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I've never worked with guides, myself. I work with the Gods, certainly, and had spiritual experiences, but I've never looked for nor felt I needed a guide.

If you do and your experiences are positive, I'd say keep doing what you're doing. If not, then stop doing it. It's that simple. For myself, I treat "negative spirits" like Balinese demons and ignore them rather than give them energy and power by dwelling on them.
 
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Wow! I just checked in here, and wish I had more time to respond, but have to run to work.

I guess I would like to add something. I believe the bible is a sacred text, and that it is one of many in the world. I believe Jesus was a great teacher, and a powerful spirit sent out of love to the world. But I absolutely believe there are as many ways to God/dess as there are people in the world.

If what a guide teaches is supported (in essence) by the holy books of the world-love, peace, tolerance, forgiveness-then how can that be considered evil? This is what my guides have been teaching me all my life. This is what they have supported me with when I needed it.

Sigh.

I have to run to work, but I'll write more when I get back :)

Blessings!!

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"But I absolutely believe there are as many ways to God/dess as there are people in the world."

Well,
You would be against this then.
John 14:6
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

BTW- Jesus was not just a great teacher.
Jesus Christ IS God.
 
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Back in India, there is a belief in subtle beings, I guess you could call them spirits. There are some very strange instances regarding Nagas, subtle beings related to serpents in our realm. They become very offended when cobras are killed, and there are some... strange... instances dealing with these Nagas.

I don't know too much about the subject, but I guess I do believe in these spirits.

One interesting incident comes to mind... There is a great Hindu saint, Ammachi, who comes to the US every year, and a few years ago, She was in New Mexico. Her devotees noticed that She did not get a wink of sleep one night. The next morning, they asked Her about it, and she said that the whole night was spent in giving blessings to some strange subtle beings. When asked about their appearance, She said they had the torso of animals, and the legs of humans. By coincidence, the hotel owner, a Native American, knew about these beings. They are called Kachinas by the Hopis and other tribes of the area. Remember the Saint was from a South Indian village... there was no way she could have known about these beings. But the beings recognized Her divinity, and flocked to Her for Her blessings.
 
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Originally posted by Opalina

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Wow! I just checked in here, and wish I had more time to respond, but have to run to work.

I guess I would like to add something. I believe the bible is a sacred text, and that it is one of many in the world. I believe Jesus was a great teacher, and a powerful spirit sent out of love to the world. But I absolutely believe there are as many ways to God/dess as there are people in the world.

I see that you have not met the real Jesus Christ. He surely does not agree with you.

If what a guide teaches is supported (in essence) by the holy books of the world-love, peace, tolerance, forgiveness-then how can that be considered evil? This is what my guides have been teaching me all my life. This is what they have supported me with when I needed it.

Are we to use your standards to discern what love, peace, tolerance and forgiveness are? Should I also randomly choose a holy text and just follow it and have a god bless that too? I am asking the questions to help you think about what you are advocating by your loose statements.

Evil at one of its most simple levels is the absence of God's righteousness. It is a noncompliance to God's standards. It does not matter if you outright refuse to keep His standards or if you tried your best but yet failed. In God's eyes, you still failed because you lowered the standard by your noncompliance and made your standard the new means of justification.

No longer can you see yourself being judged by God's standards; you see yourself judged by yours with God's blessings. This is the act that Christians call selfrighteousness. Selfrighteousness can be very subtle and misleading as a Christian can attest. It leads you away from God and back to yourself. That is evil. Why? It goes against God. Simple enough?


Yes. We both are sighing.
 
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Are you serious? I find this very hard to believe. Why haven't i ever seen spirits like this? I would be interested to know more about the spirits people have seen. I've never seen any spirits like starcrystal says she saw...

