Stars science say kicked out of galaxy actually coming in!

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Good question and the answer of course is 'how would we know, we have never been out of the fishbowl'
A ignorant question is not an answer, dad, because we do not need to leave the Solar System! Every confirmed prediction using the local physics on distant observations confirms that we know what happens outside of the Solar System. That is hundreds of thousands or even millions of astronomy papers :doh:.

19 items of empirical evidence that time (and physics) are the same outside of the Solar System as they are inside
 
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Flatworms Are Oldest Living Ancestors To Those Of Us With Right And Left Sides..."

Flatworms Are Oldest Living Ancestors To Those Of Us With Right And Left Sides, Researchers Report In Science
Lots of gibberish about a band and obvious, irrelevant ignorance about what you cite, dad.

There is overwhelming scientific evidence of common ancestry. 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution The Scientific Case for Common Descent here on Earth inside your imaginary "fishbowl".

The ignorance is "a flatworm is one of the oldest creatures we share an ancestor with!!!". Flatworms are the common ancestor of all animals with right and left sides as in the article title.
The last universal common ancestor would be a singe celled animal living 3.5 to 3.8 billion years ago.
 
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Misleading lurkers with an obvious "circular reasoning" lie when it is the cosmic distance ladder, dad.

The science for lurkers:
This is the cosmic distance ladder and its linear reasoning truth.
Rung 1: We use parallax to measure the distance to stars inside this galaxy . Some of these stars are standard candles (Cepheid variable stars).
Rung 2: Those standard candles are then used to measure distances to other galaxies. Some of these galaxies contain standard candles such as Type 1a supernova.
Rung 3: Those standard candles allow the measurement of distances to more distant galaxies.
Each rung builds on the previous rung. We do not use Cepheid variable stars to do parallax measurements. We do not use Type 1a supernova to measure the distances to Cepheid variable stars or do parallax measurements. Thus "circular reasoning" is an obvious lie.

This is a basic list - there are up to 26 "rungs": The ABC's of Distances.

Edwin Hubble famously used Cepheid variable stars to measure the distance to galaxies and measured their redshift. That gave the Hubble–Lemaître law. Add 80 years of measurements and there is an enormous body of evidence that this law is correct. Thus it is a convention in astronomy to write the distances to galaxies as redshifts using the symbol z.

How is it possible to measure astronomical distances using the Doppler effect when the speed of light is always constant, regardless of the source and the observers motion?
Guess you figure some don't know what the cosmic distance latter was?

The first rung involves space and time. You want to say it is just space. Then you want to talk about billions of years. Ho hum
 
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That is ignorance about astronomy, dad.
In 1 year astronomers are teaching people that the Milky Way ejects stars. Astronomers and reasonable people conclude that all galaxies eject stars because they know that the Milky Way is not a extra special galaxy. Thus reasonable people expect stars to arrive in the Milky Way. This reasonable expectation has been confirmed by the observation of stars entering the Milky Way :doh:!

Gaia spots stars flying between galaxies is a surprise that looking for the outgoing stars in the massive Gaia survey found incoming stars.
So it seems they taught the stars were being ejected. Now it seems many are actually getting relected. Oh well I guess it is all good because the words rhyme? Ha.
 
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Lots of gibberish about a band and obvious, irrelevant ignorance about what you cite, dad.

There is overwhelming scientific evidence of common ancestry. 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution The Scientific Case for Common Descent here on Earth inside your imaginary "fishbowl".

The ignorance is "a flatworm is one of the oldest creatures we share an ancestor with!!!". Flatworms are the common ancestor of all animals with right and left sides as in the article title.
The last universal common ancestor would be a singe celled animal living 3.5 to 3.8 billion years ago.
Feel free to do more than spam irrelevant religious links if you want to discuss how science claims man came from icy little weird lifeforms!
 
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Guess you figure some don't know what the cosmic distance latter was?...
Wrong, dad. I am telling lurkers what they already know from your posts. You do not know what the word ladder means (linear not circular) and are lying about the science in the cosmic distance ladder.
 
