I suppose one of you will turn out to be "right" at the expense of the rest of us. 2nd Timothy 2:14: Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 2;16 I'm going shun profane (unsanctified) and vain babblings; for they will increase unto more ungodliness 2:17 and their word will eat as doth a canker (meaning gangrene).
I suppose I've done all I can. You're on your own. Good luck "winning" this important argument.
The spirit of God will reveal all truth
eventually to all [Joel 2:28, John 16:13], all will know the inevitable future in due course , but for now only a few can follow the strait narrow way of sainthood in this life [ Matt 14:7, 2 Timothy 2:19 ,Matthew 7:23]
Many will be saved [Rev 7:9-10] but few find the way of perfect love now , so it is God who makes the saints, faith that defeats Satan so men stop sinning comes by being sealed by God's one spirit of all truth , it is a gift , not a belief in what sinners say as in diverse religious traditions...
Until then we ave the few words of God through the saints and prophets and Jesus...
My point is that religion ignores most of the words, even to not even including all the words of Christ in its faith in sinners' spin upon the scripture...
we KNOW the scripture is not of any spin , we KNOW religion is divided, we can at least accept all the scripture IF we say we believe in it, but religion does nt do this because the message would be [and is] unpopular to the ironic point that even here at CF , those who appeal to the words of Jesus can be treated as 'heretics' to tradition , hounded into corners out of sight , even ostracised and banned , I have seen it happen many times to friends ... in the NAME [only] of love ... this truly is not Jesus' way ,buut it is the way of religion predicted by Jesus for this planet for now...
This censorship of discussion will give way to even more Draconian means before the antichrist takes full control of the world and dictates world religion to an impressed humanity, opposed not by any sinner, but by the few saints yet alive by then...
The saints had but one purpose for now in this earth, to reach a remnant few of the lost House of Israel and trigger their coming to faith by means of God through spreading the real gospel ,underlined by Paul, of the new covenant
with those whose fathers broke the old covenant Heb 8:8-13, Jer 31:31-34]
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with
their fathers ..
hat one word 'their' alone demolishes the whole basis of modern Christianity by means of the bible , showing the deceit in tradition of men, of sinners.
the new covenant of Grace is with those whose fathers broke the old covenant, and they were rejected, but now are unconditionally forgiven... no-one else is mentioned in the new covenant for the very good reason that the few are to be kings and priests who minister to the many, one does not need everyone as kings and priests!
Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a
kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the
children of Israel.
For sake of showing His power by prophesying the end from the beginning, God simply has to state who will be His priests and kings under the king [Messiah, Christ] of kings ... those people are the descendants of Israel , children of the tribes that Jesus confirms are the only ones sealed under the new covenant [Rev 7:3-8] ... The OT and NT agree as one , as they must to be the ONE word of God, but neither Jews nor Christians , as sinners, accept every word of God yet , nor could it seems , divisio between and within religions because men believe sinners and ignore the words of saints!
It makes no sense whatever to believe sinners and ignore the saints, yet it is worldwide , religion is divided and so almost all simply cannot be true ... goa step further and compare it to the scripture and one finds no denomination is true to scripture, they are all mies away from even following the new covenant , do not understand even the only reason Jesus gave for first coming :
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.
Is that not bizarre that most who call themselves 'Christian' have never read and understood what Jesus said was his only reason for being here as a man? Does it not make one want to seek the reason from scripture why almost the whole of modern 'christian' religion has clearly gone astray from what it pretends to believe in ?
Is it not worth discussing then , until God tells us all the whole truth ?