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Struggling with christian faith

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by grantdenning, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Neogaia777

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  2. Seadish

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    Because it right there, who was He talking to if not the other parts of the Threehead Father Son and Holy Ghost were always there read read read
  3. Seadish

    Seadish Member

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    With all due respect
  4. Neogaia777

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    Oops, wrong place...

    God Bless!
  5. Bible Highlighter

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    First, the draw to Judaism is that it gives one comfort so as not to be persecuted for their risen Lord Jesus Christ. For it is written,

    “Those who want to make a good impression and a fine show in the flesh would try to compel you to receive circumcision, simply so that they may escape being persecuted for allegiance to the cross of Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).”
    (Galatians 6:12 AMPC).
    Second, there are many fulfilled Messianic Prophecies. Like say 365 of them that you cannot ignore. Maybe one or two coincidences you could write off, but the shear number of so many coincidences is kind of like God hitting a person over the head.

    365 Messianic Prophecies

    The following is a list of prophecies in the Jewish scriptures that Jesus fulfilled.

    1. Genesis 3:15.....Seed of a woman (virgin birth).....Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:18-20
    2. Genesis 3:15.....He will bruise Satan's head.....Hebrews 2:14, 1 John 3:8
    3. Genesis 5:24....The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated....Mark 6:19
    4. Genesis 9:26-27...The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem...Luke 3:36
    5. Genesis 12:3...As Abraham's seed, will bless all nations...Acts 3:25,26
    6. Genesis 12:7...The The Promise made made to Abraham's Seed...Galatians 3:16
    7. Genesis 14:18...A priest after Melchizedek...Hebrews 6:20
    8. Genesis 14:18........A King also........Hebrews 7:2
    9. Genesis 14:18...The Last Supper foreshadowed...Matthew 26:26-29
    10. Genesis 17:19.......The Seed of Isaac.......Romans. 9:7
    11. Genesis 21:12 …Seed of Isaac…Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18
    12. Genesis 22:8...The Lamb of God promised...John 1:29
    13. Genesis 22:18...As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations...Galatians 3:16
    14. Genesis26:2-5..The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer..Hebrews11:18
    15. Genesis 49:10...The time of His coming...Luke 2:1-7; Galatians 4:4
    16. Genesis 49:10.......The Seed of Judah.......Luke 3:33
    17. Genesis 49:10......Called Shiloh or One Sent......John 17:3
    18. Genesis 49:10...To come before Judah lost identity...John 11:47-52
    19. Genesis 49:10...To Him shall the obedience of the people be...John 10:16
    20. Exodus 3:13,14........The Great "I Am".......John 4:26
    21. Exodus 12:5...A Lamb without blemish...1 Pet. 1:19
    22. Exodus 12:13...The blood of the Lamb saves Romans wrath...Romans. 5:8
    23. Exodus 12:21-27...Christ is our Passover...1 Corinthians 5;7
    24. Exodus 12:46...Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken...John 19:31-36
    25. Exodus 13:2…Blessing to first born son…Luke 2:23
    26. Exodus 15:2...His exaltation predicted as Yeshua...Acts 7:55,56
    27. Exodus 15:11...His Character-Holiness...Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27
    28. Exodus 17:6...The Spiritual Rock of Israel...1 Corinthians 10;4
    29. Exodus 33:19...His Character-Merciful...Luke 1:72
    30. Leviticus14:11...The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood..Luke5:12-14; Acts 6:7
    31. Leviticus16:15-17...Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death...Hebrews 9:7-14
    32. Leviticus16:27...Suffering outside the Camp...Matthew 27:33; Hebrews 13:11, 12
    33. Leviticus17:11...The Blood-the life of the flesh...Matthew 26;28; Mark 10:45
    34. Leviticus17:11...It is the blood that makes atonement...1 John 3:14-18
    35. Leviticus23:36-37...The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst." ..John 19:31-36
    36. Numbers 9:12...Not a bone of Him broken...John 19:31-36
    37. Numbers 21:9...The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up...John 3:14-18
    38. Numbers 24:8… Flight to Egypt…Matthew 2:14
    39. Numbers 24:17...Time: "I shall see him, but not now."...Galatians 4:4
    40. Numbers 24:17-19…A star out of Jacob…Matthew 2:2, Luke 1:33,78, Revelation 22:16
    41. Deuteronomy 18:15..."This is of a truth that prophet."...John 6:14
    42. Deuteronomy 18:15-16..."Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."...John 5:45-47
    43. Deuteronomy 18:18...Sent by the Father to speak His word...John 8:28, 29
    44. Deuteronomy 18:19...Whoever will not hear must bear his sin...John 12:15
    45. Deuteronomy 21:13-23…As a prophet…John 6:14; 7:40, Acts 3:22,23
    46. Deuteronomy 21:23...Cursed is he that hangs on a tree...Galatians 3:10-13
    47. Ruth 4:4-9...Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us...Ephesians 1:3-7
    48. 1 Samuel 2:10...Shall be an anointed King to the Lord...Matthew 28:18; John 12:15
    49. 2 Samuel 7:12...David's Seed...Matthew 1:1
    50. 2 Samuel 7:14a...The Son of God... Luke 1:32
    51. 2 Samuel 7:16...David's house established forever...Luke 3:31; Rev. 22:16
    52. 2 Samuel 23:2-4…would be the “Rock”…1 Corinthians 10:4
    53. 2 Samuel 23:2-4…would be as the “light of the morning”…Revelation 22:16
    54. 2 Kings 2:11...The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated...Luke 24:51
    55. 1 Chronicles 17:11...David's Seed...Matthew 1:1; 9:27
    56. 1 Chronicles 17:12, 13a...To reign on David's throne forever...Luke 1:32, 33
    57. 1 Chronicles 17:13a..."I will be His Father, He...my Son."...Hebrews 1:5
    58. Job 19:23-27...The Resurrection predicted...John 5:24-29
    59. Psalms 2:1-3...The enmity of kings foreordained...Acts 4:25-28
    60. Psalms 2:2...To own the title, Anointed (Christ)...Acts 2:36
    61. Psalms 2:6...His Character-Holiness...John 8:46; Rev. 3:7
    62. Psalms 2:6...To own the title King...Matthew 2:2
    63. Psalms 2:7...Declared the Beloved Son...Matthew 3:17
    64. Psalms 2:7, 8...The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated...Acts 13:29-33
    65. Psalms 2:12...Life comes through faith in Him...John 20:31
    66. Psalms 8:2...The mouths of babes perfect His praise...Matthew 21:16
    67. Psalms 8:5, 6...His humiliation and exaltation...Luke 24:50-53; 1 Corinthians 15:27
    68. Psalms 16:10...Was not to see corruption...Acts 2:31
    69. Psalms 16:9-11...Was to arise from the dead...John 20:9
    70. Psalms 17;15...The resurrection predicted...Luke 24:6
    71. Psalms 22:1...Forsaken because of sins of others...2 Corinthians 5:21
    72. Psalms 22:1...Words spoken from Calvary, "My God..." Mark 15:34
    73. Psalms 22:2...Darkness upon Calvary...Matthew 27:45
    74. Psalms 22:7...They shoot out the lip and shake the head...Matthew 27:39
    75. Psalms 22:8.." He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him "...Matthew 27:43
    76. Psalms 22:9......Born the Savior......Luke 2:7
    77. Psalms 22:14...Died of a broken (ruptured) heart...John 19:34
    78. Psalms 22:14,15...Suffered agony on Calvary...Mark 15:34-37
    79. Psalms 22:15........He thirsted........John 19:28
    80. Psalms 22:16...They pierced His hands and His feet....John 19:34,37;20:27
    81. Psalms 22:17,18...Stripped Him before the stares of men...Luke 23:34,35
    82. Psalms 22:18.....They parted His garments.....John 19:23,24
    83. Psalms 22:20,21...He committed Himself to God...Luke23:46
    84. Psalms 22:20,21..Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel.. Hebrews 2:14
    85. Psalms 22:22.....His Resurrection declared.....John 20:17
    86. Psalms 22:27...He shall be the governor of the nations...Col 1:16
    87. Psalms 22:31......"It is finished"......John 19:30
    88. Psalms 23:1...."I am the Good Shepherd"....John 10:11
    89. Psalms 24:3......His exaltation predicted......Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9
