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as in the passage of Jeremiah ch.4. It is connected with the hail stones and the coals of fire.
"The Lord also thundered in the heavens,
and the Highest gave his voice;
hail stones and coals of fire.
Yea, he sent out his arrows, and
SCATTERED THEM;
and he shot out
LIGHTNINGS,
and discomfited
T H E M".
(vs. 13-14)

I believe the "them" to still be what Jeremiah refers to as "birds". As you've noticed all through this dissertation, the term "them" has been used throughout to describe the "demonic host". All these passages have been harmonious with a "scattering" of these "inhabitants" which we've identified as being "birds"!. Oh but there's much more. I believe the "key" to this whole riddle is found in the book of Ezekial in the ominous passage that describes the "anointed cherub that covereth". This is probably by far, one of the most mis-interpreted passages of scripture.

STONES OF FIRE
As I've shown earlier, there are many little details that can be passed over, if you don't spend the time digging things out. One of the biggest questions to be raised about Ezek. 28, is "where" are the events taking place. In heaven? study this passage and you'll find that it CANNOT be so. These verses are referring to within the boundaries of the universe. There is detail in the description of the location where Satan "the ANOINTED cherub" is located. If we look close enough, we might even find exactly "where":

"Thou art the
anointed cherub that covereth;
and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy
mountain of God; thou hast
walked up and down in the midst of

THE STONES OF FIRE".
(Ezekial 28:14)

thou hast walked
#1980

"halak"

to walk, abroad, prosper, spread, journey, to haunt
up and down
#4605

"maal"

the upward part,
exceeding high, over top,
outer space
in the midst
#1459

"gav"

the middle, midst, among,increase, be majestic, be risen

of the stones
#68

"eben"

through the mean. to build,:
-a stone, made, built, idea of masonry, constructed
of fire
#784

"esh"

burning, fiery, fire,appearance lit.
or fig.

As you can see, Satan at one time was in the "midst" of the"stones of fire". But by this exegesis, we have found out something much stranger here. The "stones of fire" here are in fact BUILT"stones of fire". There is other words for "stones" in the Hebrew that could have denoted "natural stones" (ambiguously, any old rock or stone). The word for "stones" here implies that they were "crafted into shape", not something "random". The word for "fire" here does NOT imply that these "stones" were ON fire, rather they APPEAR TO BE on fire. The idea of "outer-space" is implied in the roots of the translation.What is being talked about here, are the PLANETS!.They are "built stones" that appear to be "on fire", because they reflect the SUN! This whole passage of Ezek.28 has NEVER been properly interpreted, and is always avoided. Read the whole passage carefully. The question has always been asked, where are we to place this these events surrounding "the anointed cherub" in relation to the "6000" year doctrine. Do we place this as happening "before" or "during" the time frame laid out by the "6000 doctrine".

"By the multitude of thy merchandise
T H E Y
have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast
SINNED:
therefore I will
CAST
thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will
destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the
MIDST
of the
STONES OF FIRE".
(vs. 16)

There is a lot here to digest. This passage implies that all of the blame was put on Satan, for the "violence" THEY brought up in his midst. The "they", obviously must be referring to the other 1/3 of heaven that fell with him (the "birds"). I believe that this "destruction" from the midst of the "built stones", happened in the PAST!. This "destruction" WAS THE EVENT I've referred too. This "event" was all in tandem with the initial "fall" of Lucifer! Lucifer was thrown out of heaven "before" the creation of Adam and the "renewing" of the planet. Satan was NOT destroyed, he had his "place of dwelling destroyed", and than was "scattered from the midst" of the "built stones of fire". It is this authors belief, that at one time, Satan and his host inhabited our solar system "physically", and established a "civilization" of ANGELIC BEINGS! Flesh had NOT been created yet!. They are known in some places of scripture as the "inhabitants thereof", or "they", or .... "birds"!. The most interesting factor is all the descriptions of this time-period do not seem to be describing "earth" or any distinct place per say. The only description of "where", is given in the phrase "stones of fire", which at casual glance would seem to be talking about somewhere in heaven. This just happens to be NOT the case. Read the next verse very carefully and tell me why does Satan have SANCTUARIES, and why would he need them in "heaven":

"Thou hast defiled
THY (Satan's)
S A N C T U A R I E S
by the multitude of thine iniquities,
by the iniquity of thy
TRAFFICK;
therefore will I bring forth a
F I R E
from the
MIDST (planets)
of thee..."
(vs. 18)

Whose sanctuaries are they? that's right,Satan's!. Not for the worship of himself, but for the worship of GOD ALMIGHTY! (read Psa. 148). By the "defiling" of the very sanctuaries he "built" to honor God with, he was destroyed from the midst of the solar system, and "formally" CAST from heaven (though he still has access, see Job). I believe he was "based" on other planets other than earth in the solar system. The evidence of "un-natural" formations on other planets known to the general public speaks for itself. There is no doubt as to the evidence, the question is, who and what left it. I believe this "evidence" can be seen in our solar system, and is spoken of in other references in scripture. We take some things for granted when we read them, and therefore never find out what they really mean.
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In light of all the evidence, especially including the face and pyramids on Mars, I’m compelled to believe that Mars definitely could’ve contained an advanced civilization that predates Adam and Eve. (angels)

Does the Bible contain any evidence concerning civilizations on other planets? It sure looks like it to me if its angels anyway, Starting in Isaiah 14:12-15, there is a brief mention about Lucifer’s fall from glory.

Isaiah 14:12-15

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

When things become interesting concerning this particular event, is when it is recapitulated by one of my favorite – articulate – prophets, Ezekiel, in Ezekiel 28:11-19.

Ezekiel 28:11-19

11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

This passage of scripture begins on somewhat of an odd note. While this scripture is a message addressed to the king of Tyrus, it immediately proceeds to speak to this king as if he’s Satan. Certainly Tyrus never saw the Garden of Eden, nor was he considered an anointed Cherub, so Satan is obviously the one being spoken of, yet this message is specifically addressed to the king of Tyrus. I suppose a simple explanation would be that the king of Tyrus was possessed of Satan. This wouldn’t be the first time a ruler was possessed with the devil, nor the last time. In any case, it’s clear that this message is about Satan.

