Some Florida Hospitals Have No Empty ICU Beds

[dqhall]

The COVID-19 problem did not go away.

Multiple Florida hospitals out of ICU beds amid COVID-19 surge: Hospitals across Florida are nearing or meeting bed capacity in intensive care units as COVID-19 cases rise, Newsweek reports. 

 

[JackRT]

The COVID-19 problem did not go away.

Multiple Florida hospitals out of ICU beds amid COVID-19 surge: Hospitals across Florida are nearing or meeting bed capacity in intensive care units as COVID-19 cases rise, Newsweek reports.

Much the same in Alabama.

 

[redleghunter]

The COVID-19 problem did not go away.

Multiple Florida hospitals out of ICU beds amid COVID-19 surge: Hospitals across Florida are nearing or meeting bed capacity in intensive care units as COVID-19 cases rise, Newsweek reports.

I guess it depends on who the media chooses to interview.

Florida Hospitals Have Sufficient Capacity As Coronavirus Cases Surge, Officials Report

It might have been advisable for Florida health officials to issue warnings to peaceful protesters over three weeks ago. May have stopped this potential spike.

 

[redleghunter]

Much the same in Alabama.

Again it’s who you interview and what is and is not reported.


Local Hospitals Respond to Mayor Steven Reed Shortage of ICU Beds Comment - Alabama News

 

[Tra Phull]

My son is an RN at an ICU in El Paso

There is an overflow unit to the ICU, the regular ICU is full

 

[hedrick]

Again it’s who you interview and what is and is not reported.

Or the area. It’s unlikely that ICUs fill uniformly across the state.

 

[redleghunter]

My son is an RN at an ICU in El Paso

There is an overflow unit to the ICU, the regular ICU is full

El Paso apparently had a similar capacity issue a week after Mother’s Day.

'Close to reaching capacity': UMC plans for patient overflow as El Paso virus cases surge - KVIA

The intent of the March-April shutdown was to build hospital capacity. It seems the hospitals are a lot more prepared for these surges now then they were 6-8 weeks ago.

As the article indicates, now that elective surgeries opened up there are competing needs for ICU beds.

 

[Broken Fence]

This is just gonna get worse. Healthcare professionals are tracking 2 strains around the world. Both are mutating and becoming more infectious. I would be cautious, practice social distancing.

The coronavirus has mutated and appears to be more contagious now, new study finds

 

[hedrick]

This is just gonna get worse. Healthcare professionals are tracking 2 strains around the world. Both are mutating and becoming more infectious. I would be cautious, practice social distancing.

The coronavirus has mutated and appears to be more contagious now, new study finds

There are caveats for that paper. No, the COVID-19 virus is not getting more contagious - Alliance for Science

Theres another study like this Mutation could make coronavirus more infectious, study suggests - CNN. But if I understand it, the resulting strain is the one we already got from Europe.

 

[Broken Fence]

There are caveats for that paper. No, the COVID-19 virus is not getting more contagious - Alliance for Science

Theres another study like this Mutation could make coronavirus more infectious, study suggests - CNN. But if I understand it, the resulting strain is the one we already got from Europe.

Yea not sure, me and mom aren't taking any chances. We are being extra careful.

 

[dqhall]

I guess it depends on who the media chooses to interview.

Florida Hospitals Have Sufficient Capacity As Coronavirus Cases Surge, Officials Report

It might have been advisable for Florida health officials to issue warnings to peaceful protesters over three weeks ago. May have stopped this potential spike.

Florida reopened bars, massage parlors, theaters, theme parks, hair salons and barbershops had something to do with it.

Protests and political rallies did not seem concerned.

Reported new deaths in Florida have dropped to one a day. Either hospital care improved, the government reporting methods are crooked, the virus is weakening, or at risk people are sheltering themselves.

High level officials have predicted a spike in new COVID deaths by the middle of July.

 

[hedrick]

Florida reopened bars, massage parlors, theaters, theme parks, hair salons and barbershops had something to do with it.

Protests and political rallies did not seem concerned.

Reported new deaths in Florida have dropped to one a day. Either hospital care improved, the government reporting methods are crooked, the virus is weakening, or at risk people are sheltering themselves.

High level officials have predicted a spike in new COVID deaths by the middle of July.

I saw something recently from the CDC saying that reported deaths lagged new cases by almost a month. That’s why it’s expected in mid July I’d guess.

 

[dqhall]

I saw something recently from the CDC saying that reported deaths lagged new cases by almost a month. That’s why it’s expected in mid July I’d guess.

This chart shows daily US COVID deaths dropping. There were only 267 COVID deaths reported in the USA yesterday. That is close to 100,000 reported deaths per year (rounded) in a nation of 330,000,000. That is about 1 in 330 people dying of COVID per year. Many of these were elderly or sick with preexisting illness.
United States Coronavirus: 2,356,802 Cases and 122,250 Deaths - Worldometer

Hospitals being overwhelmed by new COVID patients is a worry as some antiviral drugs and therapy were administered in hospitals. Normal hospital functions were impaired during the epidemic.

