Spicer Resigns

[Go Braves]

No you guys love putting words and meanings in his mouth he didn't mean. Been doing it since day one all in an attempt to call him racist and bigot and every other mean word in the leftist vocabulary.

She quoted exactly what he said. You got your britches in a bunch & insisted that what he meant wasn't what he said.

 

[Saucy]

Once again, for the folks at home, the quote is:
"Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated."

Please, do demonstrate for everyone the mental gymnastics that you had to put yourself through to turn that into something else.

He's saying that healthcare is more difficult than anyone thinks it is. With all the hate and pressure put on Trump to get this perfect and within 6 months when it took the democrats 17 months of debate, amendments, and back-and-forth, you guys aren't being fair at all.

The GOP told him they would have a bill ready on his desk day one. He believed them. That's what happened. And now, every flub they have with this reflects negatively on Trump. So, when the press and others question him about the progress, he says, "Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

 

[Saucy]

In my mind, he's saying it's much more difficult than he thought it would be because it's more complex than he thought it would be. You can't give him an inch? That maybe candidate Trump didn't know things that now President Trump knows? This is the journey of EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT, but again, you guys aren't being fair at all. 8 years of passes to Obama, but Trump misspeaks on one thing and people are ready to jump and call him an idiot.

 

[wing2000]

Jay Carney resigned after three years to spend time with his children while they were little. I hardly think it's the same thing.

"Spicer's resignation on Friday means his run as the president's spokesman was among the briefest ever. Each of the five men who held the position for less time than Spicer had his term truncated by special circumstances."

[As an aside, I would consider serving Pres Trump to be a 'special circumstance' as well...]


Roger Tubby (33 days) and Jake Siewert (111 days) were post-election fill-ins under lame-duck presidents — Harry Truman and Bill Clinton, respectively.

Jonathan Daniels (19 days) had just taken over for the iron man of press secretaries, Stephen T. Early (4,403 days), when Franklin Roosevelt died in office. Harry Truman briefly brought back Early on an interim basis before naming his own press secretary, Charles Ross.
Jerald terHorst (30 days) was Gerald Ford's pick after Richard Nixon resigned in 1974. When Ford pardoned Nixon for all Watergate-related crimes, terHorst quit in protest.
James Brady (69 days) was shot in the head during an assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan in 1981. He survived but never returned to the post.

Spicer would have had to hang in for significantly longer to move to seventh on the list. The next-shortest tenure for any other press secretary belongs to George Reedy, who served Lyndon Johnson for 476 days. The 30 press secretaries who preceded Spicer served an average of 1,062 days — almost three years.

Analysis | Sean Spicer’s tenure as White House press secretary was historically short

 

[wing2000]

Quite frankly, I don't know why Trump bothers with a press secretary.

 

[Desk trauma]

Quite frankly, I don't know why Trump bothers with a press secretary.

I recall him saying something about doing it himself. Oh please do Mr president!

 

[mark kennedy]

Yeah, that's exactly the reason. Wink, wink. Obama had a habit of firing people who didn't agree with him, like the almost 200 generals and other top military people who simply disagreed with his assessment on things.

The count I'm getting is nine generals, the supposed list of 200 names has floated around on alt-right tabloid type political sites for a while now.

The longer list comprises 200 names over the entire armed forces, from admirals and generals to individual ship commanders. It’s full of names, but no information as to why they were removed from their posts. (Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?)
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This is what's wrong with the alt-right, grossly inaccurate statements that do not square with reality:

• Major General Michael Carey He was relieved in October 2013 for his conduct on a July trip to Moscow, where he went on what news reports called a “drunken bender
• Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, relieved of duty in September 2013, following an investigation into his use of fake casino chips in a poker game. This is a class D felony in Iowa, where StratCom is located.
• Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon, Jr., found that he had misused his position and forced subordinate officers to perform personal tasks. Huntoon was given a letter of reprimand, allowed to resign from his post and took his mandatory retirement the next month. (Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?)

The list goes on, he didn't go around firing generals for disagreeing with him. That's pure alt-right propaganda, unsupported by the facts.

 

[essentialsaltes]

As much as I dislike my representative, sometimes she gets it right.

 

[CitizenD]

Just because someone gets replaced doesn't mean they're horrible or bad.

Wait. Spicer was replaced?

I think that's another piece of evidence toward Trump not asking Spicer to resign: where's the replacement?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Maybe it's the staff's incompetence?

Wasn't one of Donald's big selling points during the campaign that, since he wasn't a career establishment politician, he would surround himself with the best and brightest to help him?

Maybe it's about time the guy who picked the staff took a little responsibility... you surround yourself with sycophants, don't be surprised when they can't actually do anything except grovel.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Those with any self-respect and integrity will resign.

Leaving Donald to wallow in the swamp of his own making.