What strikes me dumb founded is the use of the peculiar phrase, stones of fire. "14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

What could these stones of fire be, that would be worthy of one of the most powerful angelic beings ever created – to walk in their midst? Did Lucifer enjoy walking amidst pebbles for some strange reason? Hey, wait a minute, where else in scripture does it mention Satan walking about? Isn’t there some mention of this in the book of Job?

Job 1:6-7

6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Hmm, this is strange. First Satan is walking among stones of fire, and then he’s found walking to and fro in the earth, and up and down in it. Ah ha! Isn’t the earth a stone – even a stone of fire – considering its core of over 4000 degrees Fahrenheit? Yes, this seems to make some fairly good sense. The earth, too, is a formidable stone; one worthy of such an incredibly awesome being as a cherub to desire to walk in the midst of it. Seeing that the stones of fire implies more than one stone (planets), this indicates that Satan had access to many worlds.

"…And I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire." Spoke the Lord. Access among these stones of fire – (planets) – is very important, else why would they be linked with Satan’s fall, and loss in glory. It appears that his free access among the planets in the universe was restricted, hence, he was no longer allowed to freely walk among the stones of fire – (or travel freely amongst all the planets throughout the universe).

 
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WALKING UP AND DOWN IN IT Job 1:6-7 (Walking to and fro in the Earth)
6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,
and Satan came also among them. 7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. Ezekial 28: 14 (14)You were the anointed cherub that covers, and I had put you in the holy height of God... YOU WALKED UP AND DOWN IN THE MIDST OF THE STONES OF FIRE... = planets & stars ?You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until iniquity was found in you. [15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created,till iniquity was found in thee. [16] By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast theeas profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Now then, the Bible claims thay Satan (Lucifer before his fall) had a gigantic intergalactic kingdom, and walked up and down in the STONES OF FIRE (PLANETS?). His Kingdom was immense, full of traffic and full of angelic beings that had materilized in TIME-SPACE. obviously through portals of some type, for they could go from the second heaven to the third heaven at will. Most people think of angels as simply spiritual entities, that cannot and do not materialize into time and space, and therefore do not build structures in time and space. But the Bible claim is different indeed. Ezekial's prophecy is addressed to the "king of the rock", an "anointed Cherub", who is described as traveling "in the midst of the stones of fire" which literally translated is "in the midst or among the eh-ben, 'built stones or rocks',of fire". BUILT STONES? What are they that the greatest angel created could travel up and down in their vastness? The answer is in the night sky. There can be seen "God built " stones reflecting the light of the sun.. . the planets. some think that Before the creation of Adam, the civilizations of angels existed on the terrestrial planets. Throughout scripture there is a consistent reference to the first dwelling places of some of the ancient sons of God. These angels created habitations on the Earth, Mars, "Astera" the Fifth Planet, the Moon ... Ezekial 28: 13 Behold you are wiser than Daniel; every one of the secret things
is not hidden to you... 15 You were perfect in your ways
from the day you were created, until iniquity was found in you.
16 By the multitude of your trade they filled your midst with violence, and you sinned. So I cast you profaned from the height of God, AND I DESTROYED YOU, OH COVERING CHERUB,
FROM AMONG THE STONES OF FIRE.
.. 18 By the host of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trade, you have profaned your holy places; thus I brought a fire from your midst
 
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just a thought....They would probably not walk from one place to another but move about in some device in which they would be shielded from the weather(wind,rain,snow,hail, sun,extreme temperatures)and also from insects and animals. Also , this device would conceal them from people.This sounds like the U.F.O.s that have been seen in the past on the earth and continue to be seen by people.
 
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Satan and the Fallen Angels RAHAB GOOD STUFF ON PLANETS SATAN RULED ANGELS ON,,(fallen angels and demons. all kinds of evidence http://zbh.com/sermons/falangel.htm ..............

The angelical world includes the entire solar system:
To understand the real existence of the world before ours is to blow just about every orthodoxy wide open. Yet, there are too many things in the heavens and on this earth that we cannot explain in any reasonable way. What we have chosen to do is ignore these unexplainable mysteries. To attempt to explain them is to reach beyond our present belief structure.

In the early 1970's NASA sent the Viking 1 space craft to Mars to photograph the planet. Two of those fly by’s revealed a human looking face staring upward into space along with several monuments that look very much like the pyramids of earth. What are these structures? Are they real? Where did they come from? Who made them? Does this prove that the Bible is wrong and can no longer be believed? Many fear that if the face on Mars is determined to be human like, then the Christian religion is doomed. That is exactly what Satan desires to do.

In my opinion there is a logical, reasonable answer for the face and pyramids on Mars. An answer that fits very well into what the Bible records.
Satan’s great civilization of angels:
Lucifer (Satan) was created to lead the angelic hierarchy, ruling over physical civilizations of angels on many planets in our solar system before God recreated everything (Genesis 1:3-2:25). He and the other angels were stewards of creation, building civilizations on the terrestrial planets of our solar system designed to glorify God and His Word.

Satan’s original name was Lucifer (Isaiah 14:12) which means "O shining star, son of morning ". We know that Lucifer was the most beautiful and greatest angel that God ever created. He "sealed the measure" of perfection and beauty of all creation (Ezekiel 28:12). His nature reflected the glory of God, thus his name "shining".

The actual Hebrew words "O shining star" mean "bright, clear sounding or shining" and "boastful and pride". And the Hebrew words "son of morning" means "son of dawning, or earliest, of first". So the correct interpretation of Lucifer is "O clear sounding, boasting son from the beginning". Or what we all understand Lucifer and Satan to be - the boasting angel. This portrays a much clearer picture of this rebellious angel whose realm was destroyed by God.

When Satan rebelled (Isaiah 14:13-14) God destroyed his realm, his literal dwelling places. According to scripture this destruction was swift and decisive. There was a fifth planet between Mars and Jupiter named Rahab (meaning boaster and pride) which God obliterated:

"The pillars of heaven tremble, and are astonished at His (God’s) rebuke. He stirs up the sea with His power, and by His understanding He breaks up the storm. By His Spirit He adorned the heavens; His hand pierced the fleeing serpent (Satan)" (Job 26:11-13).

"You (God) have broken Rahab in pieces, as one who is slain; You have scattered Your enemies with Your mighty arm" (Psalm 89:10 also see Psalm 87:4).

"Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord! Awake as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Are You not the arm that cut Rahab apart, and wounded the serpent (Satan)?" (Isaiah 51:9).

