Sons of the Kingdom

[Tree of Life]

Is it possible to be a "son of the Kingdom" and not be truly saved? If not, why not? If so, how so?

This expression is used in Matthew 8:11-12.

 

[Eryk]

Is it possible to be a "son of the Kingdom" and not be truly saved? If not, why not? If so, how so?

This expression is used in Matthew 8:11-12.

The verse looks like a contrast between the saved from the nations and unbelieving Israel.

 

[Tree of Life]

The verse looks like a contrast between the saved from the nations and unbelieving Israel.

So is it possible to be a "son of the Kingdom" and be unsaved?

 

[Tolworth John]

Just because someone is born a jew or is brought up as a white, anglo saxon protestant, or attends church every day does not make one a Child of God.

Jesus is pointing out that many who are not born Jewish will/have come to learn and to worship him and that there are many who have a valuable heritage but who do not have a personal faith will lose out.

 

[Adstar]

The term "son of the Kingdom" was being used to refer to the Jews..

What was being said that many of the Jews who where the people of God ( a part of his earthly kingdom) would not be saved.. And that many Gentiles ""the many that will come from east and west"" will be saved..

 

[Tree of Life]

Just because someone is born a jew or is brought up as a white, anglo saxon protestant, or attends church every day does not make one a Child of God.

Jesus is pointing out that many who are not born Jewish will/have come to learn and to worship him and that there are many who have a valuable heritage but who do not have a personal faith will lose out.

So is it possible to be a son of the Kingdom and be unsaved?

 

[Tree of Life]

The term "son of the Kingdom" was being used to refer to the Jews..

What was being said that many of the Jews who where the people of God ( a part of his earthly kingdom) would not be saved.. And that many Gentiles ""the many that will come from east and west"" will be saved..

So is it possible to be a son of the Kingdom and be unsaved?

 

[Adstar]

So is it possible to be a son of the Kingdom and be unsaved?

When the term ""son of the Kingdom"" is refering to a Jewish man of the kingdom of Judea..

 

[Tree of Life]

When the term ""son of the Kingdom"" is refering to a Jewish man of the kingdom of Judea..

Kingdom in Matthew always refers to the Kingdom of Heaven. In verse 11 it refers to the Kingdom of Heaven explicitly. What makes you think that in verse 12 it refers to "kingdom of Judea"?

Anyway in the time of Jesus, Judea was not a Kingdom. Herod Antipas was a Tetrarch.

 

[Tolworth John]

So is it possible to be a son of the Kingdom and be unsaved?

Depends what you mean or understand by 'son of the kingdom'.
Jesus was refering to those Jews who did not believe in him.
They were son of the kingdom, but didn't live by kingdom rules.

 

[Tree of Life]

Depends what you mean or understand by 'son of the kingdom'.
Jesus was refering to those Jews who did not believe in him.
They were son of the kingdom, but didn't live by kingdom rules.

In what sense were they "sons of the Kingdom"? Do we have such "sons of the Kingdom" today?

 

[RaymondG]

Maybe Satan and his followers were sons of the kingdom and were cast down through the darkness of space. Maybe the people from the east and west are representatives of the redemption of the sons of adam. What do you mean by "saved" and "unsaved?"

 

[Adstar]

Kingdom in Matthew always refers to the Kingdom of Heaven. In verse 11 it refers to the Kingdom of Heaven explicitly. What makes you think that in verse 12 it refers to "kingdom of Judea"?

Anyway in the time of Jesus, Judea was not a Kingdom. Herod Antipas was a Tetrarch.

Seems you are fishing for only one answer...
Why ask a question of others when you only want one answer?
Why not just answer yourself and move on?

 

[Tree of Life]

Seems you are fishing for only one answer...
Why ask a question of others when you only want one answer?
Why not just answer yourself and move on?

I do think there is a right answer.

But I'm just asking you to defend your answer. Are you able to do so?

 

[Adstar]

I do think there is a right answer.

But I'm just asking you to defend your answer. Are you able to do so?

God knows the truth.. His will be done..

 

[Tree of Life]

God knows the truth.. His will be done..

So are you saying that you don't know the answer?

 

[Eryk]

So is it possible to be a "son of the Kingdom" and be unsaved?

Yes, in this verse, where "son of the Kingdom" refers to Israel. cf Romans 9:6

 

[Tree of Life]

Yes, in this verse, where "son of the Kingdom" refers to Israel. cf Romans 9:6

Could "sons of the Kingdom", in this sense, only ever refer to an Israelite?

 

[Eryk]

Could "sons of the Kingdom", in this sense, only ever refer to an Israelite?

In that verse it does refer to Israel, who were at that time the only people who were offered the Kingdom.

Elsewhere in Scripture, those who are born again enter the Kingdom of God (John 3:5–7) and the unrighteous will not inherit it (1 Corinthians 6:9).

What is the kingdom of God?

Who Are The Sons Of The Kingdom? – Grace thru faith

 

[Faith Alone 1 Cor 15:1-4]

Is it possible to be a "son of the Kingdom" and not be truly saved? If not, why not? If so, how so?

This expression is used in Matthew 8:11-12.

Jesus is speaking here about Israel - Jews not believing in him , he says that many gentiles from west and east will be able to be in Kingdom of Heaven with Abraham and not Jews because they rather keep law and do sacrifices , insteed of accepting Messiah , but gentiles like this guy who had soldiers under him believed without requiring a sign and didn't even ask Jesus to come to him , just wanted him to say a thing , thats big faith compared to phariasies who didn't believe Jesus after he did miracles in front of them , and even called his spirit belzebub.