States' Response Stymied by Donald's Refusal to Declare National Emergency

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Trump administration blocks states from using Medicaid to respond to coronavirus crisis
LATimes said:
Despite mounting pleas from California and other states, the Trump administration isn’t allowing states to use Medicaid more freely to respond to the coronavirus crisis by expanding medical services...
But months into the current global disease outbreak, the White House and senior federal health officials haven’t taken the necessary steps to give states simple pathways to fully leverage the mammoth safety net program to prevent a wider epidemic....
During major disasters, CMS has traditionally loosened these rules.
Donald is non-traditional.

Poor people are more likely to use mass transit and to be in service jobs (waitstaff, retail clerk) where they interact with large numbers of people. They are also less likely to get time off, let alone paid time off, if they become mildly ill. They are also less likely to have insurance without a high deductible or, well, at all.

States need to be able to provide health care in a health care crisis.
 

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One fears that, what has all the appearance of inept, incompetent handling of this crisis in the US, will lead to substantially greater disruption and death than need have been the case. If this does transpire may we hope that there will be broader recognition that the US health system is broken and needs a root and branch transformation? Or is there no relationship between the crisis, its mode of handling and the structure of US health provisions?
 
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Trump administration blocks states from using Medicaid to respond to coronavirus crisis

Donald is non-traditional.

Poor people are more likely to use mass transit and to be in service jobs (waitstaff, retail clerk) where they interact with large numbers of people. They are also less likely to get time off, let alone paid time off, if they become mildly ill. They are also less likely to have insurance without a high deductible or, well, at all.

States need to be able to provide health care in a health care crisis.
Is he preventing them from providing healthcare OR is he is he saying the government will not pay for it. There is a difference.
 
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We may yet be deluged with infections but at this time we're actually not in bad shape compared to other countries.
We're like half a mile into a marathon, and the other countries started yesterday. Saying we're not in bad shape now is just straight naivete.
 
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We may yet be deluged with infections but at this time we're actually not in bad shape compared to other countries.
We may not be in better shape if more isn't done to find people who are infected and quarantine them. If Italy had been proactive from their first case they wouldn't be in the shape they are in.

Please look at this article and graph of responses in other countries. Singapore still has fewer cases than we do and their first case was less than 5 days from when the first case was reported in China.

Singapore Wins Praise For Its COVID-19 Strategy. The U.S. Does Not
 
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I read that Trump has declared a national state of emergency, so now states are permitted more resources.
 
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We may not be in better shape if more isn't done to find people who are infected and quarantine them. If Italy had been proactive from their first case they wouldn't be in the shape they are in.

Please look at this article and graph of responses in other countries. Singapore still has fewer cases than we do and their first case was less than 5 days from when the first case was reported in China.

Singapore Wins Praise For Its COVID-19 Strategy. The U.S. Does Not

Of course their infection rate would be smaller. At the first sign of disease they don surgical masks, which is discouraged in the U.S. for some unknown reason. It is the height of irresponsibility to suggest that masks don't reduce the spread of viruses.
 
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I read that Trump has declared a national state of emergency, so now states are permitted more resources.
Yes, I was just watching the news and they said that the President is expected to address the nation and announce the National emergency.
 
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Of course their infection rate would be smaller. At the first sign of disease they don surgical masks, which is discouraged in the U.S. for some unknown reason. It is the height of irresponsibility to suggest that masks don't reduce the spread of viruses.
I agree. They also began testing in large numbers, not just people that already had symptoms.

That's what Hong Kong and Singapore did.


Both quickly set up systems to try to identify and treat every case in their territory. Hong Kong developed diagnostic tests and rapidly deployed them to labs at every major hospital in the city. At one point in February, Hong Kong had 12,000 people in quarantine. Singapore's prime minister called for calm and assured residents that all health care related to the disease would be free.
Singapore Wins Praise For Its COVID-19 Strategy. The U.S. Does Not
 
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Hmmm. I think Trump has an opportunity to trim some of the "useless Americans" out. I wonder if he is going to try to support them and provide for them OR just let them get sick.
Well for the most part for most people this virus is fairly mild; really the people who have the most to worry about are the same people that have to really worry about the flu.
 
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Of course their infection rate would be smaller. At the first sign of disease they don surgical masks, which is discouraged in the U.S. for some unknown reason. It is the height of irresponsibility to suggest that masks don't reduce the spread of viruses.
My understanding is they are discouraging it because they need those masks for healthcare workers and maybe people who otherwise have something to worry about like if they have preexisting conditions.
 
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My understanding is they are discouraging it because they need those masks for healthcare workers and maybe people who otherwise have something to worry about like if they have preexisting conditions.
So do other countries need masks for their healthcare workers, etc.
 
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Well for the most part for most people this virus is fairly mild; really the people who have the most to worry about are the same people that have to really worry about the flu.
Except they have to worry WAY more about Covid.
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And these numbers are gentler than the others I've seen:

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FAR greater chance of death.
 
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So do other countries need masks for their healthcare workers, etc.
I would think so but with the only two exceptions being China ( which is reporting fewer new cases and India other countries have fewer people not to mention we have people that are taking masks that do not need them.
 
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Except they have to worry WAY more about Covid.
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And these numbers are gentler than the others I've seen:

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FAR greater chance of death.
Did not say otherwise I just said that they were the same group of people
 
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Wait two hours - the OP will be yet another useless complaint by the left media to cause fear. It's time they stop using fear to push a political agenda.
Odd that the first post complaining about the virus being politicized is yours...complaining about the virus being politicized.
 
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