Are not these scriptures speaking of a time before man when God put down Satan’s rebellion? If so, then what is Rahab? For sure it was "broke in pieces" and "cut apart" by God has He destroyed Lucifer’s (Satan’s) rebellion. Could Rahab been Lucifer’s headquarters? Could that headquarters been on a planet which now the asteroid belt?

This could be two different planets or the same one. These names along with Mars are called the "stones of fire" and were capable of supporting some form of life. These were the seat of Satan’s civilization (Ezekiel 28:14-18). And it was a great civilization of angelic beings. It is here that the scripture tells us he reigned over a literal material kingdom known as "Eden the garden of gems and stones" (Ezekiel 28:13).

Before the creation of Adam, the civilization of angels existed and created habitations on the terrestrial planets Rahab, Mars, Earth, and maybe the moon. Throughout scripture there is a consistent reference to the first dwelling places of some of the ancient sons (angels) of God (II Peter 2:4 and Jude 6).

The rebellion of Satan plunged all of creation into a state of corruption, where before it was perfect and glorified (Romans 8:20). God brought fire out of Satan’s midst and the planet Rahab exploded, sending planetesimal and asteroid size pieces of itself into the orbits of the interior terrestrial worlds (Mars and Earth). The present asteroid belt is all that is left of Satan’s planet. Scientist have stated for a long time that the asteroid belt must have been a planet which was destroyed millenniums ago. Present studies have concluded that these asteroids show evidence that they once possessed an atmosphere and water. Presently only planets contain these two elements. Because this planet was totally destroyed, could it be that this was actually Lucifers head quarters.

The force of the explosion destroyed the angelic habitation on Mars and left it a lifeless planet. We presently can see the remains in the Cydonia faces and city. The face on Mars, represents an angelic or cherubim wearing a headdress. Satan is referred to as the "cherub that covers" (Ezekiel 28:14 and 16). Could this face been that of Satan? It is interesting to note that it seems to have the same type of headdress as worn by the Egyptians and Mayan royalty. Further more, the face on Mars is half cherubim and half lion. Just as the Sphinx is half cherubim and half lion.

Even Earth was effected by this destruction. Earth was placed in a deep freeze. "And the earth had become (was something else before) without form and void (to lie waste, desolation, empty, in vain, wilderness, nothing, confusion) and darkness (absence of light and heat) was upon the face of the deep (bringing a sudden deep freeze)" (Genesis 1:2).

Jeremiah’s (4:23-26) description must be of the world before Adam. He looked into the ages before Adam and described the destruction of the earth and heavens. "There were no men, (descendants of Adam), yet there were cities which had been obliterated." The inhabitants of these cities were in fact the angelic host and their leader was Satan, before this rebellion.

Isaiah (34:11) tells us of a earth that was a "line of confusion and stones of emptiness".

Peter (II Peter 3:5-) also describes "the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flood with water".This couldn’t be Noah’s flood, because every mountain was covered by twenty-two and one-half feet of water (Genesis 7:19-20).
 
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[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Ancient Cosmic "STAR WARS"?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Is there evidence in the Solar System for systematic widespread
violence, destruction and chaos which occurred at an early epoch
in its existence? If so, what was the original cause? Does the Scrip-
tural record provide a clue -- in fact, an answer -- to the puzzling
enigma? Were there "STAR WARS" in ancient primordial times,
aeons ago, long before man existed upon the Earth?[/font]