 

[redleghunter]

Florida reopened bars, massage parlors, theaters, theme parks, hair salons and barbershops had something to do with it.

These may be indicators of younger people contracting the virus. But does not tell the story of hospital capacity. What would have been interesting if there was data on which age ranges are in ICU. Florida is the Senior Citizen capital of the US. Meaning most people who would occupy their ICU wards would be elderly. But are they there for COVID or other reasons.

Protests and political rallies did not seem concerned.

I would say the virus does not care if someone is protesting or sunbathing.

Reported new deaths in Florida have dropped to one a day. Either hospital care improved, the government reporting methods are crooked, the virus is weakening, or at risk people are sheltering themselves.

I think Florida did a decent job protecting the vulnerable populations in long-term care facilities, independent retirement communities and assisted living facilities.

High level officials have predicted a spike in new COVID deaths by the middle of July.

Of course they do.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Florida reopened bars, massage parlors, theaters, theme parks, hair salons and barbershops had something to do with it.

Protests and political rallies did not seem concerned.

I would not that this hospital overflow is in South Florida, which if I remember correctly was the first part of the state to be locked down and the last to be opened back up.

Reported new deaths in Florida have dropped to one a day. Either hospital care improved, the government reporting methods are crooked, the virus is weakening, or at risk people are sheltering themselves.

High level officials have predicted a spike in new COVID deaths by the middle of July.

High level officials predicted 3,000 deaths a day nationwide by June.

As it turns out, they're down to the levels they were at in late March.

 

[dqhall]

These may be indicators of younger people contracting the virus. But does not tell the story of hospital capacity. What would have been interesting if there was data on which age ranges are in ICU. Florida is the Senior Citizen capital of the US. Meaning most people who would occupy their ICU wards would be elderly. But are they there for COVID or other reasons.


I would say the virus does not care if someone is protesting or sunbathing.


I think Florida did a decent job protecting the vulnerable populations in long-term care facilities, independent retirement communities and assisted living facilities.


Of course they do.

The governor of Texas asked residents to wear face masks in spite of their feelings it takes away their freedom.

The spike in Texas COVID cases has caused some concern:
Local leaders warn Texas is heading down a dangerous path as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in big cities

 

[grasping the after wind]

The governor of Texas asked residents to wear face masks in spite of their feelings it takes away their freedom.

The spike in Texas COVID cases has caused some concern:
Local leaders warn Texas is heading down a dangerous path as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in big cities

Asking someone to do something doesn't take away that person's freedom. Why would anyone think it does?

 

[redleghunter]

The governor of Texas asked residents to wear face masks in spite of their feelings it takes away their freedom.

The spike in Texas COVID cases has caused some concern:
Local leaders warn Texas is heading down a dangerous path as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in big cities

Makes sense. I think the “political debate” over mask wearing is ridiculous. If you can’t social distance properly then wear a mask. Pretty simple makes sense. Some people may think it infringes their liberty not to cover a sneeze but we know better.

I ate at a restaurant with family north of Dallas this weekend. To get in you needed a mask. Once you sat at your properly spaced out table you could take it off. Get up to go to the bathroom, put it back on.

 

[Sophrosyne]

This chart shows daily US COVID deaths dropping. There were only 267 COVID deaths reported in the USA yesterday. That is close to 100,000 reported deaths per year (rounded) in a nation of 330,000,000. That is about 1 in 330 people dying of COVID per year. Many of these were elderly or sick with preexisting illness.
United States Coronavirus: 2,356,802 Cases and 122,250 Deaths - Worldometer

Hospitals being overwhelmed by new COVID patients is a worry as some antiviral drugs and therapy were administered in hospitals. Normal hospital functions were impaired during the epidemic.

Your math is bad.... 0.1 in 330 or 1 in 3300 as you would have to have 1,000,000 deaths to make it 1 in 330. Actual number based upon your figures equates to 0.037% death rate or a little over about 1/30th of a percent

 

[dqhall]

Your math is bad.... 0.1 in 330 or 1 in 3300 as you would have to have 1,000,000 deaths to make it 1 in 330. Actual number based upon your figures equates to 0.037% death rate or a little over about 1/30th of a percent

Thanks for the correction. They are worried more people will die if the hospitals get overwhelmed with patients and people can not get skilled care.

They might or might not have a vaccine by the end of the year. The earliest of any projections for a vaccine approval I recall is September. There are an estimated 100 vaccine candidates in the development pipeline. Oxford University of London was developing a MERS coronavirus vaccine. They modified it for COVID SARS. They seem to be in the lead.

The Chinese were hacking university computers looking for solutions. They have a product in testing.