Stephen A. Smith Points Out NFL's Paid Patriotism Problem

[tulc]

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

It's a tribute to the NFL's ability to drape itself in the flag that nobody even realizes that – prior to 2009 – players being on the field for the national anthem wasn't even standard practice.

On the plus side: it's nice to see President Trump and his fans whole heartedly supporting one of President Obama's policies.
tulc(MAGA by supporting President Obama)

 

[Saucy]

What does that matter? Obama didn't invent standing for the pledge.

 

[Hank77]

What does that matter? Obama didn't invent standing for the pledge.

Did you read the article? I don't think so considering your response.

 

[Targaryen]

Olbermann did this back in 2013 or 2014 when he was back at ESPN for his second term. Smith's late to the party, as usual.

 

[Saucy]

I did read the article. I always read the article. Why does reading the article mean I have to acknowledge it? I disagree with Tulc's premise and the idea that no NFL players came out prior to 2009.

 

[Targaryen]

I disagree with Tulc's premise and the idea that no NFL players came out prior to 2009.

Came out? You make it sound like were talking about a Pride event here.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Came out? You make it sound like were talking about a Pride event here.

Homosexuality is no longer someone needs to be in the closet about. National pride is.

 

[Targaryen]

Homosexuality is no longer someone needs to be in the closet about. National pride is.

And here we go with running ten feet to a conclusion only to find out it's a brick wall type of opinions.

 

[W Johnson]

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[tulc]

I did read the article. I always read the article. Why does reading the article mean I have to acknowledge it? I disagree with Tulc's premise and the idea that no NFL players came out prior to 2009.

That's true, why let facts get in the way of a President Trump propaganda point? OH! And thanks for supporting President Obama's policy. I'm sure he appreciates it.
tulc(is always happy to see stuff like that)

 

[grasping the after wind]

That's true, why let facts get in the way of a President Trump propaganda point? OH! And thanks for supporting President Obama's policy. I'm sure he appreciates it.
tulc(is always happy to see stuff like that)

I have been opposed to the playing of the national anthem before sporting events for over 20 years now. It simply is not an appropriate place for it. No more so than the beginning of the school day in a classroom is an appropriate place for the Pledge of Allegiance. Of course, I find the idea of a pledge of allegiance completely offensive to begin with. A free citizen ought to be granted the decency of the benefit of the doubt that they support their country and not need to take a pledge. As for the anthem, I felt quite alone as no one especially on the right seemed to agree with me until people started using the occasion to protest. The EX President did many things I disagreed with and this attempt at creating a faux NFL ultra patriotism was no exception then any more than it is now. .

 

[tulc]

(snip) Tulc's (snip)

It's always a lower case "t" on tulc.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

 

[jgarden]

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

On the plus side: it's nice to see President Trump and his fans whole heartedly supporting one of President Obama's policies.
tulc(MAGA by supporting President Obama)

"The Donald" attended a military college and yet received 5 deferments from the military draft during the Vietnam War - how patriotic was that?

 

[Anna Scott]

Wow. This thread went off the rails in a hurry!

 

[ambc]

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem

On the plus side: it's nice to see President Trump and his fans whole heartedly supporting one of President Obama's policies.
tulc(MAGA by supporting President Obama)

Had any of those anti-flag, “black lives matter”-type NFL players been born in Kenya, Nigeria, or some other African nation, they would be poor and hungry, and none of their athletic talents could have developed. Indeed, they would be pining to come to America. But they’re so entitled to such an extent that they think it’s okay to bash the country which made them multimillionaire athletes. They should either salute the US flag or go live in a Third World nation of their dreams.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Diamonds are Africas best friend

 

[ambc]

Diamonds are Africas best friend

So what's your point?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

So what's your point?

I was responding to African Pride and the sparkle thereof.

 

[tulc]

Had any of those anti-flag, “black lives matter”-type NFL players been born in Kenya, Nigeria, or some other African nation, they would be poor and hungry, and none of their athletic talents could have developed. Indeed, they would be pining to come to America. But they’re so entitled to such an extent that they think it’s okay to bash the country which made them multimillionaire athletes. They should either salute the US flag or go live in a Third World nation of their dreams.

I was under the impression US citizens had the right to protest things they don't agree with. Are you saying that's not true?
tulc(thought that was the point of the bill of rights)

 

[ambc]

I was under the impression US citizens had the right to protest things they don't agree with. Are you saying that's not true?
tulc(thought that was the point of the bill of rights)

No, it shouldn't be allowed.