs, and pharmakeia )
     
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  7. Monk Brendan

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    This has been happening in the USA for some time. Companies offer an optional microchip for employees to allow them to enter their buildings without a key.

    Christ is born! Glorify Him!
     
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  8. JCFantasy23

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    I hadn't heard of this either. I'd definitely be declining. Sounds too invasive.
     
  9. eleos1954

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    No doubt at some point in time there is going to be a controlling power(s) in regard to buying things. That will be imposed by the governments and can be done quite easily and without having something, such as a chip implanted. Example: The US ... all that would have to be done is eliminate cash, forcing people to use credit/debit cards ... and then they would have complete control over what one buys.

    We also know there is going to be some kind of religious power involved that will be the antichrist. So, either the financial control will happen first and then escalate into a religious power or the two will work together.

    There will not be a "physical" mark.

    Mark 13

    21At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it.22For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 23So be on your guard; I have told you everything in advance.

    Revelation 13:16-17

    forehead - what one thinks .... hand - what one does ... in regard to the Lords way.

    Those enforcing the buy/sell represent the mark of the beast and they may or may not happen at the same time.
     
  10. ItIsFinished!

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    Just another step towards the future normalization of the "mark" of the beast.
    If one is saved and sealed by the indwelling of The Holy Spirit, they cannot receive the "mark" of the beast even if they consented.
    I will not be here when it is implemented.
    I will be preparing for the marriage Supper of The Lamb.
    Amen.
     
  11. SolomonVII

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    Deplatforming is also the new trend for thinking thoughts that are deemed unacceptable.
    One two punch against Christians who actually believe.
     
  12. Lost4words

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    I had a chip in my hand!!

    In the other i had a McChicken!
     
  13. pgp_protector

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    Just get it in your left hand
     
  14. Sparagmos

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    Which churches did this and where is there evidence posted?
     
  15. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    I think there's a mc's with fries and burgers in portland, but I'm not going to look it up, and would never recommend anyone go there.
    Same with the false churches. If someone wants to look it up, I do not advise going there, and won't recommend it to anyone.
     
  16. High Fidelity

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    It's a matter of convenience to those having it done, I'm sure.

    I personally wouldn't have it done, but I really don't see the problem here.
     
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  17. Sparagmos

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    I’m not sure if this is a reply to my post, but if it is I don’t get it.

    I’m not asking for a link to a false church. I’m asking for a link that provides the details of what you are alleging - that the government offered churches incentives to promote micro hopping, and that there are churches promoting micro chipping. It just seems really far fetched.
     
  18. friend of

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    Let's go with what the book says. Revelation specifically states "And he (antichrist) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.

    If the mark is only Spiritual, then how can the AC cause/force anyone to take the mark? The only answer is that Rev is speaking about something physical.

    This entire microchip project is backed by a satanic financial cabal and is the physical manifestation of what was once a purely Spiritual matter, but approaching the end of days, takes on a physical dimension as man is given the choice to wait on God or surrender to a one world satanic design.

    Matt 24:24 also states that it is possible for even the elect to be deceived. So let me ask those of you who are so confident in your interpretation that you think this mark could never be manifested physically... are you truly willing to stake the fate of your immortal soul on the matter? If I'm wrong in my literalism I lose nothing. But if you're wrong and you go ahead and this chip program is how you enter into a pact with a world system ruled by the evil one, your soul has then submitted to Satan's reign, and you are lost to eternal death. Think about this very carefully and pray that God reveal His will in the matter. Not even the Angel's would dare to tread on such a demarcation.

    I will now explain why this is no longer the case when it comes to Revelation.

    "...to receive a mark in their right hand, OR in their foreheads"

    Focusing on the word OR for a moment. It is true that a man may have an evil heart/mind that thinks only of constant wickedness, yet not acting on it with wicked works. We could then say he has the mark in his forehead and not in his hand. BUT it is impossible for a man to only have the mark in his hand, for all wicked works originate from a wicked heart (or) mind/forehead. Matthew 12:34, Proverbs 21:2, Ezekial 16:30

    BUT Rev 13:16 states that the mark will be in either the forehead OR the hand, meaning it can be found in one and not the other; the hand and not the mind. However, as scripture shows, the mind is in union with works, and so if one is doing evil works they can only have an evil mind. So I'm going with what Rev says: some will receive the mark on their hands, others will receive it on their foreheads. This is a literal branding.

    Credit cards have existed for decades and are viewed as old technology. We all know what happens when new technology arrives on the scene. Old tech gets scrapped and the option to use it is rendered obsolete. This chipping program gives the provider far more information, control and intimacy with the individual. This is the next step in the evolution of currency and the sheer invasiveness of it should give pause for consternation. What is being sacrificed here and to whom for what purpose and most importantly, how does God view it?
     
  19. eleos1954

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    "If the mark is only Spiritual, then how can the AC cause/force anyone to take the mark? The only answer is that Rev is speaking about something physical."

    ***

    It will not be by force .... people will be deceived ... satan is going to counterfeit the 2nd coming of Jesus ... people will be deceived (satan working through a man) and many many will believe the antichrist is Jesus.

    2nd Corinthians 11

    And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

    2 Thessalonians 2

    3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. 4He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

    2 Thessalonians 2

    9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie,

    Revelation 13

    16And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.
    18Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.
     
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  20. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Correct..... the branding used by the nzis in grmny was by force, thus not the mark of the beast.

    (although done by the beast)

    WHOEVER (EVERYONE) who "R E C E I V E S " the mark is thrown in the lake of fire.
    i.e. willingly, even if duped, receives the mark. no repentance left for them, according to what is written in Scripture.
    (unlike false teachings that abound)
     
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