Umm, its he not she :) Anyways, I don't understand why people sometimes have such a hard time beleiving that others have had experiences they haven't had.
For one, I am open to accepting the spirit world, and also have a spiritual & physical makeup that allows for perhaps more communication. The Bible teaches each have their gift and some of those gifs include revelation things like prophecy, word of knowledge and discernment of spirits. Some people have the gift of healing. I wish I did, but I don't.
Secondly, some of these visions are purely in the spirit, while some (fewer) ones are visible to the physical eyes, such as the Buffalo vision when I was a child. That was a solid 3-D manifestation. The ones I can only percieve in spirit confirm their presence either by actions, knowledge given, or a prophecy/prediction that proves true.
I've even been able to get a couple of photos of strange things. One is a UFO and the other is a gnome like creature in the woods.
If you read the Bible you'll see some of those people had far greater visions & manifestations than any of mine. Look at daniel, or Johns visions in Revelation. Check out Ezekiel 1 and 10. THOSE are awesome. Things I've seen are only the tip of a huge spiritual iceberg....
 
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Starcrystal said:
I've even been able to get a couple of photos of strange things. One is a UFO and the other is a gnome like creature in the woods.
If you read the Bible you'll see some of those people had far greater visions & manifestations than any of mine. Look at daniel, or Johns visions in Revelation. Check out Ezekiel 1 and 10. THOSE are awesome. Things I've seen are only the tip of a huge spiritual iceberg....
Sorry about the she thing. My bad. Can you post those photos on this thread? i'd love to see them.
 
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Proud Hindu said:
Back in India, there is a belief in subtle beings, I guess you could call them spirits. There are some very strange instances regarding Nagas, subtle beings related to serpents in our realm. They become very offended when cobras are killed, and there are some... strange... instances dealing with these Nagas.

I don't know too much about the subject, but I guess I do believe in these spirits.

One interesting incident comes to mind... There is a great Hindu saint, Ammachi, who comes to the US every year, and a few years ago, She was in New Mexico. Her devotees noticed that She did not get a wink of sleep one night. The next morning, they asked Her about it, and she said that the whole night was spent in giving blessings to some strange subtle beings. When asked about their appearance, She said they had the torso of animals, and the legs of humans. By coincidence, the hotel owner, a Native American, knew about these beings. They are called Kachinas by the Hopis and other tribes of the area. Remember the Saint was from a South Indian village... there was no way she could have known about these beings. But the beings recognized Her divinity, and flocked to Her for Her blessings.
Hi!

I've never heard of the Nagas, but it sounds very interesting. I'm going to look into it. I'm not really aware of animal spirits or guides, so I'll check it out! I have heard of the Kachina. They are spirits that visit the living and go into dancers.

Interesting story about Ammachi! I've been hearing a lot about her the last month or so. Her name keeps coming up in my life! This would be about the 4th time :) I would like to know more about her, or get a hug one day!

Blessings!

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Starcrystal said:
For awhile I was involved in a baptist church, and some very legalistic pentecostal churches. Those "blinders" (scales) that the apostle Paul had removed from his eyes seemed to cover the spiritual eyes of MANY in those churches.

From the age of 19 to 23 I practiced satanism, Crowley rituals, Wicca, Key of Solomon, and some homemade rituals combining all of them together. I KNOW what demons are Holly! I invoked them, evoked them, called them & banished them. I saw some wierd and powerful things happen.

I've been saved almost 20 years and I can tell you I do not call or seek familiar spirits. That WOULD be wrong. But when a spirit COMES TO YOU and initiates contact, we should then TEST the spirit. It goes beyond having the spirit admit Chist is Lord because demons can and will admit that. They must admit that they are servants or obediant to Gods will.

I had a very large blonde angelic come to me early last year and accuse me of being a false prophet. the dude would have wieghed 300 pounds in the natural and built like a professional wrestler. His tone of speach & accusation was such I KNEW it was not from God. I spun on the spirit and said "False Jesus! I command you to leave in the name of Jesus!" The big oaf stumbled backwards into my bathroom, tripped over the bathtub and shattered into what appeared to be blue glassy dust. I then proceded to run water in my bathtub to rid the place of any residual negative energies left by the evil spirit.

