South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land without compensation

[Paidiske]

Meanwhile, nowhere in your list of "social justice" (which often should be termed "mercy" and "grace" rather than "justice") causes do i see any concern or priority to the poorest of the world, as in Africa, and the persecuted Christians, such as in militant Muslim and Communist countries, and other places, which evangelical ministries (such as Barnabas Aid, Persecution Project, Voice of the Martyrs, Samaritan's Purse, etc.) work to help. Far more efficiently than any gov. agency.

That's because Ana specifically asked me about Australia. I do also support international aid. (In fact, I've just persuaded some of the members of the parish to spend an afternoon packing safe birthing kits for third world countries).

I think it's a both/and situation. Of course we can and should work outside what governments do. But as some of the most powerful institutions in the world, I think it's right to expect governments to use that power to intervene for good, also.

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

Whatever you might think of race relations in South Africa, this certainly looks like another step towards becoming a failed state. Rampant crime that can't be controlled, a corrupt ex-PM who has stolen tens of millions, a city of roughly half a million people runs out of water and now, farms will likely go the same way as Zimbabwe leading to food shortages

Blacks in Africa want what white people have. In Zimbabwe, they stole farms from the whites there and gave them to blacks who couldn't run them. Then Zimbabwe went from being a food-exporting country to being a basket case that relies on hand-outs from the UN to avoid mass starvation. Looks like South Africa is heading in that direction.

Had whites been using the government to steal from blacks, there would be international outcry. But when blacks are the perpetrators and whites are the victims, no one in the mainstream media says anything.

 

[SolomonVII]

Blacks in Africa want what white people have. In Zimbabwe, they stole farms from the whites there and gave them to blacks who couldn't run them. Then Zimbabwe went from being a food-exporting country to being a basket case that relies on hand-outs from the UN to avoid mass starvation. Looks like South Africa is heading in that direction.

Had whites been using the government to steal from blacks, there would be international outcry. But when blacks are the perpetrators and whites are the victims, no one in the mainstream media says anything.

It doesn't fit into the narrative that the MSM is selling.
All the news we read is filtered through that narrative. Alternate news sources on the internet has broken that stranglehold that filter has on the news somewhat, but major search engines are changing the availability of alternate sources as we speak.
Just ask Dennis Prager how that works.

 

[Rion]

South Africa: Party Aims to Remove Mayor Because He Is White

South Africa: 'We Are Cutting the Throat of Whiteness' - Malema On Plans to Remove Trollip

Hey, that sounds a lot like many of the progressive intelligentsia what with talking about killing "whiteness" and all that. Huh.

 

[TerryWoodenpic]

South Africa will go down the pan like Zimbabwe.
Sad but inevitable.
They were promised so much, but for a vast majority nothing changed.
It will probably need to sink to the bottom before anything substantial can be built again. and it will be a totally different country that emerges, sometime in the distant future.
The people will suffer, the people will fight and the people will die.
The little that survives will be fought over time and again...
Till the only direction left is UP.
How the upturn comes is un-guessable.

May be China will be the new masters and it will become a vassal state.
may be they will pull together and a leader found with a worthwhile vision.
By then South Africa as we know it will be dead to history.
neither this nor the next few generations will be around to care.

 

[SolomonVII]

Nelson Mandela is now officially dead.

 

[Redac]

This all sounds quite a bit like what supporters of apartheid back in the day said would happen if it were dismantled. Or at least that's the impression I get.

Go figure.

 

[TerranceL]

Nelson Mandela is now officially dead.

Not hardly. Mandela sang about killing white people too.

 

[JackRT]

Bishop Desmond Tutu once said "When the white man first came to South Africa we had the land and they had the Bible. They said 'Let us bow our heads and close our eyes and pray together'. But when we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible."

 

[Radagast]

Bishop Desmond Tutu once said "When the white man first came to South Africa we had the land and they had the Bible. They said 'Let us bow our heads and close our eyes and pray together'. But when we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible."

Did he actually say that?

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

Bishop Desmond Tutu once said "When the white man first came to South Africa we had the land and they had the Bible. They said 'Let us bow our heads and close our eyes and pray together'. But when we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible."

That doesn't sound like Tutu. He is very level-headed and has never tried to do anything but reconcile the races in South Africa. I sincerely doubt this quote, but even if true, I am sure it is taken far differently than he meant it if read in context.

Not hardly. Mandela sang about killing white people too.

Mandela had been a terrorist. He went to prison for terrorism-related offences and led the ANC's military wing, Umkhonto we Sizwe.

However, when he left prison he organised a fair government of national unity, broke bread with his former enemies, and attempted to steer a middle way. He was in favour of gradual transformation of South Africa, not revenge and land-grabbing or unfair treatment of whites. He was one of those rare people that can forgive and does not get hardened by events. He is definitely rolling in his grave.