[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The history of the Solar System, before the time of man, is a history replete with violence. Scientists are now beginning to piece together amazing segments of the puzzle, and they are shocked at what they have been discovering![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In January 1986 Voyager 2 flew by the distant planet of Uranus, a planet about two billion miles away, invisible to the naked eye, and only discovered in 1781 by Frederick Wilhelm Herschel. Scientists are still poring over the photographs and data gathered from the probe, analyzing the amazing information received. One of the chief puzzles -- why does Uranus lie on its side, as though it had been struck by a large object and knocked over?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Secondly, why do its winds blow in a retrograde motion, contrary to the normal pattern in the Solar System? What caused the unusual shapes and features on some of its moons? Most surprising to astronomers, Uranus was found to be not a gaseous planet like Jupiter and Saturn, but it was found to be covered by an ocean of super-heated water some 6,000 miles thick, its temperature as high as 8,000 degrees Fahrenheit! [/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Particularly perplexing is the moon Miranda, which NASA astronomers have called "one of the most enigmatic objects in the solar system." On it exists a raised, flattened plateau with a 100-mile long escarpment which forms a strange, unique "right angle."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The Enigma of Neptune[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Voyager 2 at the end of August, 1989, swept by the planet of Neptune, and for the first time earth scientists got a fascinating close-up glimpse of the planet which lies almost three billions miles from Earth. The planet was found to have a rocky core with a slurry mixture of ice above it, and to be circled by several rings made up of rocks and boulders, with no less than eight moons. The largest, Triton, shocked astronomers. Its retrograde motion was confirmed -- it orbits Neptune in a direction completely opposite to that of the other moons, and every other moon in the Solar System, including our own! All other moons orbit in an anti-clockwise motion, but Triton orbits in a clockwise motion. Why?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Triton was revealed to have rugged mountainous features on one side, but smooth, almost crater-less features on the other side. Very odd, to say the least. What happened to cause such an anomaly?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Declared Edward Stone of the California Institute of Technology, chief scientist of the Voyager program, "It was Voyager that focused our attention on the importance of collisions. The cosmic crashes were potent sculptors of the Solar System."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Writes Zecharia Sitchin in Genesis Revisited:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Until the Voyager discoveries, the prevailing scientific viewpoint considered the Solar System as we see it today as the way it had taken shape soon after its beginning, formed by immutable laws of celestial motion and the force of gravity. There have been oddballs, to be sure -- meteorites that come from somewhere and collide with the stable members of the Solar System, pockmarking them with craters, and comets that zoom about in greatly elongated orbits . . . But these examples of cosmic debris, it has been assumed, go back to the very beginning of the Solar System, some 4.5 billion years ago, and are pieces of planetary matter that failed to be incorporated into the planets or their moons and rings. A little more baffling has been the asteroid belt, a band of rocks that forms an orbiting chain between Mars and Jupiter. According to Bode's Law, an empirical rule that explains why the planets formed where they did, there should have been a planet, at least twice the size of Earth, between Mars and Jupiter. Is the orbiting debris of the asteroid belt the remains of such a planet? The affirmative answer is plagued by two problems: the total amount of matter in the asteroid belt does not add up to the mass of such a planet, and there is no plausible explanation for what might have caused the breakup of such a hypothetical planet; if a celestial collision -- when, with what, and why?" (Genesis Revisited, Zecharia Sitchin, p.24-25).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Since the Uranus fly-by in 1986, astronomers have known and realized that the new evidence conclusively implies that there must have been one or more major collisions and/or catastrophes that occurred which changed the Solar System from its original form to the present configuration.[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The evidence is inescapable.[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Ancient Celestial Collisions[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The fact that Uranus is tilted on its side, unlike all the other planets, poses a riddle that the Uranus fly-by has helped to solve. Was it created that way, originally, or did it become that way, due to a cosmic collision of some sort? Voyager revealed that the moons of Uranus revolve around its equator in its present tilted position. Evolutionary theory postulates that if formed at the beginning, the heavier moons would be closest to Uranus, and the lighter moons farther out from the planet. By the same principle, the moons of Neptune, farther out in the Solar System, should be lighter than those of Uranus. However, contrary to these expectations, a comprehensive report on the Uranus encounter published in Science magazine, July 4, 1986, reveals that the density of the moons of Uranus, except for Miranda, are significantly heavier than that of the moons of Saturn, nearer the sun.[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Likewise, Voyager 2 data showed that the two inner moons of Uranus, Ariel and Umbriel, are lighter in composition than the outer moons of Titania and Oberon. These findings suggest that the moons were not formed at the same time as the planet itself![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Another intriguing anomaly is the fact that astronomers found, from the Voyager probe, that the rings of Uranus are pitch-black, "blacker than coal dust," and therefore probably are composed of "carbon-rich material, a sort of primordial tar scavenged from outer space." These dark rings are warped, tilted, and "bizarrely elliptical." Six of the moonlets discovered orbiting Uranus were also pitch-black, acting like "shepherds" for the rings. The conclusion scientists reached was that the rings and moonlets are the debris resulting from a "violent event in Uranus's past." Said assistant project scientist Ellis Miner, "A likely possibility is that an interloper from outside the Uranus system came in and struck a once larger moon and sufficiently hard to have fractured it" (ibid., p.26).[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In other words, scientists have come to see that the theory of a catastrophic celestial collision could explain the evidence seen in the moons and rings of Uranus, as well as the fact that it is so strangely tilted on its side. Further buttressing this theory is the discovery that the boulder-sized black debris forming the rings of Uranus circles the planet once every eight hours -- a speed twice that of the planet's own rotation on its axis. How was this much higher speed imparted to the rings?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The team of 40 NASA scientists in their analysis of the Uranus fly-by and its discoveries, in a press conference, stated: "A collision with something the size of Earth, traveling at about 40,000 miles per hour, could have done it." Astronomer Gary Hunt, of the Imperial College, London, summed up the findings, saying, "Uranus took an almighty bang early on."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The Twisted Doughnut[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The planet Neptune also shows the results of celestial collisions. Were these related to the collision that effected Uranus so dramatically? Nereid, one of its moons, has an elongated elliptical orbit that carries it six millions miles from the planet, and as close as one million miles. Its orbit is tilted at 28 degrees from the equatorial plane of the planet. Although planetary formation rules indicate it should be spherical, it looks like a "twisted doughnut," says Zecharia Sitchin, and is "bright on one side and pitch-black on the other." What caused this phenomena?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In a major study published in Nature magazine, June 2, 1987, Martha W. Schaefer and Bradley E. Schaefer concluded:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Neirid accreted into a moon around Neptune or another planet and that both it and Triton were knocked into their peculiar orbits by some large body or planet."[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The dark matter that is seen on one side of Nereid could be explained two different ways, but both explanations require a collision in space. Such a collision could have scraped off the outer lighter material on the surface of the moon, thus revealing the darker substrata; or, more likely, the dark matter could have been deposited on that side of the moon from the encounter with the visitor from outer space. The dark matter could have belonged to the impacting body and "went splat on one side of Nereid." All six of the new satellites of Neptune discovered by Voyager 2 in 1989 are similarly "very dark" and have "irregular shapes."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Baffling Triton[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The moon Triton, with its elongated and retrograde orbit around Neptune, also can only be logically explained as a result of a cosmic encounter or collision in the remote past. A team of Cal Tech scientists, including P. Goldberg, N. Murray, P.Y. Longaretti, and D. Banfield, writing in Science magazine, postulated that:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Triton was captured from a heliocentric orbit [an orbit around the sun] as a result of a collision with what was then one of Neptune's regular satellites."[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In this scenario the original Neptune moon would have been "devoured" by Triton and the force of the collision would have caused Triton to slow down enough so that it was "captured" by the planet itself as a new "moon."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Thus we see evidence from the Voyager 2 interplanetary mission that there is unmistakable evidence for cosmic collisions in the history of the Solar System. But why? When? and how did they occur?[/font]
 
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[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Bode's Law[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]According to "Bode's Law," the planetary distances from the sun more or less follow a mathematical formula which progresses as follows: 0, 2, 4, 8, 16, etc. If the formula is altered by multiplying by 3 and adding 4 and dividing by 10, each number, using as a measure the distance of the Earth from the Sun (one Astronomical Unit or AU), the formula indicates that there should be a planet between Mars and Jupiter, where the asteroid belt lies. The formula predicted the discovery of Uranus, but for some reason the outer planets of Neptune and Pluto (which at one time may have been a moon of Neptune, pulled out of its lunar orbit by some crossing celestial body) are at this time in violation of "Bode's Law."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Bode's Law predicts the orbits of the planets to the following tolerance:[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]PLANET[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]DISTANCE (AU)[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]BODE'S LAW DISTANCE[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]DEVIATION[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Mercury[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0.387[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0.400[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]3.4%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Venus[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0.723[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0.700[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]3.2%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Earth[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]1.000[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]1.000[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Mars[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]1.524[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]1.600[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]5.0%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Asteroids[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]2.794[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]2.800[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Jupiter[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]5.203[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]5.200[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]0%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Saturn[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]9.539[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]10.00[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]4.8%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Uranus[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]19.182[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]19.60[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]2.1%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Neptune[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]30.058[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]38.800[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]36.3%[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Pluto[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]39.400[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]77.200[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]95.9%[/font]