 

[hislegacy]

God's very best to Mr Spicer Thank you for your service

 

[LoAmmi]

In my mind, he's saying it's much more difficult than he thought it would be because it's more complex than he thought it would be. You can't give him an inch? That maybe candidate Trump didn't know things that now President Trump knows? This is the journey of EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT, but again, you guys aren't being fair at all. 8 years of passes to Obama, but Trump misspeaks on one thing and people are ready to jump and call him an idiot.

I don't get you. I wish I did, but I really don't.

Trump said in multiple interviews that he had a great plan, a plan that would cover everybody and would be much better than it was now. Not that Ryan and McConnell had told him about their plan. Trump had a plan. We now see that an empty sheet of paper probably is a more complex plan than he had at the time.

In May Trump said "in a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care.” Recently he gave interviews where he didn't seem to understand the basics of healthcare. So, not only does he not understand everything there is to know about health care, he's demonstrating that he might not know anything there is to know about healthcare.

This isn't about people not giving Trump an inch, this is about you having no limit to how much you will give the President. Had Trump not made his claims about knowing so much and having such a great plan, then I'd be more willing to give him a pass on a lack of knowledge. This is the same man who said he knew better than our generals on how to defeat ISIS and he had a plan to defeat the within thirty days. He said this on multiple occasions. This isn't like one instance of him misspeaking. Does Trump know more about defeating ISIS than the generals do? Did Trump defeat ISIS within thirty days?

This is Trump's pattern of behavior. Claim he knows more about something than everybody else and state he'll fix it better than anybody ever could, then demonstrate that he has less knowledge about it than most average people and have no ability to fix it at all. Yes, I know a bunch of you are happy because he hasn't forgotten his talking points from the campaign, but the fact is that on the big stuff he has a knowledge gap larger than the Solar system.

But, still, you give him a free pass on a lack of knowledge because... well, I don't really know why. It seems more like a religious following than a political one.

 

[bhsmte]

I don't get you. I wish I did, but I really don't.

Trump said in multiple interviews that he had a great plan, a plan that would cover everybody and would be much better than it was now. Not that Ryan and McConnell had told him about their plan. Trump had a plan. We now see that an empty sheet of paper probably is a more complex plan than he had at the time.

In May Trump said "in a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care.” Recently he gave interviews where he didn't seem to understand the basics of healthcare. So, not only does he not understand everything there is to know about health care, he's demonstrating that he might not know anything there is to know about healthcare.

This isn't about people not giving Trump an inch, this is about you having no limit to how much you will give the President. Had Trump not made his claims about knowing so much and having such a great plan, then I'd be more willing to give him a pass on a lack of knowledge. This is the same man who said he knew better than our generals on how to defeat ISIS and he had a plan to defeat the within thirty days. He said this on multiple occasions. This isn't like one instance of him misspeaking. Does Trump know more about defeating ISIS than the generals do? Did Trump defeat ISIS within thirty days?

This is Trump's pattern of behavior. Claim he knows more about something than everybody else and state he'll fix it better than anybody ever could, then demonstrate that he has less knowledge about it than most average people and have no ability to fix it at all. Yes, I know a bunch of you are happy because he hasn't forgotten his talking points from the campaign, but the fact is that on the big stuff he has a knowledge gap larger than the Solar system.

But, still, you give him a free pass on a lack of knowledge because... well, I don't really know why. It seems more like a religious following than a political one.

Nice summary of reality.

Folks, Trump is who he is and he isn't going to change anytime soon. The best predictor of future behavior, is past behavior. Trump has been an off the charts narcissist and this has been on full display for anyone paying attention for decades. His behavior is highly predictable:

-He is awsome
-He is not to be held accountable for any screw ups
-People who agree with him are complimented
-People who disagree with him are attacked, like a 9 year old would attack someone who stole their lollipop

Rinse, repeat, rinse repeat...................................................

 

[super animator]

But, still, you give him a free pass on a lack of knowledge because... well, I don't really know why. It seems more like a religious following than a political one.

Cult of personality.

 

[Vylo]

Maybe it's the staff's incompetence?

The stars and moon have aligned and we agree on this.

Spicer was awful. Trump should have fired him ages ago.

 

[bhsmte]

The stars and moon have aligned and we agree on this.

Spicer was awful. Trump should have fired him ages ago.

Spicey was put in a difficult position, but he also lacked the skills to be in the position. This reality, made things look pretty bad.

 

[mark46]

Or be fired. We will see how long Sessions lasts for having the audacity to recuse himself.

and Priebus

 

[mark46]

Spicey was put in a difficult position, but he also lacked the skills to be in the position. This reality, made things look pretty bad.

What skills are those? It is virtually impossible to say anything near the truth on a regular basis, AND please the audience of one.

 

[bhsmte]

What skills are those? It is virtually impossible to say anything near the truth on a regular basis, AND please the audience of one.

The skill of being able to stay calm, deflect when necessary and sound convincing. He didn't have it.