Kathryn Jensen said:
I admit, though I believe that "the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous," I am unsure how I feel about Creflo Dollar feeling he needs a 65 million dollar plane paid for my contributions. LOL Do I think God has a problem with him having a 65 million dollar plane? No. But, WOW, what we could do with 65 million. This is where my double standard steps in. I don't know how I feel just yet. lol If people send money in designated for the purchase of the plane, then fine. I don't know.
Either way, I do know where you are coming from. Man has always gotten out of balance. It's the nature of the beast. But, we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We glean the truths and throw the rest away. "I wish above all else that you would prosper and be in health, even as your soul prospers." Peace, Shalom: wholeness spiritually, mentally and emotionally, financially, and physically. It's God's way.
Good overall post...
As far as Creflo "needing" or "wanting" THIS particular jet it remains to be seen what actually takes place. We seen an article recently where the church board approved this purchase. We'll wait and see how that turns out to see (if the article is even true). I pray that he has determined in his HEART to put God first even before his own self. If that's his pure motive than God's BLESSING will not only come upon him... but will overtake him (Deut. 28:10).
You are right though that MAN has always gotten out of balance... whether they are rich or poor. The out of balance affects both whether it's prosperity mentality or having a poverty mentality.
Kenneth E. Hagins book... "The Midas Touch" explains in detail of a balanced scriptural approach to prosperity. Hagin said that he observed many teachings and practices that have both helped and hindered the Body of Christ. In virtually every biblical subject, there is a main road of truth with a ditch of error on either side of the road. Some are having great difficulty staying in the middle of the road when it comes to prosperity. I think we've all been there one time or another in some areas of our faith. And we've all probably veered off one side or the other in our thinking.
God is NOT against wealth and prosperity and he wants us all to prosper financially. But He is against people being covetous or having wrong motives. I would recommend Hagin's book to everyone to learn about a scriptural balanced approach to being prosperous. The book can be purchased on Amazon, or... one may be able to download a pdf version from the net.
Be Blessed to be a BLessing...
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hhodgson,
1. It is true that God is not against wealth for he blessed many people such as Abraham and Job who were very wealthy. Their wealth came because of not trying to get from God but being faithful in their service by faith and trusting and living and being true to God.
2. The old testament of sowing and reaping was agricultural in which one seed would produce within itself one plant. There was also sowing spiritually as well and it was connected to the blessing and cursing system. They had to do something to attain something.
3. In Jesus day it changed to sowing the message of the kingdom and what was reaped was the result of the message. The 30, 60, 90, and 100 fold was all about the sowing the message of the kingdom of heaven which was the earthly kingdom the jews were promised through the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants. The reaping was the result of that message.
4. In the early church one can see the message sown and the result of the message which is not the kingdom of heaven message and not about doing something to attain something. It is all about what Christ did according to the cross and his resurrection message.
5. Paul had the Corinthians to sow bountifully so they could help the poor saints in Jerusalem not for the things of the church. Paul personally did not receive tithes for his salary. He did not choose any money for his labor even though he could have for the labor is worthy of his hire.
6. I really see no scripture that actually sows money to reap money. Paul did sow the message and reaped carnal things in some instances.
7. Abraham gave a tithe and it was not mandatory. God loves a cheerful giver and really if we give out of love we will give more than the tithe. At the same time I understand about supporting the church. Many in the past used tithing as a doctrine of fear by using Malachi. The context of Malachi was the priests corrupting the temple and Israel robbing God of the tithe that was mandatory according to their covenant.
8. Paul said in Romans 8 that God gave his son freely so that he may give us all things freely.
Stewardship is a factor in giving because of what Christ did and not what we do. The difference could be in legalistic or free in love; which results in wrong or right motive.
9. My dad preached Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland and I would not necessarily indict them of not being a christian for I believed they are saved. Both of them are mostly accused of following E.W. Kenyon's basic principles which were supposedly metaphysical teachings.
10. I think they may have not been perfect in many things but I do believe they learned many things and have been successful because of faith and a real relationship with God. Another words some things might have been construed by some who may have got lost in principles and forgot about relationship and stewardship. I would agree that there are those who God can trust with handling of money and it does take money to do things and we do know our source is God and the object is faith in what he did on the cross. Normally, if people are teaching you what to do legalistically is what results. It is through the message of the cross and the resurrected Lord that we have provision. Thinking out loud. Jerry kelso