[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The planets all seem to fit remarkably into this formula with relative precision. Could the deviations that exist be due to the influence of cosmic encounters and collisions which occurred earth in the history of the Solar System? In particular, could the vast and unexpected deviations of the orbits of Neptune, and especially Pluto, have been caused by such celestial encounter and massive conflict? And could the remains of the "asteroids" between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars be tell-tale evidence that formerly a planet did exist there, but was destroyed subsequently in an incredibly violent cosmic event?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Is there a "hint" or "clue" to the cause of these ancient events in the pages of Scripture? Indeed there is! Let's examine the Scriptural record and see what the Word of YEHOVAH God has to say about violent celestial cataclysms in primordial aeons.[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Tohu va Vohu[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In the pages of the Bible, we read in the opening words of the book of Genesis: "And God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was [the Hebrew word can just as easily be translated "became"] without form and void" (Gen.1:1-2). This word usually translated "was" as it is in this verse in the King James Version, is translated "became" in Genesis 19:26 regarding Lot's wife: "and she became a pillar of salt."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The words translated "without form and void" are from the Hebrew tohu va vohu, and mean, "empty, chaotic, confused." The word tohu is #8414 in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, and is defined as "be waste, a desolation (of surface), i.e., a desert," figuratively "a worthless thing," "in vain, confusion, empty place, waste, wilderness." The word vohu is #922 and means "to be empty, a vacuity, an undistinguishable ruin."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]But did YEHOVAH God create the Earth originally in such a condition? Or did it become that way due to some ancient cosmic event, which could have included a collision with another celestial body, such as a massive planet with an elongated orbit, such as that of a comet?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In the book of Isaiah, we read:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:18).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In this verse we see that YEHOVAH God did NOT create the Earth "in vain." The Hebrew word here, also, is tohu, and means -- as above -- "a waste, desolation, desert, a worthless thing, empty place," etc. So we see that originally YEHOVAH God did NOT create the Earth in a condition of tohu! Therefore, the logical explanation is that somehow, in the process of time, at some point after it was originally created, the Earth BECAME tohu -- a vain, empty, wasted desolation and ruin![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The logical question is -- what happened?[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The Battle in the Stars[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Once again, the answer to puzzles and enigmas that greet astronomers, when they see evidence of destruction, and VIOLENCE documenting the primordial history of the Solar System, is found in the pages of Holy Scripture![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Yeshua the Messiah, himself, gave a clue when he stated unswervingly and dramatically:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" (Luke 10:18).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The prophet Isaiah tells us more about this ancient cataclysmic event, when one of the original archangels and cherubim rebelled against YEHOVAH God and led an attempt to overthrow the Ruler of the Universe![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]We read in Isaiah 14:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations![/font]
  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into the heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.[/font]
  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, saying, is this ` the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; that made the world as a wilderness . . ." (Isa.14:12-17).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]This passage is dual in nature and fulfillment, referring to the one who rebelled against YEHOVAH God anciently, as well as to his earthly anti-type, the "king of Babylon," otherwise defined in Scripture as the "beast" (Rev.13:1-5), and the "Anti-christ." However, the main reference is to "Satan" the devil. The King James Version in this passage calls him "Lucifer," and so his name was popularized in the English language. The original Hebrew word is Heylel, #1966 in Strong's, and means "brightness, the morning star." The word only occurs in this one passage in the Bible. It also means "wail, lament" (Ezek.21:17, Zech.11:2). Both definitions apply equally to this ancient being, the source of so much suffering and grief in the Universe![/font]
 
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[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The Cause of Violence and Destruction[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The prophet Ezekiel tells us more about this creature who was once a splendid, shining, marvelous to behold being:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering . . . the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so; thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, TILL INIQUITY was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled thee with VIOLENCE, and thou hast SINNED: therefore I will CAST THEE as profane OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD: and I will DESTROY thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.[/font]
  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries . . . therefore will I bring forth a FIRE from the midst of thee, and I will bring thee to ASHES upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be [exist] any more" (Ezek.28:12-19).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In the time before time began, as human beings know time, Lucifer, or Heylel, led a massive attempt to overthrow the Throne of Almighty God. The exact reasons are unknown, but obviously he became grossly dissatisfied with YEHOVAH's government and his position in it. Vanity, greed, avarice, lust and ambition came to rule in his heart. He became jealous, and began plotting and hatching a conspiracy against YEHOVAH God Himself. He wasn't satisfied with his position in the scheme of things, and began to sow seeds of dissension and strife. As he contemplated his position, he began to lust after the power and glory of YEHOVAH God Himself. He wanted to become just like YEHOVAH -- he began to see himself "as God" and smoldered in anger that he was a lesser being![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"WAR in Heaven"[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Yeshua the Messiah says of this age-old arch villain, "He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there was no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a LIAR, and the father of it" (John 8:44).[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Satan's "fall" from grace, and his ancient rebellion, are described in the book of Revelation in vivid prose. The apostle John writes:[/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the THIRD PART OF THE STARS OF HEAVEN, and did cast them to the earth . . ." (Rev.12:3-4).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The term "stars" in the Scriptures is often a symbol for "angels." In Revelation 1:20 we read, "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand . . . The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches . . ." In the book of Job, we also read that at the creation of the Earth, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? . . . When the morning stars [like Lucifer] sang together, and all the sons of God [the rest of the angels] shouted for joy?" (Job 39:4-7). Lucifer or Heylel, was a "morning star" (Isa.14:12). He was also a "cherub" or one of the "cherubim," great exalted angels who had four wings each, and four faces -- the face of a lion, of an eagle, of an ox, and of a man (Ezekiel 1, 10). All the cherubim were glorious creatures, surpassing in beauty, and so undoubtedly all the cherubim were "morning stars" in brilliance, as compared with the normal angels here differentiated by the term "sons of God."[/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Heylel obviously was very influential. With his cunning, whispering campaign, and wiles and promises of glamour and glory to the angels under his domain, he persuaded one third of the heavenly host to follow him in an uprising against YEHOVAH God, storming the gates of Heaven itself![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]He was cast down to the Earth, and all his wicked angels who followed him were cast out of Heaven along with him. According to Scripture, Satan and his wicked host will once again attempt their age-old mutiny, in these last days which are upon us. The description of this final battle in heaven gives us also a clue to the struggle which must have occurred aeons ago, in the original "Star Wars" when he attempted to overthrow the Dominion of YEHOVAH God. Notice![/font]

