Spiritual skills.

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An unbeliever can quit sin, be nice,know the bible, follow the good ways,follow the law, follow Jesus's footsteps, have a christian vernacular, quit drinking,quit smoking,love others, go to church and many other 'good' things.

If an unbeliever can do it......It is not spiritual.

What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?
 

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Confessing that they are a sinner whose only hope is in the life, death, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
That is what an unbeliever needs to do.

What are the spiritual skills a believer needs to know to advance in Gods plan AFTER salvation?
 
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What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?
They can't produce "divine" good ....

They need to be born again. Do what the Father says to do. Simply.
 
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Gr8Grace said:
What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?
They can't produce "divine" good ....

They need to be born again. Do what the Father says to do. Simply.
 
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An unbeliever can quit sin, be nice,know the bible, follow the good ways,follow the law, follow Jesus's footsteps, have a christian vernacular, quit drinking,quit smoking,love others, go to church and many other 'good' things.

If an unbeliever can do it......It is not spiritual.

What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?
Faith in God to cover your Sin nature is the only requirement.
Belief that Jesus did enough.
 
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Faith in God to cover your Sin nature is the only requirement.
Belief that Jesus did enough.
Yes. Totally agreed for salvation. But what about after salvation? What are the spiritual skills we need to learn to mature as believers?
 
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Yes. Totally agreed for salvation. But what about after salvation? What are the spiritual skills we need to learn to mature as believers?

That...is an awesome question. It deserves time and contemplation.
 
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An unbeliever can quit sin, be nice,know the bible, follow the good ways,follow the law, follow Jesus's footsteps, have a christian vernacular, quit drinking,quit smoking,love others, go to church and many other 'good' things.

If an unbeliever can do it......It is not spiritual.

What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?

Well let's put it this way. They need to be born again in their spirit and be made a new creature in Christ Jesus. 2 Cor 5:17

In regard to what an unbeliever can do which seems to mimic a receiver of God's grace just consider a human can meow like a cat but such doesn't mean they're one. You don't try to be a "new creature in Christ" with the life of God within. You either are one or you're not.
 
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Gr8Grace said:
What are the Spiritual skills a believer needs to know before they can produce DIVINE good?
None. Believers cannot produce divine good.
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Unbelievers pray.
What are the principles believers know about prayer that unbelievers cannot do?
Usually none.
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Well let's put it this way. They need to be born again in their spirit and be made a new creature in Christ Jesus. 2 Cor 5:17
What spiritual skills does a believer need to learn and know? An unbeliever needs to be born-again.

In regard to what an unbeliever can do which seems to mimic a receiver of God's grace just consider a human can meow like a cat but such doesn't mean they're one. You don't try to be a "new creature in Christ" with the life of God within. You either are one or you're not.
Which is my point. If an unbeliever can 'produce' and mimic things that we think a Christian should produce.....It is not Spiritual and divine good.

What are the Spiritual skills we need to advance as believers? Unbelievers need to believe His gospel for their salvation.
 
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Yes. Totally agreed for salvation. But what about after salvation? What are the spiritual skills we need to learn to mature as believers?
We need to listen to the Holy Spirit and follow His directions
 
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None. Believers cannot produce divine good.
Not true. It is THE command for believers after salvation.

New American Standard Bible
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

agathos: good
Original Word: ἀγαθός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: agathos
Phonetic Spelling: (ag-ath-os')
Definition: good
Usage: intrinsically good, good in nature, good whether it be seen to be so or not, the widest and most colorless of all words with this meaning.

Usually none.
Well, I would beg that you take a look at all the religions of the world. They pray.........And fervently.
 
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Not true. It is THE command for believers after salvation.

New American Standard Bible
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
Totally true - good works, we are HIS POEM (btw), DAILY....
Good works are not DIVINE GOOD. (unless you redefined it today for this thread)
 
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