    90. Psalms 27:12…Accused by false witnesses…Matthew 26:60,61, Mark 14:57,58
    91. Psalms 30:3......His resurrection predicted......Acts 2:32
    92. Psalms 31:5..."Into thy hands I commit my spirit"...Luke 23:46
    93. Psalms 31:11...His acquaintances fled from Him...Mark 14:50
    94. Psalms 31:13...They took counsel to put Him to death...John 11:53
    95. Psalms 31:14,15..." He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"...Matthew 27:43
    96. Psalms 34:20.....Not a bone of Him broken.....John 19:31-36
    97. Psalms 35:11....False witnesses rose up against Him....Matthew 26:59
    98. Psalms 35:19...He was hated without a cause...John 15:25
    99. Psalms 38:11.....His friends stood afar off.....Luke 23:49
    100. Psalms 40:2-5...The joy of His resurrection predicted...John 20:20
    101. Psalms 40:6-8....His delight-the will of the Father....John 4:34
    102. Psalms 40:9....He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel....Matthew 4:17
    103. Psalms 40:14...Confronted by adversaries in the Garden...John
    104. Psalms 41:9.....Betrayed by a familiar friend.....John 13:18
    105. Psalms 45:2...Words of Grace come from His lips.. Luke 4:22
    106. Psalms 45:6...To own the title, God or Elohim...Hebrews 1:8
    107. Psalms 45:7...A special anointing by the Holy Spirit...Matthew3:16; Hebrews1:9
    108. Psalms 45:7,8...Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)...Luke 2:11
    109. Psalms 49-15…His Resurrection…Acts 2:27; 13:35, Mark 16:6
    110. Psalms 55:12-14...Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy...John 13:18
    111. Psalms 55:15...Unrepentant death of the Betrayer...Matthew 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19
    112. Psalms 68:18...To give gifts to men...Ephesians 4:7-16
    113. Psalms 68:18...Ascended into Heaven...Luke 24:51
    114. Psalms 69:4...Hated without a cause...John 15:25
    115. Psalms 69:8...A stranger to own brethren...Luke 8;20,21
    116. Psalms 69:9...Zealous for the Lord's House...John 2:17
    117. Psalms 69:14-20...Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion...Matthew 26:36-45
    118. Psalms 69:20..."My soul is exceeding sorrowful."...Matthew 26:38
    119. Psalms 69:21...Given vinegar in thirst...Matthew 27:34
    120. Psalms 69:26...The Savior given and smitten by God...John 17:4; 18:11
    121. Psalms 72:10,11...Great persons were to visit Him...Matthew 2:1-11
    122. Psalms 72:16...The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground...John 12:24
    123. Psalms 72:17...His name, Yinon, will produce offspring...John 1:12,13
    124. Psalms 72:17...All nations shall be blessed by Him...Acts 2:11,12,41
    125. Psalms 78:1.2...He would teach in parables...Matthew 13:34-35
    126. Psalms 78:2b...To speak the Wisdom of God with authority...Matthew 7:29
    127. Psalms 88:8...They stood afar off and watched...Luke 23:49
    128. Psalms 89:26...Messiah will call God His Father...Matthew 11:27
    129. Psalms 89:27...Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings...Luke 1:32,33
    130. Psalms 89:35-37...David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever...Luke 1:32,33
    131. Psalms 89:36-37...His character-Faithfulness...Rev. 1:5
    132. Psalms 90:2...He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)...John 1:1
    133. Psalms 91:11,12...Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ...Luke 4;10,11
    134. Psalms 97:9...His exaltation predicted...Acts 1:11;Ephesians 1:20
    135. Psalms 100:5...His character-Goodness...Matthew 19:16,17
    136. Psalms 102:1-11...The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary...John 21:16-25
    137. Psalms 102:16…Son of Man comes in Glory…Luke 21:24
    Revelation 12:5-10
    138. Psalms 102:25-27...Messiah is the Preexistent Son...Hebrews 1:10-12
    139. Psalms 109:4…Prays for His enemies…Luke 23:34
    140. Psalms 109:7,8…Another to succeed Judas…Acts 1:16-20
    141. Psalms 109:25...Ridiculed...Matthew 27:39
    142. Psalms 110:1...Son of David...Matthew 22:43
    143. Psalms 110:1...To ascend to the right-hand of the Father...Mark16:19
    144. Psalms 110:1...David's son called Lord...Matthew 22:44,45
    145. Psalms 110:4...A priest after Melchizedek's order...Hebrews 6:20
    146. Psalms 112:4...His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al... Matthew 9;36
    147. Psalms 118:17,18...Messiah's Resurrection assured...Luke 24:5-7;1 Corinthians 15:20
    148. Psalms 118:22,23...The rejected stone is Head of the corner...Matthew 21:42,43
    149. Psalms 118:26a...The Blessed One presented to Israel...Matthew 21:9
    150. Psalms 118:26b...To come while Temple standing...Matthew 21;12-15
    151. Psalms 132:11...The Seed of David (the fruit of His Body)...Luke 1:32
    152. Psalms 138:1-6...The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings... Matthew 2:2-6
    153. Psalms 147:3,6...The earthly ministry of Christ described...Luke 4:18
    154. Psalms 1:23...He will send the Spirit of God... John 16;7
    155. Proverbs 8:22-23…The Messiah would be from everlasting…John 17:5
    156. Proverbs 30:4…Declared to be the Son of God…John 3:13, Romans 1:2-4, 10:6-9, 2 Peter 1:17
    157. Song of Solomon 5:16...The altogether lovely One...John 1:17
    158. Isaiah 2:2-4…Repentance for the nations…Luke 24:47
    159. Isaiah 4:2…Messiah reigning
    160. Isaiah 5:1-6…Son of God’s vineyard: a parable of judgment
    161. Isaiah 6:1...When Isaiah saw His glory... John 12:40-41
    162. Isaiah 6:9-10...Parables fall on deaf ears...Matthew 13:13-15
    163. Isaiah 6:9-12...Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words...Acts 28:23-29
    164. Isaiah 7:14...To be born of a virgin...Luke 1:35
    165. Isaiah 7:14...To be Emmanuel-God with us... Matthew 1:18-23
    166. Isaiah 8:8...Called Emmanuel...Matthew 28:20
    167. Isaiah 8:14...A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense... 1 Pet. 2:8
    168. Isaiah 9:1,2...His ministry to begin in Galilee...Matthew 4:12-17
    169. Isaiah 9:6...A child born-Humanity...Luke 1:31
    170. Isaiah 9:6...A Son given-Deity...Luke 1:32; John 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16
    171. Isaiah 9:6...Declared to be the Son of God with power... Romans. 1:3,4
    172. Isaiah 9:6...The Wonderful One, Peleh...Luke 4:22
    173. Isaiah 9:6...The Counselor, Yaatz...Matthew 13:54
    174. Isaiah 9:6...The Mighty God, El Gibor...Matthew 11:20
    175. Isaiah 9:6...The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth...John 8:58
    176. Isaiah 9:6...The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom...John . 16:33
    177. Isaiah 9:7...To establish an everlasting kingdom...Luke 1:32-33
    178. Isaiah 9:7...His Character-Just...John 5:30
    179. Isaiah 9:7...No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace...Luke 1:32-33
    180. Isaiah 11:1...Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer...Matthew 2:23
    181. Isaiah 11:1...A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse...Luke 3:23,32
    182. Isaiah 11:2...The anointed One by the Spirit...Matthew 3;16,17
    183. Isaiah 11:2...His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al....John 4:4-26
    184. Isaiah 11:4...His Character-Truth...John 14:6
    185. Isaiah 11:10...The Gentiles seek Him...John 12:18-21
    186. Isaiah 12:2...Called Jesus-Yeshua (salvation)...Matthew 1:21
    187. Isaiah 16:4,5…Reigning in mercy…Luke 1:31-33
    188. Isaiah 22:21-25…Peg in a sure place…Revelation 3:7
    189. Isaiah 25:8...The Resurrection predicted...I Corinthians 15:54
    190. Isaiah 26:19...His power of Resurrection predicted...John 11:43,44
    191. Isaiah 28:16...The Messiah is the precious corner stone...Acts 4:11,12
    192. Isaiah 29:13...He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word...Matthew 15:7-9
    193. Isaiah 29:14...The wise are confounded by the Word...I Corinthians 1:18-31
    194. Isaiah 32:2...A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place...Matthew 23:37
    195. Isaiah 33:22…Son of the Highest…Luke 1:32; 1 Timothy 1:17 6:15
    196. Isaiah 35:4...He will come and save you...Matthew 1:21
    197. Isaiah 35:5...To have a ministry of miracles...Matthew 11:4-6
    198. Isaiah 40:3,4...Preceded by forerunner...John 1:23
    199. Isaiah 40:9..."Behold your God."...John 1:36;19:14
    200. Isaiah 40:11...A shepherd-compassionate life-giver...John 10:10-18