  • [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]"And there was WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon [Satan]; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not [they never learn their lesson!]; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was CAST OUT, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (Rev.12:7-9).[/font]
[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]War in Heaven! Consider the consequences of such a cosmic, celestial event! Would the very planets and Solar System have been effected? War breeds violence; violence causes chaos![/font]

[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]The apostle Jude also describes this ancient battle, writing, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 6). The apostle Peter also alludes to them in his second epistle, where he writes, "For . . . God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Greek, Tartarus, meaning "a place of restraint"], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" (II Pet.3:4). [/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif] http://www.hope-of-israel.org/solars.htm[/font]
 
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[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif][url="http://theschooloftheprophets.8m.net/angels.htm#Angels%20and%20Cosmic%20WarfareAngels"]http://theschooloftheprophets.8m.net/angels.htm#Angels%20and%20Cosmic%20Warfare[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Angels[/url] and Cosmic Warfare[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]
In connection with a computer conference I took part in some years
ago between a group of individuals concerning the interesting
geological history and some unusual surface features of the planet
Mars, I spend an exciting few hours quizzing Ray Stedman on the role
of the angels in the universe. Ray suggested as a matter for "the
sanctified imagination" that we could consider the possibility
perhaps that Mars had once been attacked by fallen angels during an
early-history war between the angels. The purpose of such an
hypothesized angelic war involving Mars and other planets might have
been to prevent the birth of the Savior of mankind whose coming was
foretold in the Bible as early as Genesis, Chapter 3. The earth has
been central to God's plan for the redemption of mankind. On no other
planet did Christ become incarnate, and no where else did He die. It
is not inconceivable, therefore, that the other planets were once
angelic "watchposts" guarding the earth. Satanic attempts to destroy
the earth through angelic warfare following his fall could have
reduced all the planets (except earth), to ruined, desolate, barren
worlds. This is an admittedly unusual speculation but would serve to
illustrate yet another of the devil's attempts to prevent the
redemption of man.
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[font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]Planets Devastated by Angelic Wars?[/font][font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]
To speculate a bit further, perhaps there is some reason to suppose
that Mars was the site of an ancient angelic "war" which was part of
a great Satanic plan to destroy the line of Eve that would lead to
Messiah and to establish his (Satan's) own total and final dominion
over mankind. One of the mysteries in the geophysics of the planets
is that most cratering on the moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars seems to
have occurred early in the history of these bodies. "Early
bombardment" seems to have decreased greatly after about a billion
years or so of radio-clock time had elapsed. If there were an angelic
war on Mars long ago (and this of course is only speculation), it
seems to us that it was not limited to Mars, but quite likely
involved Venus and at least Mercury and the moon as well. Some have
even wondered if the asteroid belt beyond Mars is indeed all that is
left of a planet destroyed in an ancient war. A possible modified
model of the solar system is this: All the planets (not just earth)
were created "good;" that is, in pristine, "inhabitable" condition,
but all except earth have been drastically altered by the angelic
wars of eons past. Angelic warfare has never ceased since the fall of
Lucifer, and angelic wars are not over yet. This "threat from the
heavens" is still with us, so we not only have the dim, ancient past
to worry about; we have our own future to be ready for.
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http://www.ldolphin.org/gangels.html God and Angels--Planets Devastated by Angelic Wars?--War In Heaven---Satan cast down to Earth Angels and Cosmic Warfare [font=Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif]In connection with a computer conference I took part in some years ago between a group of individuals concerning the interesting geological history and some unusual surface features of the planet Mars, I spend an exciting few hours quizzing Ray Stedman on the role of the angels in the universe. Ray suggested as a matter for "the sanctified imagination" that we could consider the possibility perhaps that Mars had once been attacked by fallen angels during an early-history war between the angels. The purpose of such an hypothesized angelic war involving Mars and other planets might have been to prevent the birth of the Savior of mankind whose coming was foretold in the Bible as early as Genesis, Chapter 3. The earth has been central to God's plan for the redemption of mankind. On no other planet did Christ become incarnate, and no where else did He die. It is not inconceivable, therefore, that the other planets were once angelic "watchposts" guarding the earth. Satanic attempts to destroy the earth through angelic warfare following his fall could have reduced all the planets (except earth), to ruined, desolate, barren worlds. This is an admittedly unusual speculation but would serve to illustrate yet another of the devil's attempts to prevent the redemption of man. From scripture we do know that good and fallen angels war against one another, evidently using powerful weapons rather than mere swords of steel. We would expect such mighty creatures, with such vast influence, to have weaponry in advance of that imagined by our government's proposed Space Defense Initiative, and even beyond the imaginative concepts raised for our sci-fi entertainment in programs such as "Star Trek" and "Star Wars."
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Planets Devastated by Angelic Wars?


To speculate a bit further, perhaps there is some reason to suppose that Mars was the site of an ancient angelic "war" which was part of a great Satanic plan to destroy the line of Eve that would lead to Messiah and to establish his (Satan's) own total and final dominion over mankind. One of the mysteries in the geophysics of the planets is that most cratering on the moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars seems to have occurred early in the history of these bodies. "Early bombardment" seems to have decreased greatly after about a billion years or so of radio-clock time had elapsed. If there were an angelic war on Mars long ago (and this of course is only speculation), it seems to us that it was not limited to Mars, but quite likely involved Venus and at least Mercury and the moon as well. Some have even wondered if the asteroid belt beyond Mars is indeed all that is left of a planet destroyed in an ancient war. A possible modified model of the solar system is this: All the planets (not just earth) were created "good;" that is, in pristine, "inhabitable" condition, but all except earth have been drastically altered by the angelic wars of eons past. Angelic warfare has never ceased since the fall of Lucifer, and angelic wars are not over yet. This "threat from the heavens" is still with us, so we not only have the dim, ancient past to worry about; we have our own future to be ready for.