 

[HannahT]

That doesn't sound like Tutu. He is very level-headed and has never tried to do anything but reconcile the races in South Africa. I sincerely doubt this quote, but even if true, I am sure it is taken far differently than he meant it if read in context.

According to Wikiquote: This quote, often attributed to Jomo Kenyatta, was first written in a fiction play published by holocaust doubter Rolf Hochhuth, in his controversial The Deputy, a Christian tragedy (1964), Grove Press, p. 144.

 

[JackRT]

According to Wikiquote: This quote, often attributed to Jomo Kenyatta, was first written in a fiction play published by holocaust doubter Rolf Hochhuth, in his controversial The Deputy, a Christian tragedy (1964), Grove Press, p. 144.

Yes, and according to that same article Tutu said it in jest without attributing the source.

 

[jovanovic]

Blacks in Africa want what white people have. In Zimbabwe, they stole farms from the whites there and gave them to blacks who couldn't run them. Then Zimbabwe went from being a food-exporting country to being a basket case that relies on hand-outs from the UN to avoid mass starvation. Looks like South Africa is heading in that direction.

Had whites been using the government to steal from blacks, there would be international outcry. But when blacks are the perpetrators and whites are the victims, no one in the mainstream media says anything.

Blacks stole farms from whites? It was the other way around, it was white people who came to africa and stole lands from the black people.

So according to you black people are dumb and can not rule a nation. There is no scientific fact that is showing that black people are dumber than white people.

There is no international outcry because white people are not opressed just like christians are not. Black people wants to have food on their table and not starve to death, its not "racism" to want equality with white people. White people on the other hand wants to keep their privilege which they got from colonization.

 

[SolomonVII]

Not hardly. Mandela sang about killing white people too.

When he was in a position of power, he sang his songs with wisdom.
Truth and reconciliation were very important concepts in terms of how to move beyond an unjust and oppressive system. In terms of overthrowing an unjust system, it is a moot point whether pacifism and the Ghandis of the world hold the only legitimate answers.

 

[SolomonVII]

Blacks stole farms from whites? It was the other way around, it was white people who came to africa and stole lands from the black people.

So according to you black people are dumb and can not rule a nation. There is no scientific fact that is showing that black people are dumber than white people.

There is no international outcry because white people are not opressed just like christians are not. Black people wants to have food on their table and not starve to death, its not "racism" to want equality with white people. White people on the other hand wants to keep their privilege which they got from colonization.

Identity politics suck.
Tribal warfare and tribal politics are things that we ought to relegate to the stone age, from whence they sprang.
We are not black or white or yellow or pink or blue.
We are all individuals.

 

[Gadarene]

There is no international outcry because white people are not opressed just like christians are not.

Their state is literally saying they have no right to their land and it will be taken from them by force - even if we accept that this is some kind of post-apartheid reparation, people are being killed here. Anyone with any recollection of Zimbabwe should be very worried about this - history is irrelevant, you don’t treat people this way, it is certainly not justice.

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

Blacks stole farms from whites? It was the other way around, it was white people who came to africa and stole lands from the black people.

So according to you black people are dumb and can not rule a nation. There is no scientific fact that is showing that black people are dumber than white people.

There is no international outcry because white people are not opressed just like christians are not. Black people wants to have food on their table and not starve to death, its not "racism" to want equality with white people. White people on the other hand wants to keep their privilege which they got from colonization.

So white people deserve to have their farms stolen, looted, and destroyed by indignant black Africans because of the alleged sins of colonialism? Get real! If you were the victim of such a crime, I sure wouldn't have sympathy for you. And your straw man fallacy on my purported views on black IQ is such nonsense that I won't bother replying to it.

When Sweden becomes a Muslim-majority country because guilt-ridden white liberals like you support mass immigration from the Middle East, I'm going to laugh my tail off when people like you are forced to convert to Islam. Swedes are already dhimmis in their own country because they will get charged with hate speech for criticizing Islam or noticing Muslim crime statistics. I can only imagine how much more severe things will be once Muslims are the majority in Sweden.

 

[Rion]

There is no international outcry because white people are not opressed just like christians are not. Black people wants to have food on their table and not starve to death, its not "racism" to want equality with white people. White people on the other hand wants to keep their privilege which they got from colonization.

Ever bothered to look over in the Middle East?

 

[jovanovic]

Ever bothered to look over in the Middle East?

You mean ISIS? ISIS attack everyone, extremists groups will always exists. With your logic atheists are opressed too, everyone is opressed with your logic. You have too look up what real opression is and what racism is. Real opression and real racism is when a whole group gets no rights and a genocide happens, this is what is happening to jews, muslims and black people right now in alot of places and also historically.