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    201. Isaiah 42:1-4...The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer... Matthew12:18-21
    202. Isaiah 42:2...Meek and lowly... Matthew 11:28-30
    203. Isaiah 42:3...He brings hope for the hopeless... John 4
    204. Isaiah 42:4...The nations shall wait on His teachings... John 12:20-26
    205. Isaiah 42:6...The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles...Luke 2:32
    206. Isaiah 42:1,6...His is a Worldwide compassion... Matthew 28:19,20
    207. Isaiah 42:7...Blind eyes opened... John 9:25-38
    208. Isaiah 42:13-25…Messiah’s actions at His second coming…Revelation
    209. Isaiah 43:11...He is the only Savior... Acts 4:12
    210. Isaiah 44:3...He will send the Spirit of God... John 16:7,13
    211. Isaiah 45:23...He will be the Judge... John 5:22;Romans. 14:11
    212. Isaiah 48:12...The First and the Last...John 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17
    213. Isaiah 48:17...He came as a Teacher...John 3:2
    214. Isaiah 49:1...Called from the womb-His humanity...Matthew 1:18
    215. Isaiah 49:5...A Servant from the womb...Luke 1:31;Phil. 2:7
    216. Isaiah 49:6...He is Salvation for Israel...Luke 2:29-32
    217. Isaiah 49:6...He is the Light of the Gentiles...Acts 13:47
    218. Isaiah 49:6...He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth... Acts 15:7-18
    219. Isaiah 49:7...He is despised of the Nation... John 8:48-49
    220. Isaiah 50:3...Heaven is clothed in black at His humiliation... Luke 23:44,45
    221. Isaiah 50:4...He is a learned counselor for the weary... Matthew 11:28,29
    222. Isaiah 50:5...The Servant bound willingly to obedience... Matthew 26:39
    223. Isaiah 50:6a..."I gave my back to the smiters."... Matthew 27:26
    224. Isaiah 50:6b...He was smitten on the cheeks... Matthew 26:67
    225. Isaiah 50:6c...He was spat upon... Matthew 27:30
    226. Isaiah 52:4-5…Suffered vicariously…Mark 15:3,4,27,28; Luke 23:1-25,32-34
    227. Isaiah 52:7...To publish good tidings of peace... Luke 4:14,15
    228. Isaiah 52:13...The Servant exalted...Acts 1:8-11; Ephesians 1:19-22
    229. Isaiah 52:13...Behold, My Servant... Matthew 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8
    230. Isaiah 52:14...The Servant shockingly abused... Luke 18:31-34; Matthew 26:67,68
    231. Isaiah 52:15...Nations startled by message of the Servant... Romans. 15:18-21
    232. Isaiah 52:15...His blood shed to make atonement for all... Rev. 1:5
    233. Isaiah 53:1...His people would not believe Him... John 12:37-38
    234. Isaiah 53:2a...He would grow up in a poor family.... Luke 2:7
    235. Isaiah 53:2b...Appearance of an ordinary man... Phil. 2:7-8
    236. Isaiah 53:3a...Despised.... Luke 4:28-29
    237. Isaiah 53:3b...Rejected... Matthew 27:21-23
    238. Isaiah 53:3c...Great sorrow and grief... Luke 19:41-42
    239. Isaiah 53:3d...Men hide from being associated with Him... Mark 14:50-52
    240. Isaiah 53:4a...He would have a healing ministry... Luke 6:17-19
    241. Isaiah 53:4b...He would bear the sins of the world... 1 Pet. 2:24
    242. Isaiah 53:4c...Thought to be cursed by God... Matthew 27:41-43
    243. Isaiah 53:5a...Bears penalty for mankind's transgressions... Luke 23:33
    244. Isaiah 53:5b...His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God... Col. 1:20
    245. Isaiah 53:5c...His back would be whipped... Matthew 27:26
    246. Isaiah 53:6a...He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind...Galatians 1:4
    247. Isaiah 53:6b...God's will that He bear sin for all mankind... 1 John 4:10
    248. Isaiah 53:7a...Oppressed and afflicted... Matthew 27:27-31
    249. Isaiah 53:7b...Silent before his accusers... Matthew 27:12-14
    250. Isaiah 53:7c...Sacrificial lamb... John 1:29
    251. Isaiah 53:8a...Confined and persecuted... Matthew 26:47-27:31
    252. Isaiah 53:8b...He would be judged... John 18:13-22
    253. Isaiah 53:8c...Killed.... Matthew 27:35
    254. Isaiah 53:8d...Dies for the sins of the world... 1 John 2:2
    255. Isaiah 53:9a...Buried in a rich man's grave... Matthew 27:57
    256. Isaiah 53:9b...Innocent and had done no violence... Mark 15:3
    257. Isaiah 53:9c...No deceit in his mouth... John 18:38
    258. Isaiah 53:10a...God's will that He die for mankind... John 18:11
    259. Isaiah 53:10b...An offering for sin... Matthew 20:28
    260. Isaiah 53:10c...Resurrected and live forever.... Mark 16:16
    261. Isaiah 53:10d...He would prosper... John 17:1-5
    262. Isaiah 53:11a...God fully satisfied with His suffering... John 12:27
    263. Isaiah 53:11b...God's servant... Romans. 5:18-19
    264. Isaiah 53:11c...He would justify man before God... Romans. 5:8-9
    265. Isaiah 53:11d...The sin-bearer for all mankind... Hebrews 9:28
    266. Isaiah 53:12a...Exalted by God because of his sacrifice... Matthew 28:18
    267. Isaiah 53:12b...He would give up his life to save mankind... Luke 23:46
    268. Isaiah 53:12c...Grouped with criminals... Luke 23:32
    269. Isaiah 53:12d...Sin-bearer for all mankind... 2 Corinthians 5:21
    270. Isaiah 53:12e...Intercede to God in behalf of mankind... Luke 23:34
    271. Isaiah 55:1…Every one come who is thirsty…New Testament
    272. Isaiah 55:3...Resurrected by God... Acts 13:34
    273. Isaiah 55:4...A witness... John 18:37
    274. Isaiah 55:5…Foreign nations come to God…Acts
    275. Isaiah 59:15-16a...He would come to provide salvation... John 6:40
    276. Isaiah 59:15-16b...Intercessor between man and God... Matthew 10:32
    277. Isaiah 59:20...He would come to Zion as their Redeemer... Luke 2:38
    278. Isaiah 60:1-3…Nations walk in the light…Luke 2:32
    279. Isaiah 61:1-2a...The Spirit of God upon him... Matthew 3:16-17
    280. Isaiah 61:1-2b...The Messiah would preach the good news... Luke 4:17-21
    281. Isaiah 61:1-2c...Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death... John 8:31-32
    282. Isaiah 61:1-2...Proclaim a period of grace... John 5:24
    283. Isaiah 62:1-2…Called by an new name…Luke 2:32, Revelation 3:12