Even though the hypothetical "war on Mars" (that is, an early geological disaster on Mars) appears to have occurred millions of years ago, this is a date measured in atomic clock time. According to Barry Setterfield and others, the true age of the universe is apparently less than 8000 years because of the decreasing velocity of light. This implies that the radioactive clock run rate has slowed by as much as a factor of 10 million times with respect to dynamical clock of history. In this speculative model, radical changes on Mars could have been initiated by the onset of radioactive decay rates at the fall of man, or by collision with a comet, or by events connected in some way with the flood of Noah. Mars gives evidence of a ruined, wasted place (as do Venus and Mercury as well). Apparently Mars and Venus once had oceans. Mars has now lost its atmosphere and mild climate and its water is now frozen beneath the surface as ice or permafrost. Venus now has a dense atmosphere rich in sulfuric acid, active volcanoes, and a surface temperature comparable to that of molten lead. It is thus entirely possible that the solar system is not in its original created condition, but has been badly damaged by the activity of evil angels since the fall of Satan. Likewise, it is possible that many astronomical events visible today may not be events that are part of the original creation, but may be in reality destructive disruptions amongst the stars caused by the activity of the Evil One. [See Tom Van Flandern's recent book referenced below].

In several of the Old Testament battles (involving angels) in which God is said to participate directly, we find descriptions such as the throwing down of great 100-pound hailstones from heaven and rains of fire and brimstone (sulfur), from heaven. This type of warfare is what one would expect on the planets if indeed they have been devastated and wasted by such a galactic, angelic war in the ages past. None of this speculation about ancient space wars can be "proven" from the Bible nor at present from scientific evidence but at least the Bible does not exclude such a possibility. [I hope readers will take these matters as highly speculative and not as gospel truth that can be proved from either science or from the Bible].
 
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Throughout Scripture there is an implicit association between angels and the stars. Space age photographic reconnaissance has revealed that the solar system's planets have sustained vast devastation caused by the "clash of the titans," likely related to angelic insurrection and the Biblical "war in heaven." CREATION, CATASTROPHE, AND A LOST PRIMEVAL WORLD http://www.ldolphin.org/unruh/planet/ch1ph.html Subsequent to the Earth's original creation, the Flood of Noah's time was by far the greatest single geological event in the history of our world. Nothing comparable has occurred since that time nor will happen again until the final destruction of this present universe in the fire of judgment day. Evidence convincingly indicates that the year of the Deluge was not only a period of hydrodynamic catastrophe but also a period of intense volcanic, tectonic, seismic, and meteoritic activity, of Earth-changing proportions. The antediluvian land masses were undoubtedly quite different in shape, location, and proportion compared to present day continents. The Earth, presently being nearly three-fourths covered by water, indeed remains as a world flooded by deep oceans. Some regions that are now high above sea level were once under the seas. A cloudless world abounding with exotic life and a worldwide subtropical climate suddenly came to an abrupt end. The magnitude of the driving force behind such a change is beyond our finite comprehension. Indeed it was a cataclysm of cosmic proportions, and, according to Genesis 6:11 and II Peter 2:5, represented a judgment upon a world that was filled with corruption, violence, and ungodliness. One fact stands out clearly from a geologic standpoint: the disaster of the Flood left an Earth that was vastly and permanently different and decidedly impoverished in terms of its original resplendent primeval richness. The Destruction of the Human World

There is startling evidence that catastrophic events have occurred beyond the immediate realm of our Earth, among the planets, possibly as a physical consequence in association with conflicts or judgments involving a higher order of created beings, namely the angelic host, in particular their fallen order. It is well known that the angels are often associated with the stars in Scripture. Quite likely their realm touches upon those unfathomed worlds that appear in our night skies. The advent of the space age and of man's robotic explorations of the planets have uncovered a wealth of hard data that has shocked scientists. Few believed that so many impact craters would be found on Mars, Venus, Mercury, and other planetary bodies in the solar system. Our space probes show that Mars is a tortured planet, having been externally wracked by hurtling debris that severely impacted a surface wrenched by forces internal to the planet. The surface of Mars provides an extraordinary picture of vast devastation by outside cosmic forces. Also there is abundant evidence that Mars once had enormous amounts of flowing water, oceans, and lakes. Space probe photographs made of several satellite bodies of major planets reveal impact scars of planet wide proportions. Thus we have overwhelming evidence of world shattering events in the solar system's history. Furthermore, beyond the planets, exploding stars have become an additional evidence of a tumultuous universe, and a favorite topic among astrophysicists today. It is evident that the cosmos is presently not, nor has been in the past, the relatively quiet tranquil pristine realm that astronomers had long thought it to be.

Rubble on the Desolate Surface of Mars

Out in our solar system, beyond Mars, is a huge ring of debris circling the Sun the asteroids. Some are mountain size; most are much smaller; some are mere grains and dust; a few are the size of small moons. All of the circumstantial evidences point to the likelihood that they are the remains of a single original planet. It is evident that awesome forces were at work in the disruption of a once significant primeval planetary member of the solar system in that realm. The exact mechanism which could cause such a disruption, whether it be some kind of collision, an encounter with another planet in the solar system, or an explosion, remains a matter of speculation The latter possibility appears to be the more likely, given new knowledge about the cosmos in general and the planets in particular since the advent of space age technology.

The Asteroid Belt and Distant Jupiter

Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are known as the classical planets. They were familiar to the ancient Greek astronomers as well as the Arabs. As long as 2,000 years ago mathematicians were able to predict their positions. The middle ages came and went, but these five planets remained the only "wandering stars" known to man. Speculations about extra planets at either end of the solar system as well as in the middle had their day at one time or another. Then, in 1781, Fredrich Wilhelm Herschel (1738-1822), more commonly known as William Herschel, discovered the planet Uranus, and the question of the total number of planets in the solar system came into new vigor and prominence. The arrangement and distances of the planets from the Sun had already been a matter of critical study among astronomers for some time. Of particular interest was the "gap" between Mars and Jupiter. The young Johannes Kepler (1571-1630) was clear and emphatic on this point when he wrote in 1596, "Inter Jovem et Martem interposui planetam." Kepler had come to the conclusion that there must be a planet between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Even though the supposed planet should be well within the realm of naked eye visibility,
 
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http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/9/ Is there a connection between the Greek and Roman pantheon of Gods, the Flood, and a planet that perhaps once exploded? !! What Caused the Explosion?
Ordinary planets don't explode, of course! They are all far too stable or too small for a runaway nuclear explosion to occur spontaneously. There is, however, one intriguing possibility.

The terrestrial planets contain about 19% water. When the velocity of light was very high just after creation, and after radioactive decay had commenced, short-lived radioactive elements in the terrestrial planets could have heated rapidly, leading to crustal fracture on a planet from superheated steam (more on this next month). But even so, one or more planetary explosions may have been caused by intelligent, sentient beings-namely, by mighty fallen angels!

