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Student body slammed by officers at school after stealing candy bar from vending machine

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SummerMadness, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. SummerMadness

    SummerMadness Senior Veteran

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    Student body slammed by officers at school after stealing candy bar from vending machine
    Ah, so that's what police officers in the school are for, body slamming students, not protecting them in case of a school shooting. Given the rarity of school shootings and their general ineffectiveness, perhaps police officers in schools are not needed. I guess detention isn't a thing anymore.
     
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  2. Danielwright2311

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    wow, This is something I never thought off, how each student would be on lockdown and watched at all times, poor kids.
     
  3. grasping the after wind

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    Stealing is ok? Is that what I am to take from this?
     
  4. Goonie

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    Violence being used against non violent misdemeanours?
     
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  5. Danielwright2311

    Danielwright2311 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No one said stealing is ok, but doing bodily harm to children is never ok.
     
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  6. SummerMadness

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    Hello, So. How are you?
     
  7. grasping the after wind

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    Body slamming is a violence misdemeanor. Stealing is violence as well. One must grab and take to steal. Both violent actions that are extreme micro aggressions to the owner of the property being wrenched away only slightly less violent than body slamming aka tackling. If one is to regain the property for the owner, which is the moral thing to do, one must detain the thief. If that entails riding the offender on the floor so be it.
     
  8. iluvatar5150

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    In trying to find the original video on youtube, I found this one from a couple days ago:
     
  9. Danielwright2311

    Danielwright2311 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Wow,all over some candy, heck, he can just have it if he is hungry, he can steal from me any day.
     
  10. Dave-W

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    Well, a federal judge has said that police have no constitutional obligation to protect students from shooters unless they are in custody.

    So I guess they had to find something else to occupy their time ......

    [/sarcasm]
     
  11. SummerMadness

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    This is a great Poe or a delusional view that seeks out any reason to justify violence against children. Given the reply from the police about why they used force, it seems they don't even agree with that argument.
     
  12. JCFantasy23

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    I'm glad I don't have to worry about my son and school anymore with all these weird stories and issues that keep popping up the last few years. It's almost a war zone in these halls in one way or another.
     
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  13. SummerMadness

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    This would have played out differently without police officers cruising for action. Here's how this scenario would have played out in a reasonable world:
    • Vending machine is open.
    • Kids approach vending machine and take candy.
    • Coach stops kids, chastises them, makes them return candy.
    • Detention is dispensed and parents are notified.
    But when do we get to body slam children? Ah, you missed the part that this a reasonable world.
     
  14. rjs330

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    When is it okay to resist the police? And when you do, even for a misdemeanor are the police just supposed to let you go?
     
  15. rjs330

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    We don't live in a reasonable world. In the old days that would have happened. Now the kids tell you "f" you and walk off with the candy bar. Theft is theft and is rampant. As long as we treat it as no big deal, it will continue to be rampant and so will disrespectful behavior. Resisting arrest should NEVER he tolerated.
     
  16. Aryeh Jay

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    Cop should have shot him, that will teach these hooligans not to steal from the school pushing unhealthy snacks on kids and cutting into the schools profit margin.

    Steal candy, get shot.

    Resist officer, get shot.

    School shooting, you are on your own, cop ran away.
     
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  17. SummerMadness

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    Statements that suggest someone didn't read the article...
     
  18. dgiharris

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    Essentially your argument is of the variety of ... "Well, we have to enforce the law by any means necessary or else we will have chaos?"

    Lets say you are speeding 5mph over the speed limit. That is breaking the law. Should the police have the right to pull you over, break your window, drag you out of your car and slam you on the ground and arrest you?

    I can EASILY argue that speeding 5mph over the speed limit is way way worse than stealing a candy bar and by extension using your logic I can easily argue that police should drag anyone who is speeding out of their car kicking and screaming and arrest them...

    There is a 3rd option, in fact the vast majority of officers utilize this third option all the time.

    Simply write a ticket.

    A kid is caught stealing a candy bar from a vending machine, the evidence against said kid is overwhelming. Simply write him a ticket. That is how misdemeanors should be handle-- that is, there should be a proportional response.

    DO you have no sense of justice? Justice is more than just "Well you broke the law so you get what you get and whatever you get is your fault..."

    Seriously???

    This is what is fundamentally broken in this country in regards to our law enforcement. There is no sense of proportionality and justice. It is like we are using kindergarten level logic tied to a binary yes/no switch. Did you break the law? Yes. Then whatever happens is your fault!!!!

    No. We can't claim to be a moral and ethical people using tyrannical immoral logic like that. Life is a bit more complex than that and human beings have a sense of morality and justice.

    Punishment should always fit the crime and law enforcement has a vehicle to dispense justice for misdemeanors--- it's called writing a ticket. If the person refuses to pay the ticket then law enforcement has a vehicle to address that--- it's called a lien.

    See, easy peezy...
     
  19. Shiloh Raven

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    Are there people in this thread actually advocating for a student to be body slammed by a police officer because the student stole a candy bar from a vending machine? Is that really going on?
     
  20. iluvatar5150

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    You must be new here. A couple days ago, we had somebody arguing that Poland invaded Germany first.
     
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