    284. Isaiah 62:11…Thy King Cometh, Entered Jerusalem on Colt…Matthew 21:7
    285. Isaiah 63:1-3…A vesture dipped in blood…Revelation 19:13
    286. Isaiah 63:8,9…Afflicted with the afflicted…Matthew 25:34-40
    287. Isaiah 65:9…The elect shall inherit…Romans 11 5-7, Hebrews 7:14, Revelation 5:5
    288. Isaiah 65:17-25…New heaven/New Earth…2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1
    289. Isaiah 66:18-19…All nations come to God…New Testament
    290. Jeremiah23:5-6a...Descendant of David...Luke 3:23-31
    291. Jeremiah 23:5-6b...The Messiah would be God... John 13:13
    292. Jeremiah 23:5-6c...The Messiah would be both God and Man... 1 Tim. 3:16
    293. Jeremiah 30:9…Born a King…John 18:37, Revelation 1:5
    294. Jeremiah 31:15…Massacre of infants…Matthew 2:16-18
    295. Jeremiah 31:22...Born of a virgin... Matthew 1:18-20
    296. Jeremiah 31:31...The Messiah would be the new covenant... Matthew 26:28
    297. Jeremiah 33:14-15...Descendant of David... Luke 3:23-31
    298. Ezekiel17:22-24...Descendant of David... Luke 3:23-31
    299. Ezekiel 21:26,27…The humble exalted…Luke 1:52
    300. Ezekiel34:23-24...Descendant of David... Matthew 1:1
    301. Daniel 2:34-35...Stone cut without hands...Acts 4:10-12
    302. Daniel 2:44,45...His Kingdom Triumphant...Luke 1:33, 1 Corinthians 15:24, Revelation 11:15
    303. Dan. 7:13-14a...He would ascend into heaven... Acts 1:9-11
    304. Dan. 7:13-14b...Highly exalted... Ephesians 1:20-22
    305. Dan. 7:13-14c...His dominion would be everlasting... Luke 1:31-33
    306. Daniel 7:27...Kingdom for the Saints...Luke 1:33, 1 Corinthians 15:24, Revelation 11:15
    307. Dan. 9:24a...To make an end to sins... Galatians 1:3-5
    308. Dan. 9:24b...He would be holy... Luke 1:35
    309. Dan. 9:25...Announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem... John 12:12-13
    310. Dan. 9:26a...Killed... Matthew 27:35
    311. Dan. 9:26b...Die for the sins of the world... Hebrews 2:9
    312. Dan. 9:26c...Killed before the destruction of the temple... Matthew 27:50-51
    313. Dan. 10:5-6...Messiah in a glorified state... Rev. 1:13-16
    314. Hosea 3:5...Israel restored...John 18:37, Romans 11:25-27
    315. Hosea 11:1, Numbers 24:8...Flight to Egypt...Matthew 2:14
    316. Hosea 13:14...He would defeat death... 1 Corinthians 15:55-57
    317. Joel 2:28-32...Promise of the Spirit...Acts 2:17-21, Romans 10:13
    318. Joel 2:32...Offer salvation to all mankind... Romans. 10:12-13
    319. Micah 2:12-13...Israel Regathered...John 10:14,26
    320. Micah 4:1-8...The Kingdom established - place of Birth Bethlehem...Luke 1:33, Matthew 2:1, Luke 2:4,10,11
    321. Micah 5:2a...Born in Bethlehem... Matthew 2:1-2
    322. Micah 5:2b...God's servant... John 15:10
    323. Micah 5:2c...from everlasting... John 8:58
    324. Haggai 2:6-9...He would visit the second Temple... Luke 2:27-32
    325. Haggai 2:23...Descendant of Zerubbabel... Luke 3:23-27
    326. Joel 2:28-32...Promise of the Spirit...Acts 2:17-21, Romans 10:13
    327. Amos 8:9...The Sun Darkened...Matthew 24:29, Acts 2:20, Revelation 6:12
    328. Amos 9:11-12...Restoration of tabernacle...Acts 14:16-18
    329. Habakkuk 2:14...Earth filled with knowledge of the glory of the Lord...Romans 11:26, Revelation 21:23-26
    330. Zechariah 2:10-13...The Lamb on the Throne...Revelation 5:13, 6:9, 21:24
    331. Zechariah 3:8...God's servant... John 17:4
    332. Zechariah 6:12-13...Priest and King... Hebrews 8:1
    333. Zechariah 9:9a...Greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem... Matthew 21:8-10
    334. Zechariah 9:9b...Beheld as King... John 12:12-13
    335. Zechariah 9:9c...The Messiah would be just... John 5:30
    336. Zechariah 9:9d...The Messiah would bring salvation... Luke 19:10
    337. Zechariah 9:9e...The Messiah would be humble... Matthew 11:29
    338. Zechariah 9:9f...Presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey... Matthew 21:6-9
    339. Zechariah 10:4...The cornerstone... Ephesians 2:20
    340. Zechariah 11:4-6a...At His coming, Israel to have unfit leaders... Matthew 23:1-4
    341. Zechariah 11:4-6b...Rejection causes God to remove His protection.. Luke 19:41-44
    342. Zechariah 11:4-6c...Rejected in favor of another king... John 19:13-15
    343. Zechariah 11:7...Ministry to "poor," the believing remnant... Matthew 9:35-36
    344. Zechariah 11:8a...Unbelief forces Messiah to reject them... Matthew 23:33
    345. Zechariah 11:8b...Despised... Matthew 27:20
    346. Zechariah 11:9...Stops ministering to the those who rejected Him... Matthew 13:10-11
    347. Zechariah 11:10-11a...Rejection causes God to remove protection... Luke 19:41-44
    348. Zechariah 11:10-11b...The Messiah would be God... John 14:7
    349. Zechariah 11:12-13a...Betrayed for thirty pieces of silver... Matthew 26:14-15
    350. Zechariah 11:12-13b...Rejected... Matthew 26:14-15
    351. Zechariah 11:12-13c...Thirty pieces of silver thrown into the house of the Lord... Matthew 27:3-5
    352. Zechariah 11:12-13d...The Messiah would be God... John 12:45
    353. Zechariah 12:10a...The Messiah's body would be pierced... John 19:34-37
    354. Zechariah 12:10b...The Messiah would be both God and man... John 10:30
    355. Zechariah 12:10c...The Messiah would be rejected... John 1:11
    356. Zechariah 13:7a...God's will He die for mankind... John 18:11
    357. Zechariah 13:7b...A violent death... Matthew 27:35
    358. Zechariah 13:7c...Both God and man.. John 14:9
    359. Zechariah 13:7d...Israel scattered as a result of rejecting Him... Matthew 26:31-56
    360. Malachi 3:1a...Messenger to prepare the way for Messiah... Matthew 11:10
    361. Malachi 3:1b...Sudden appearance at the temple... Mark 11:15-16
    362. Malachi 3:1c...Messenger of the new covenant... Luke 4:43
    363. Malachi 3:3...Our Sins Are Purged...Luke 1:78, John 1:9; 12:46, 2 Peter 1:19, Revelation 2:28; 19:11-16; 22:16
    364. Malachi 4:5...Forerunner in the spirit of Elijah... Matthew 3:1-2
    365. Malachi 4:6...Forerunner would turn many to righteousness... Luke 1:16-17