Bottom line is, it is SATAN who is the accuser of the brethren. That "angel" lied and accused. If he was true I would not have prevailed. I'd have been staggering myself and slumping into the wall as I did when a spirit named Maia came before. One was of God, the other wasn't. You CAN discern and tell the difference.

Please don't be stuck in a box like religious view that doesn't allow for things that the scriptures approve & explain if we would ask God for help understanding & dealing with them.
Thank you!:clap: It sounds like you have had a lot of experiences, and I really appreciate hearing about them! I think having experiences is almost necessary to discernment.

I have tested the spirits that have come to me (and just for the record, I've never actually called for any spirit-they have come to me with something to share on their own.) in my own way. For myself, I do not acknowledge negative spirits at all. I give them nothing. I think I get better at that with age :)


Blessings!

Opalina
 
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Christ-Aficionado, here's the link to the gnome pic. I don't think we put the UFO one on the web, or if it is its buried on a UK alien site back in May.
http://arwensoracle.tripod.com/arwensoracle.tripod.com/id3.html

Thanks Opalina, it is important to test the spirits....

As me & my wife were discussing earlier, I think God can be discovered through other paths. We need to consider in the book of Acts the apostle Paul walks right into the middle of Mars Hill, a PAGAN temple area (Oh my! What on earth was he DOING THERE?? :scratch:) He saw an altar to the "UNKNOWN GOD" and proceded to use that pagan altar to explain about Jesus Christ. So even legalistic Paul used pagan altars to teach about God. And it was God who ultimately set up the whole situation.... Today our church leaders would freak out if one of their members went to a pagan place, because they'd say "be separate, its unclean... blah blah blah..."
 
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Opalina said:
Hi!

I'm new to this forum, and working with spirit guides/beings is part of what I believe.

I've heard the bible regards this as evil. I've also heard it can be considered a spiritual gift. (Obviously, I believe the latter!) :) I would be interested in hearing what Christians believe about this, and why it is considered wrong.

Thanks!!

Opalina
This is particularly interesting to me both as a Christian and as someone who is a descendant of a person with this gift. My mom as a child use to see 'forms' which use to make her feel cold and very afraid. My niece feels a presence next to her, just out of sight but when she turns around it goes. I think this is something which comes from my mother's side. So, I'm not dismissive of this science.

Whilst I don't consider the gift itself as evil, I do accept that according to G-d it is not a practice we should do. In its simplest form, my G-d says don't do it and I obey - not because of fear of punishment but because I love Him as a daughter loves her father and therefore trusts completely what He says to her.

Bottom line G-d is all knowing and all knowledgeable - if He says 'don't go there' I trust His judgement and will obey :) .
 
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I will merely sigh resignedly, and say that in my experience no good has ever come of following spirit guides in my opinion, and that some are merely imagination, some are perhaps demonic, and a lot are hokum. Spirit Guides have no placein Wicca or most Pagan traditions, though they are key to most worldwide Shamanist traditions, however the contemporary understanding of them is entirely influenced and coloured by Allan Kardec's Spiritism and modern Spiritualism. I suppose you could argue taht the Holy Guardian Angel of Levi wasa Spirit Guide, but I personally see the influence of Blavatsky's theosophy throughout the whole late 19th/20th century Hermetic Tradition.

Really though, all you need to know, is, forget it. The only Spirit worthy of praise and giver of wisdom i sthe Holy spirit, in my opinion. I will debat ethis if you really want, but I am loathe to get in to a long discussion... :(

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i've always believed that we are assigned angels at birth - to keep us on the right life path (its a blueprint of things we are to learn and experience) that God has has assigned and to protect us from harm. I was always taught that this angel stays with us until we die and escorts us back to heaven.

i guess that could be construed as a "guide". (I've always thought that's what people meant).
 
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UMP said:
Sorry,
I don't think so.

John 14:6
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Pretty big words, I know. Yet, I believe them because Jesus Christ IS God.
Assuming those are Christ's words.

(don't try to argue, facts are facts: you are assuming, as there's no proof)
 
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