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Wrong, dad. I am telling lurkers what they already know from your posts. You do not know what the word ladder means (linear not circular) and are lying about the science in the cosmic distance ladder.
Actually your shrill false accusations have no bearing in reality. Check?

Parallax measure does indeed involve space from the solar system here. Would you like to claim no time exists with space here? Ha.
 
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Your malicious religious spam link is too busy preaching to bother showing details apparently.

Such as this quote I see in your link

"Numerous transitional fossils between humans and the great apes have been found in southern and eastern Africa."

It does not say HOW the ape remains are related to humans, but just calls them transitional. The reality of the situation is that there is no evidence man came from apes.

What we see is conflated godless confused insane miscomprehension of what the fossil record really is all about.
 
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The usual obvious lies abut science being religion , etc. that does not need to be addressed again.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution The Scientific Case for Common Descent is science that is relevant to his post.

Still not addressed ignorant statement on what he cited in his post (it is common ancestor of bilateral animals, not "one of the oldest creatures"). Not even a "whoops, I misread the science"!

No addressing his repetition of ignorance about Doppler shift which has no distance in it as he, dad, stated. Not really accurate. It should be
dad has an ignorant fantasy that the speed measured by Doppler shift needs distances.

For others:
dad wrote an ignorant fantasy of "Apparently science interprets the red shifting to mean stars mostly are going out....".
I mistakenly thought dad understood his OP and the science and wrote: What would change would be the magnitude of the speed calculated for the stars from their Doppler shift.
dad replied with "The speed...based on assumed distances and sizes" ignorance.
I stated the textbook physics about Doppler shift on 26 November 2018.
dad repeated the ignorance that distances are needed.
No distances and sizes are needed for Doppler shift.

Reading the paper gives the actual method to get total velocities
The Gaia catalogue provides parallaxes, and thus a conversion to a distance is required to convert the apparent motion of an object n the celestial sphere to a physical motion in space, that is needed to determine the total velocity of a star.

Misleading lurkers with an obvious "circular reasoning" lie when it is the cosmic distance ladder.
 
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Actually your shrill false accusations....
Insults and a lie about what he wrote abut the cosmic distance ladder which was: Misleading lurkers with an obvious "circular reasoning" lie when it is the cosmic distance ladder.

This post has an ignorant fantasy about what I have stated and cited about parallax many times in a few threads. One more time:
Parallax is one of the linear steps in the cosmic distance ladder. Parallax is basic geometry. Everyone knows that an object will shift against a distant background when viewed from 2 different points in space, e.g. an outstretched thumb against distant trees viewed fro 1 eye and then the other eye. Astronomers use this basic geometry to measure the distance to stars, e.g. by measuring that angle on either side of the Earth's orbit.
 
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What do your measurements, readings and analyses suggest these stars will do?

Measurements and analyses are for suckers. Truth is knowable to a few select beings visiting us on earth. You have no right to even question them.

So stop it.

Just soak in the erudition.
 
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Look you do not even know what a star is. Your idea of what stars are and where they came from is bad religion.

I know what a star is. This is a star:

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Competing explanation is that The universe is set in motion and controlled by God, with good reasons for things. Reasons that involve earth, which is the place God is coming to live forever. Reasons that involve man, for whom God set the stars in the sky.

Reasons for things. That's usually how most scientific papers should end. Conclusion: things happen for reasons.

I like the idea that God is going to come to earth to live here forever. It's a good neighborhood. He might have to pay the HOA fee, but that's OK. (Just so long as he doesn't play any loud music!)

Finding out repeatedly that the foolish and godless models of so called science are so wrong that they are in some cases the opposite of reality shows us that their alternate creation explanations have been wrong.

Whenever I model data I always include GOD in there. It can turn a model that doesn't fit the data AT ALL suddenly fit it if I throw in the "God Spline" there.

Here's a model without the GOD FACTOR (black line) and one WITH the God Factor (Blue). Note how the error on any given data point drops to ZERO with the God Factor!

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We clear?

As clear as the diamond at the center of the planet.
 
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