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  7. Bible Highlighter

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    Three, then there are the Typifications of Jesus Christ.

    The stories, sacrifices, the tabernacle, etc. all point to Jesus Christ.

    Abraham offered up his son Issac is clearly a parallel of the Father offering up His Son, Jesus Christ.

    I have heard by a Pastor once say there is a book out there that lists hundreds of these parallels between Joseph and Jesus alone, too. Which I find to be absolutely fascinating.

    Here is 60 of them listed here in this PDF document.


    Well, God revealed to me a parallel in the story of Joseph and Jesus. It has to do with Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane. For what was in the cup that made Jesus shrink, He had never recoiled before? For something clearly pressed in upon Him now that was something he had never faced before. What was it? What could bring the mighty, majestic Son of God to such depths of sorrow and agony? What force or power could wring such anguish sweat from His brow?

    Isaiah 53:6 gives the answer when it simply states. “The Lord [God, the Father] laid on Him [Jesus Christ] the iniquity of us all.” For by His stripes we are healed. He was crushed for our iniquities. He was wounded for our transgressions. All things that suggest that Jesus took upon the sin of the world at the Garden of Gethsemane and then was whipped and beaten for our transgressions before He went to the cross to complete out His sentence of torture and death. The “cup” was filled with the sin of the world. The guilt and pollution of all the world was there in that cup. Jesus saw the totality of sin – its length, its width, its depth – and He recoiled from it.

    Just as Joseph had tested his brothers by putting a silver cup in Benjamin's sack (his youngest brother), he found out that Judah was willing to take his younger brother's place because of the guilt that was found with this cup (Genesis 44:6-13) (Genesis 44:18-34). For Judah no doubt bore the guilt of what he did to Joseph and did not want to see his father go thru any more suffering over yet another son of whom he loved very much. In other words, Judah did not want to bare all that guilt.

    In fact, there are times; I’m sure when some of us had bore the guilt or were oppressed by the weight of even our own sin. But, think the weight of the sins of the whole world that pressed down upon Christ’s soul, until He sinks lower and lower, and cries out, “Oh, Father, is there any other way, must I drink this cup of iniquity?”

    2 Corinthians 5:21 - "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."

    1 Peter 2:24 - "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed."
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    Important Note so that there is no confusion:

    Christ is the Eternal God who is the creator (John 1:1 KJV), uncreated, and second person of the Godhead (i.e. the Word) who was made flesh (John 1:14 KJV). For the Lord our God is one God who exists in three distinct persons (i.e. the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit) (1 John 5:7 KJV). Jesus Christ is God Almighty in the flesh and He is not a created angel. In the KJV: the word "angel" in reference to the title "Angel of the Lord" is actually translated as "Messenger" in the Hebrew. So the words as we would understand it today would say "Messenger of the Lord". So, no. Jesus is not an angel. It is merely a title or a name only! Anyways, I believe this "Messenger of the Lord" is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ (Who is God) in the Old Testament. Again, these pre-incarnate appearances are called "Theophanies" or "Christophanies".​

    Four, we also know that....

    Jesus (Who is the Eternal God) is the Messenger of the Lord in the OT:

    It is quite astonishing to discover that Jesus Christ appears not only in the prophecies and typifications within the Old Testament but He also actually makes real pre-incarnate physical appearances in the Old Testament, as well. Many of these appearances are under the title of the "Angel of the Lord" in the KJV. Yet, we clearly know that Jesus is not a created angel or being but He is God Almighty Himself (or the second person in the Godhead).

    Anyways, please take the time to look up the origin of the word "angel" at etymonline. While you are there, you will discover that it can also be defined as "messenger".

    Online Etymology Dictionary

    In other words, Jesus is the Messenger of the Lord in the Old Testament!

    Now, where does our Lord Jesus appear as a messenger in the Old Testament?

    1. The Story of Hagar -

    Genesis 16:7-13

    The angel of the LORD promised to do something that only God can do (see v.10). Hagar knew that it was the Lord who spoke to her (v. 13) and she identified the angel of the LORD as God: "Thou God seest me" (v.13).

    Genesis 21:17-20

    The angel of the Lord promised to do something only God can do (see v.18). This angel is identified as God (v.19).

    2. The Story of Abraham & Sarah -

    Genesis 18:1-33

    Although the title of the "angel of the Lord" is not used here, it is clear within this chapter that is Jesus Christ. First, "the Lord appeared unto him (i.e. Abraham)" (v. 1) followed by the immediate appearance of three men (v. 2). Abraham and Sarah both call him Lord, as well (v. 3) (v. 12). The Lord also knew Sarah had laughed at God's promise when she was not present (v. 15).

    3. The Story of Abraham & Isaac -

    Genesis 22:15-18

    The angel of the Lord is speaking (verses 15-16) and yet verse 16 makes it clear that it is God who is speaking ("saith the LORD")! In verses 17-18 the angel of the Lord promises to do what only God can do.

    4. The Story of Jacob -

    Genesis 31:11-13

    The angel of God (v.11) identifies Himself as God: "I am the God of Bethel" (v.13).

    Genesis 32:24-32

    Jacob wrestles with a man who he later identifies the place with the name "Peniel", which means he had seen God face to face (v. 30).

    5. The Story of Joseph -

    Genesis 48:14-16

    When Jacob was blessing Joseph and his sons he mentions :The Angel which redeemed me from all evil" (v. 16). Now, last time I checked, but angels do not redeem anyone. They are simply guardians.