C.S. Lewis did not think it out of the ordinary for each planet to be under the governmental jurisdiction of a single great angel.11 We know from Scripture that four amazing angels, the four-faced winged Cherubim surround the throne of God. The Archangel Michael is specially charged with the care and well-being of Israel; other angels (fallen and unfallen) oversee the affairs of the nations (Daniel 10). Lucifer, the present angelic "god" of our own planet, was once the virtual Prime Minister of the universe in the throne room of God before his fall.12

Spiritual Warfare

The universe we live in is a fallen universe, a dying world. The fall of Satan effectively wrecked and ruined the original creation, setting it spiralling downward to disorder and decay as described by what we now call the Second Law of Thermodynamics (Romans 8:20-22). Angelic conflict was involved in the original series of events that brought about the fall of man into sin and the initial devastation of the physical universe.

Although one group of fallen angels was removed by God and confined to Tartarus at the time of the Flood (Jude 6), this does not mean angelic conflict has by any means ceased! Angelic conflict continues to this day and hour! In fact, we followers of the Lord Jesus Christ are enjoined to enter into and take part in the ongoing conflict of the ages:

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm."

Ephesians 6:12-13
Angels apparently war against one another with impressive weaponry that would amaze even the best of our modern science fiction writers. Yet the Bible boldly declares that we, the followers of Christ, have more effective weapons than angelic planet-destroying laser cannons or matter/antimatter missiles.

"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh, for the weapons of our (cosmic) warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete."

2 Corinthians 10:3-6
As C.S. Lewis vividly portrays in the third book of his trilogy, That Hideous Strength, the final showdown between good and evil is set to occur on our carefully protected but beleaguered planet Earth-as the Seed of the Serpent and his angelic hosts are thrown down and enchained by Yahweh Sabaoth, Jesus the Messiah, the Seed of the Woman Eve:

"Terror and pit and snare will confront you, O inhabitant of the earth. Then it will be that he who flees the report of disaster will fall into the pit, And he who climbs out of the pit will be caught in the snare; For the windows above will be opened, and the foundations of the earth will shake. The earth will be broken asunder, The earth will be split through, The earth will be shaken violently. The earth will reel to and fro like a drunkard, And it will totter like a shack, For its transgression is heavy upon it, And it will fall, never to rise again. So it will happen in that day, that the Lord will punish the host of heaven, on high, And the kings of the earth, on earth. And they will be gathered together like prisoners in the dungeon, And will be confined in prison; And after many days they will be punished. Then the moon will be abashed and the sun ashamed, For the Lord of hosts will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, And His glory will be before His elders. O Lord, Thou art my God; I will exalt Thee, I will give thanks to Thy name; For Thou hast worked wonders, Plans formed long ago, with perfect faithfulness."

Isaiah 24:17-25:1, "Little Apocalypse
 
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[size=+1]OUR SOLAR SYSTEM [/size] (Section 17 of 27)

[font=Arial,Helvetica][size=+2]There goes the neighborhood! (Astral evidence of past catastrophes)[/size][/font]

Let’s step away from the Earth briefly. The Moon is riddled with craters. Without rain, wind or other erosional processes we can still see the evidence of past damage and destruction. Mars as well is pockmarked by craters, within craters, within craters. The Red Planet, whom the ancients often referred to as the God of War in various languages and different cultures, has 2 small moons: Demos and Phobos. Each is a chunk of oblong rock, one 5 miles across, the other 10 (8 & 16 km). Look up in the night sky. Mars is the star up there which appears slightly yellowish to the eye. Can you see its tiny moons? No? …Can you even discern which point of light is Mars itself?

The first modern telescope was invented in Holland in about 1608. And yet the ancient Greeks somehow knew that Mars had those 2 tiny moons, which they called: Demos and Phobos. This is a clue; another piece in the great puzzle concerning our ancient past. It is unlikely that the Greeks correctly guessed that Mars has precisely two small moons - yet how could they have known this?

If you drive past a half-crushed, burned out automobile sitting alongside a country road you could look and imagine that the denting and burn marks happened slowly, a little each day for several years. But another explanation is that the driver lost control, rolled it, and then it caught fire as he or she barely escaped from the wreck, if lucky. Experience tells you that the latter is probably true. But if you weren’t there to see it happen, perhaps it occurred after it was parked there - very, very slowly - one dent and one burn mark at a time.

The massive cratering on Mars - did it happen slowly over eons, or does it speak of a past catastrophic astral event. We don’t know, we just see the massive surface damage which still exists today.

Saturn’s rings are really orbiting chunks of rocks all along a particular axis. Mute evidence of a past catastrophe. Saturn survived fine. Whatever fragmented and left pieces in its orbit didn’t.

Shoemaker-Levy hit Jupiter in 1994; a succession of astral chunks (dirty snowballs, a mix of ice and/or rocks) which produced a stunning display which was visible even from the Earth.

Pluto is the ninth planet from the Sun, most of the time. For a short time during its 247.7 year orbital period it comes closer to the Sun than Neptune, i.e. Pluto’s orbit is elliptical in shape. Actually though, Pluto should usually be the tenth planet out, but it appears that one is missing.

No one knows what happened which destroyed Electra. Modern scientists have labeled its remains(?) "the asteroid belt" (...as if they've always been there like that - just because that's what we see there now) lying partway between Mars and Jupiter; but these huge orbiting rock fragments may bear mute testimony to some previous astral disaster. There should be a planet between Mars and Jupiter. Instead we find only fragments orbiting at the approximate distance out where a planet "should be" according to Bode’s Law, as proposed by Titus-Bode in the 18th century.

Recently, evolutionists have begun admitting what creationists have known all along - that we live in a dynamic universe. Not slow uninterrupted cycles. Gee, not enough time for evolution - better add a few more million years here and there. The car still isn't running right? Better add some more random car parts to it; given enough time and random changes the automobile should evolve nicely all on its own, according to theory. I remember when the universe was only 4-5 billion years old, according to similarly thought out theories; but now we're supposed to be some 15+ billion years after the Big Bang. Our Moon and Mars show massive impact craters. Other planets have also been hit. Electra is now an "asteroid belt". Saturn's rings may be pretty, but remember how they got there. What caused the Flood?
 
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