    6. The Story of Moses -

    Exodus 3:2-7

    The angel of the Lord appeared to Moses out of the midst of a burning bush and identified Himself as God (verses 4 and 6) and as Lord (verses 4 and 7). See also Acts 7:30-32 where the angel of the Lord is identified as the Lord God.

    Exodus 14:19-21

    The angel of God does what only God can do (verses 19-20) and is identified with the glorious manifestation of God in the pillar of the cloud (verses 19-20). In verse 21 this angel is identified as "the LORD".

    Exodus 23:20-23

    This passage makes it clear that the Lord’s angel is much more than a mere angel; this angel is closely identified with God: Lord’s "name is in Him" (v.21, "name" referring to Lord's nature and character) and God’s people must "obey His voice" (v.21). Indeed, He has the authority to "pardon your transgressions" or not to pardon them, and who can forgive sins but God alone? Notice that the angel is distinct from God and sent by God. The LORD said, "Behold, I send an angel before thee." We are reminded of New Testament parallels as the Son was distinct from the Father and sent by the Father (John 3:17; etc.) and yet equal to the Father (John 5:18) (John 10:30).

    7. The Story of Balaam -

    Numbers 22:20-35

    Now in the story of Balaam, we begin with God speaking directly to Balaam, then a transition from God to "angel of the Lord" So guess who was standing before Balaam? None other than Jesus Christ. The "angel of the LORD" is used many times in verses 23-26, and verses 31-35 and the LORD in verses 28-31. Then continuing in Chapter 23 God meets Balaam in verse 4 and the LORD is mentioned in verses 5 and 16. These titles are being used interchangeably.

    8. The Story of Joshua -

    Joshua 5:13-15

    Again, although the "Angel of the Lord" is not mentioned here, Jesus did appear to Joshua in the form of a man. This man was worshiped by Joshua (v. 14) and this man declared that Joshua was standing on Holy ground (v. 15).

    9. The Beginning Story of the Judges -

    Judges 2:1-3

    The angel of Lord says things that only God could say. God is the One who brought them into the land which He swore to give unto their fathers (v.1). God is the One who promised to never break His covenant (v.1).

    10. The Story of Gideon -

    Judges 6:11-24

    As you follow this passage, pay close attention to who is speaking to Gideon: in verse 12 the angel of the Lord is speaking; in verse 14 the Lord is speaking; in verse 16 the Lord is speaking; in verse 20 the angel of God is speaking. Lord and the angel of Lord are one and the same.

    11. The Story of Samson's Birth -

    Judges 13:3-23

    Note especially verses 17-18. Manoah said to the angel of the Lord, "What is Thy Name?" (v.17) and the angel of the Lord said, "Why asketh thou thus after My Name, seeing it is secret?" The word "secret" may be translated "wonderful." It is the same Hebrew word found in Isaiah 9:6 – "His Name shall be called wonderful." In Isaiah 9:6 the term is used as a name of Christ who is also called "the Mighty God." The fact that the Lord's angel was God was certainly known by Manoah. After the angel of the Lord appeared to him Manoah said, "We have seen God!" (v.22).

    The Angel of the Lord is also mentioned in the story of David, Isaiah, the Psalms, and Zechariah. So it is amazing to see how Jesus Christ being our eternal God was always present in the past, even revealing Himself within the sacred Scriptures of the Old Testament, too.
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    Five, there is the names code in the genealogy of Jesus Christ.

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  10. Albion

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    In truth, Grant, we do not know when Jesus was crucified. The guessing has traditionally run towards AD33, but that could well be off by a few years. If you remember from your studies, he had been called by the Jewish leaders a young man not yet 50 years old. That would be an odd way of challenging someone who was only 30 or so, wouldn't it?
  11. RDKirk

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    Indeed. If Christianity is merely a belief in certain facts, it's always vulnerable to an attack on those facts, because attacking facts is what the secular world does for a living.

    Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?”
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    Redemption is the truth...

    God Bless!
  13. hedrick

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    A number of people have responded with lists of prophecies supposedly applying to Jesus. The problem with this is that any competent Jewish apologist can dismiss most of them. Indeed it's this approach that is likely causing the OP's problem in the first place. Yes, Jesus is God's anointed representative (the meaning of Messiah). That concept does have some basis in the prophets. But these lists of out of context quotes miss the point, and tend to discredit Christianity.
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    Six, the Cross can be found in Israelite Camp Arrangement:


    The Camp of Israel
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    Seven, the impossibility of Christ's genealogy in relation to the number 7 shows that it is divine in origin (within the Greek Scriptures).

    The appearance of the number 8 in the King James Bible also points to Jesus Christ.

    Side Note:

    While I like Chuck Missler's apologetic videos, I do not agree with his belief on Eternal Security. I also like Mike Hoggard's videos on Biblical Numerics (Not Numerology), but I am not a fan of his regular sermons. I also do not agree with everything he teaches, either. But he presents facts in the Bible that you cannot ignore.
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    Seven, you have to recognize the evidences that are in favor for Jesus Christ's resurrection.

    Evidence for the Resurrection
    by Josh McDowell

    For centuries many of the world's distinguished philosophers have assaulted Christianity as being irrational, superstitious and absurd. Many have chosen simply to ignore the central issue of the resurrection. Others have tried to explain it away through various theories. But the historical evidence just can't be discounted.

    A student at the University of Uruguay said to me. "Professor McDowell, why can't you refute Christianity?"

    "For a very simple reason," I answered. "I am not able to explain away an event in history--the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

    How can we explain the empty tomb? Can it possibly be accounted for by any natural cause?


    After more than 700 hours of studying this subject, I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection of Jesus Christ is either one of the most wicked, vicious, heartless hoaxes ever foisted on the minds of human beings--or it is the most remarkable fact of history.

    Here are some of the facts relevant to the resurrection: Jesus of Nazareth, a Jewish prophet who claimed to be the Christ prophesied in the Jewish Scriptures, was arrested, was judged a political criminal, and was crucified. Three days after His death and burial, some women who went to His tomb found the body gone. In subsequent weeks, His disciples claimed that God had raised Him from the dead and that He appeared to them various times before ascending into heaven.

    From that foundation, Christianity spread throughout the Roman Empire and has continued to exert great influence down through the centuries.


    The New Testament accounts of the resurrection were being circulated within the lifetimes of men and women alive at the time of the resurrection. Those people could certainly have confirmed or denied the accuracy of such accounts.

    The writers of the four Gospels either had themselves been witnesses or else were relating the accounts of eyewitnesses of the actual events. In advocating their case for the gospel, a word that means "good news," the apostles appealed (even when confronting their most severe opponents) to common knowledge concerning the facts of the resurrection.

    F. F. Bruce, Rylands professor of biblical criticism and exegesis at the University of Manchester, says concerning the value of the New Testament records as primary sources: "Had there been any tendency to depart from the facts in any material respect, the possible presence of hostile witnesses in the audience would have served as a further corrective."


    Because the New Testament provides the primary historical source for information on the resurrection, many critics during the 19th century attacked the reliability of these biblical documents.

    By the end of the 1 9th century, however, archaeological discoveries had confirmed the accuracy of the New Testament manuscripts. Discoveries of early papyri bridged the gap between the time of Christ and existing manuscripts from a later date.

    Those findings increased scholarly confidence in the reliability of the Bible. William F. Albright, who in his day was the world's foremost biblical archaeologist, said: "We can already say emphatically that there is no longer any solid basis for dating any book of the New Testament after about A.D. 80, two full generations before the date between 130 and 150 given by the more radical New Testament critics of today."

    Coinciding with the papyri discoveries, an abundance of other manuscripts came to light (over 24,000 copies of early New Testament manuscripts are known to be in existence today). The historian Luke wrote of "authentic evidence" concerning the resurrection. Sir William Ramsay, who spent 15 years attempting to undermine Luke credentials as a historian, and to refute the reliability of the New Testament, finally concluded: "Luke is a historian of the first rank . . . This author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians. "

    I claim to be an historian. My approach to Classics is historical. And I tell you that the evidence for the life, the death, and the resurrection of Christ is better authenticated than most of the facts of ancient history . . .
    E. M. Blaiklock
    Professor of Classics
    Auckland University


    The New Testament witnesses were fully aware of the background against which the resurrection took place. The body of Jesus, in accordance with Jewish burial custom, was wrapped in a linen cloth. About 100 pounds of aromatic spices, mixed together to form a gummy substance, were applied to the wrappings of cloth about the body. After the body was placed in a solid rock tomb, an extremely large stone was rolled against the entrance of the tomb. Large stones weighing approximately two tons were normally rolled (by means of levers) against a tomb entrance.

    A Roman guard of strictly disciplined fighting men was stationed to guard the tomb. This guard affixed on the tomb the Roman seal, which was meant to "prevent any attempt at vandalizing the sepulcher. Anyone trying to move the stone from the tomb's entrance would have broken the seal and thus incurred the wrath of Roman law.

    But three days later the tomb was empty. The followers of Jesus said He had risen from the dead. They reported that He appeared to them during a period of 40 days, showing Himself to them by many "infallible proofs." Paul the apostle recounted that Jesus appeared to more than 500 of His followers at one time, the majority of whom were still alive and who could confirm what Paul wrote. So many security precautions were taken with the trial, crucifixion, burial, entombment, sealing, and guarding of Christ's tomb that it becomes very difficult for critics to defend their position that Christ did not rise from the dead. Consider these facts:

    As we have said, the first obvious fact was the breaking of the seal that stood for the power and authority of the Roman Empire. The consequences of breaking the seal were extremely severe. The FBI and CIA of the Roman Empire were called into action to find the man or men who were responsible. If they were apprehended, it meant automatic execution by crucifixion upside down. People feared the breaking of the seal. Jesus' disciples displayed signs of cowardice when they hid themselves. Peter, one of these disciples, went out and denied Christ three times.
    As we have already discussed, another obvious fact after the resurrection was the empty tomb. The disciples of Christ did not go off to Athens or Rome to preach that Christ was raised from the dead. Rather, they went right back to the city of Jerusalem, where, if what they were teaching was false, the falsity would be evident. The empty tomb was "too notorious to be denied." Paul Althaus states that the resurrection "could have not been maintained in Jerusalem for a single day, for a single hour, if the emptiness of the tomb had not been established as a fact for all concerned."
    Both Jewish and Roman sources and traditions admit an empty tomb. Those resources range from Josephus to a compilation of fifth-century Jewish writings called the "Toledoth Jeshu." Dr. Paul Maier calls this "positive evidence from a hostile source, which is the strongest kind of historical evidence. In essence, this means that if a source admits a fact decidedly not in its favor, then that fact is genuine."
    Gamaliel, who was a member of the Jewish high court, the Sanhedrin, put forth the suggestion that the rise of the Christian movement was God's doing; he could not have done that if the tomb were still occupied, or if the Sanhedrin knew the whereabouts of Christ's body.
    Paul Maier observes that " . . . if all the evidence is weighed carefully and fairly, it is indeed justifiable, according to the canons of historical research, to conclude that the sepulcher of Joseph of Arimathea, in which Jesus was buried, was actually empty on the morning of the first Easter. And no shred of evidence has yet been discovered in literary sources, epigraphy, or archaeology that would disprove this statement."


    On that Sunday morning the first thing that impressed the people who approached the tomb was the unusual position of the one and a half to two ton stone that had been lodged in front of the doorway. All the Gospel writers mention it.
    There exists no document from the ancient world, witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies . . . Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational bias.

    Clark Pinnock
    Mcmaster University
    Those who observed the stone after the resurrection describe its position as having been rolled up a slope away not just from the entrance of the tomb, but from the entire massive sepulcher. It was in such a position that it looked as if it had been picked up and carried away. Now, I ask you, if the disciples had wanted to come in, tiptoe around the sleeping guards, and then roll the stone over and steal Jesus' body, how could they have done that without the guards' awareness?


    The Roman guards fled. They left their place of responsibility. How can their attrition he explained, when Roman military discipline was so exceptional? Justin, in Digest #49, mentions all the offenses that required the death penalty. The fear of their superiors' wrath and the possibility of death meant that they paid close attention to the minutest details of their jobs. One way a guard was put to death was by being stripped of his clothes and then burned alive in a fire started with his garments. If it was not apparent which soldier had failed in his duty, then lots were drawn to see which one would be punished with death for the guard unit's failure. Certainly the entire unit would not have fallen asleep with that kind of threat over their heads. Dr. George Currie, a student of Roman military discipline, wrote that fear of punishment "produced flawless attention to duty, especially in the night watches."​

    (Continued in next post):


    The article source for the quoting of this post is in my next post.
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  17. Neogaia777

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    So, what other way would be a much better or the best way...?

    God Bless!
  18. aiki

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    Did Jesus rise from the dead? This is really the only question you need to answer. If he did, then everything he taught about himself, and God, and salvation is true and the Rabbi is wrong.

    Read "The Historical Jesus" by Gary Habermas
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    Here is the continued information from my previous post on evidences for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. May God bless you.


    In a literal sense, against all statements to the contrary, the tomb was not totally empty--because of an amazing phenomenon. John, a disciple of Jesus, looked over to the place where the body of Jesus had lain, and there were the grave clothes, in the form of the body, slightly caved in and empty--like the empty chrysalis of a caterpillar's cocoon. That's enough to make a believer out of anybody. John never did get over it. The first thing that stuck in the minds of the disciples was not the empty tomb, but rather the empty grave clothes--undisturbed in form and position.


    Christ appeared alive on several occasions after the cataclysmic events of that first Easter . When studying an event in history, it is important to know whether enough people who were participants or eyewitnesses to the event were alive when the facts about the event were published. To know this is obviously helpful in ascertaining the accuracy of the published report. If the number of eyewitnesses is substantial, the event can he regarded as fairly well established. For instance, if we all witness a murder, and a later police report turns out to he a fabrication of lies, we as eyewitnesses can refute it.


    Several very important factors arc often overlooked when considering Christ's post-resurrection appearances to individuals. The first is the large number of witnesses of Christ after that resurrection morning. One of the earliest records of Christ's appearing after the resurrection is by Paul. The apostle appealed to his audience's knowledge of the fact that Christ had been seen by more than 500 people at one time. Paul reminded them that the majority of those people were still alive and could be questioned. Dr. Edwin M. Yamauchi, associate professor of history at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, emphasizes: "What gives a special authority to the list (of witnesses) as historical evidence is the reference to most of the five hundred brethren being still alive. St. Paul says in effect, 'If you do not believe me, you can ask them.' Such a statement in an admittedly genuine letter written within thirty years of the event is almost as strong evidence as one could hope to get for something that happened nearly two thousand years ago." Let's take the more than 500 witnesses who saw Jesus alive after His death and burial, and place them in a courtroom. Do you realize that if each of those 500 people were to testify for only six minutes, including cross-examination, you would have an amazing 50 hours of firsthand testimony? Add to this the testimony of many other eyewitnesses and you would well have the largest and most lopsided trial in history.


    Another factor crucial to interpreting Christ's appearances is that He also appeared to those who were hostile or unconvinced.

    Over and over again, I have read or heard people comment that Jesus was seen alive after His death and burial only by His friends and followers. Using that argument, they attempt to water down the overwhelming impact of the multiple eyewitness accounts. But that line of reasoning is so pathetic it hardly deserves comment. No author or informed individual would regard Saul of Tarsus as being a follower of Christ. The facts show the exact opposite. Saul despised Christ and persecuted Christ's followers. It was a life-shattering experience when Christ appeared to him. Although he was at the time not a disciple, he later became the apostle Paul, one of the greatest witnesses for the truth of the resurrection.

    If the New Testament were a collection of secular writings, their authenticity would generally be regarded as beyond all doubt.

    F. F. Bruce
    Manchester University

    The argument that Christ's appearances were only to followers is an argument for the most part from silence, and arguments from silence can be dangerous. It is equally possible that all to whom Jesus appeared became followers. No one acquainted with the facts can accurately say that Jesus appeared to just "an insignificant few."

    Christians believe that Jesus was bodily resurrected in time and space by the supernatural power of God. The difficulties of belief may be great, but the problems inherent in unbelief present even greater difficulties.

    The theories advanced to explain the resurrection by "natural causes" are weak; they actually help to build confidence in the truth of the resurrection.


    A theory propounded by Kirsopp Lake assumes that the women who reported that the body was missing had mistakenly gone to the wrong tomb. If so, then the disciples who went to check up on the women's statement must have also gone to the wrong tomb. We may be certain, however, that Jewish authorities, who asked for a Roman guard to be stationed at the tomb to prevent Jesus' body from being stolen, would not have been mistaken about the location. Nor would the Roman guards, for they were there!

    If the resurrection-claim was merely because of a geographical mistake, the Jewish authorities would have lost no time in producing the body from the proper tomb, thus effectively quenching for all time any rumor resurrection.


    Another attempted explanation claims that the appearances of Jesus after the resurrection were either illusions or hallucinations. Unsupported by the psychological principles governing the appearances of hallucinations, this theory also does not coincide with the historical situation. Again, where was the actual body, and why wasn't it produced?


    Another theory, popularized by Venturini several centuries ago, is often quoted today. This is the swoon theory, which says that Jesus didn't die; he merely fainted from exhaustion and loss of blood. Everyone thought Him dead, but later He resuscitated and the disciples thought it to be a resurrection. Skeptic David Friedrich Strauss--certainly no believer in the resurrection--gave the deathblow to any thought that Jesus revived from a swoon: "It is impossible that a being who had stolen half-dead out of the sepulchre, who crept about weak and ill, wanting medical treatment, who required bandaging, strengthening and indulgence, and who still at last yielded to His sufferings, could have given to the disciples the impression that He was a Conqueror over death and the grave, the Prince of Life,

    For the New Testament of Acts, the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming. Any attempt to reject its basic historicity, even in matters of detail, must now appear absurd. Roman historians have long taken it for granted.

    A. N. Sherwin-White
    Classical Roman Historian

    an impression which lay at the bottom of their future ministry. Such a resuscitation could only have weakened the impression which He had made upon them in life and in death, at the most could only have given it an elegiac voice, but could by no possibility have changed their sorrow into enthusiasm, have elevated their reverence into worship."


    Then consider the theory that the body was stolen by the disciples while the guards slept. The depression and cowardice of the disciples provide a hard-hitting argument against their suddenly becoming so brave and daring as to face a detachment of soldiers at the tomb and steal the body. They were in no mood to attempt anything like that.

    The theory that the Jewish or Roman authorities moved Christ's body is no more reasonable an explanation for the empty tomb than theft by the disciples. If the authorities had the body in their possession or knew where it was, why, when the disciples were preaching the resurrection in Jerusalem, didn't they explain: "Wait! We moved the body, see, He didn't rise from the grave"?

    And if such a rebuttal failed, why didn't they explain exactly where Jesus' body lay? If this failed, why didn't they recover the corpse, put it on a cart, and wheel it through the center of Jerusalem? Such an action would have destroyed Christianity--not in the cradle, but in the womb!


    Professor Thomas Arnold, for 14 years a headmaster of Rugby, author of the famous, History of Rome, and appointed to the chair of modern history at Oxford, was well acquainted with the value of evidence in determining historical facts. This great scholar said: "I have been used for many years to study the histories of other times, and to examine and weigh the evidence of those who have written about them, and I know of no one fact in the history of mankind which is proved by better and fuller evidence of every sort, to the understanding of a fair inquirer, than the great sign which God hath given us that Christ died and rose again from the dead." Brooke Foss Westcott, an English scholar, said: "raking all the evidence together, it is not too much to say that there is no historic incident better or more variously supported than the resurrection of Christ. Nothing but the antecedent assumption that it must be false could have suggested the idea of deficiency in the proof of it."


    But the most telling testimony of all must be the lives of those early Christians. We must ask ourselves: What caused them to go everywhere telling the message of the risen Christ?

    Had there been any visible benefits accrued to them from their efforts--prestige, wealth, increased social status or material benefits--we might logically attempt to account for their actions, for their whole-hearted and total allegiance to this "risen Christ ."

    As a reward for their efforts, however, those early Christians were beaten, stoned to death, thrown to the lions, tortured and crucified. Every conceivable method was used to stop them from talking.

    Yet, they laid down their lives as the ultimate proof of their complete confidence in the truth of their message.


    How do you evaluate this overwhelming historical evidence? What is your decision about the fact of Christ's empty tomb? What do you think of Christ?

    When I was confronted with the overwhelming evidence for Christ's resurrection, I had to ask the logical question: "What difference does all this evidence make to me? What difference does it make whether or not I believe Christ rose again and died on the cross for my sins!' The answer is put best by something Jesus said to a man who doubted--Thomas. Jesus told him: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6).

    On the basis of all the evidence for Christ's resurrection, and considering the fact that Jesus offers forgiveness of sin and an eternal relationship with God, who would be so foolhardy as to reject Him? Christ is alive! He is living today.

    You can trust God right now by faith through prayer. Prayer is talking with God. God knows your heart and is not so concerned with your words as He is with the attitude of your heart. If you have never trusted Christ, you can do so right now.

    The prayer I prayed is: "Lord Jesus, I need You. Thank You for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life and trust You as my Savior. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Make me the kind of person You want me to be. Thank You that I can trust You."

    Side Note:

    Please take note that I do not believe in Josh's view or belief on Eternal Security. I am merely in agreement with his apologetics.

    Source used:
    Evidence for the Resurrection
  20. hedrick

    hedrick Senior Veteran Supporter

    We don't need that kind of argument. The focus should be on Jesus' life and message. I believe if you look at the progression in the OT from near-barbarism to the prophets, Jesus is a logical step. But this requires a bit more critical thought about what the prophets' mission actually was and what Jesus' mission was.

    I've already suggested Wright's "Simply Jesus" as giving a good overview of Jesus in the 1st Cent Jesus context. It's a bit much to post the contents here.