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What are your thoughts on the backlash directed at the young lady who called the cops on the 8-year-old girl who was selling water? As always, more facts from the story come out later. She was pretending to call the police. She was stressed and handled it badly (I agree with that). But the public seems to think it was racism, and that she put the child's life at risk. One person called her "an attempted murderer." Now she has lost her business, she and her family are getting death threats, and horrible things are being said about her. People are celebrating this because they say she's getting what she deserves. They expressing their euphoria over her downfall, as a victory. Her entire life ruined, probably for years to come. No one is going to hire her now. Does the punishment fit the crime here? Even though she apologized, people don't care. In fact, they don't need or want to know anything more because they've already issued a verdict after seeing the video just one time. They seem to think this is going to end racism because they know everything about this woman's heart.

This bothers me. It bothers me because, for years, it seems that a two-minute video is shown in the middle of something, posted on the internet, and people think they know everything that happened or was going on inside the person's head. Someone is eventually going to get killed by "vigilantes," kill themselves, or worse: someone who looks like them or has the same name is going to get targeted. A rabid crowd worries me more than the content of the video. What are your thoughts, as Christians? Is this the justice that the Lord would approve of? What's even worse is that for speaking out about this, I'm considered complicit with her actions.
 

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What are your thoughts on the backlash directed at the young lady who called the cops on the 8-year-old girl who was selling water? As always, more facts from the story come out later. She was pretending to call the police. She was stressed and handled it badly (I agree with that). But the public seems to think it was racism, and that she put the child's life at risk. One person called her "an attempted murderer." Now she has lost her business, she and her family are getting death threats, and horrible things are being said about her. People are celebrating this because they say she's getting what she deserves. They expressing their euphoria over her downfall, as a victory. Her entire life ruined, probably for years to come. No one is going to hire her now. Does the punishment fit the crime here? Even though she apologized, people don't care. In fact, they don't need or want to know anything more because they've already issued a verdict after seeing the video just one time. They seem to think this is going to end racism because they know everything about this woman's heart.

This bothers me. It bothers me because, for years, it seems that a two-minute video is shown in the middle of something, posted on the internet, and people think they know everything that happened or was going on inside the person's head. Someone is eventually going to get killed by "vigilantes," kill themselves, or worse: someone who looks like them or has the same name is going to get targeted. A rabid crowd worries me more than the content of the video. What are your thoughts, as Christians? Is this the justice that the Lord would approve of? What's even worse is that for speaking out about this, I'm considered complicit with her actions.
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Instead of the mother of the kid just giving her $20.00 she went to the store and bought $5.00 or $10.00 dollars worth of water and had he daughter sell them for for $2.00 a piece. making a good prophet, because people like to buy things from kids even if the price is jacked up.

Everything everyone does is up for examination by the public, and it will only get worse, I am sick and tired of everyone being in everyone elses' business, and commenting on things as thought hey are the authority on the matter or they know best in any given situation.

Having said all of that, don't I sound like the people I'm talking about? :scratch:
 
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I really can't take PermitPatty's side in this. She chose to live across from a major league baseball stadium, she is never going to have quiet on any night where there is a home game. And she said she pretended to call the cops because of the noise the girl was making.

I'm honestly more concerned with the restaurant that refused to serve Sarah Sanders.
 
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Good post, @Lybrah. The woman was wrong to call the police, or pretend to call them. But the backlash goes way beyond anything just. People are more concerned about their own reaction to the injustice than the act itself.
 
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People have already been killed because of swatting and internet harassment. It is not a new thing at all, unfortunately.

Unfortunately people are immature, the internet is a powerful tool, and with great power comes great responsibility.

My guess is that the law is going to have to catch up with the digital age at some point, because the internet can destroy lives easily by spreading false news, sensationalism, etc., in a way that was previously unimaginable.
 
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I really can't take PermitPatty's side in this. She chose to live across from a major league baseball stadium, she is never going to have quiet on any night where there is a home game. And she said she pretended to call the cops because of the noise the girl was making.

I'm honestly more concerned with the restaurant that refused to serve Sarah Sanders.

No one is asking you to take her side. But the public’s reaction is over the top. Her products have been dropped from their distributors, and people are still ganging up on the ones that haven’t. They’re going to continue this until she’s bankrupt, and I just think it’s pointless to kick a woman when she’s down. Most of the people wouldn’t even buy from those places anyway, but they’re threatening to boycott.
 
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While I don't think someone lose their livelihood, a woman calling (or pretending to call) the police sort of tells you the whole game. The police are used a tool to cow people of color into submission. And when you call the police, you are suggesting an armed response may be necessary to quell the situation. The problem is people like this treating the police like customer service, "I don't like something, so let me get the police to show up with guns to fix it for me." There is no reason to call the police on this child; unfortunately, when you make yourself a public fool, it has repercussions.
 
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While I don't think someone lose their livelihood, a woman calling (or pretending to call) the police sort of tells you the whole game. The police are used a tool to cow people of color into submission. And when you call the police, you are suggesting an armed response may be necessary to quell the situation. The problem is people like this treating the police like customer service, "I don't like something, so let me get the police to show up with guns to fix it for me." There is no reason to call the police on this child; unfortunately, when you make yourself a public fool, it has repercussions.

What makes you think she wouldn't call the cops on a white girl? According to the mother, there were white vendors there too, but I didn't see them in the video, did you? Maybe I saw a shortened version, but I didn't see them, so what makes me think she isn't lying about that to get more sympathy? Maybe this isn't a POC issue, the woman just snapped and made a mistake. Do we have to follow her around for the rest of her life to make sure she never gets another job and is forever miserable? And police are not all evil. You don't know for a fact the girl would have been harmed. While there is a chance it could have ended tragically, it didn't. I doubt the police would have harmed her. They probably would have just talked to the mother and left. In fact, they didn't even show up, because she was pretending to call the whole time.
 
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What makes you think she wouldn't call the cops on a white girl? According to the mother, there were white vendors there too, but I didn't see them in the video, did you? Maybe I saw a shortened version, but I didn't see them, so what makes me think she isn't lying about that to get more sympathy? Maybe this isn't a POC issue, the woman just snapped and made a mistake. Do we have to follow her around for the rest of her life to make sure she never gets another job and is forever miserable? And police are not all evil. You don't know for a fact the girl would have been harmed. While there is a chance it could have ended tragically, it didn't. I doubt the police would have harmed her. They probably would have just talked to the mother and left. In fact, they didn't even show up, because she was pretending to call the whole time.
When white people find their day hindered for doing mundane things, you can talk about all the white girls that have had the police called on them for doing mundane things. There is a disproportionate response in which police are called on black children. And no one said the police would have harmed her, but police officers themselves have said when you're calling the police, you are also suggesting that an armed response may be necessary. Is an armed response even remotely necessary in this situation? If the answer is no, then perhaps you shouldn't be calling the police. Do you know who can talk to the mother and child? The woman calling the police. This woman called the police to terrorize a little girl, that is wrong.
 
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People need to realize when you call the police a violent response is always a possibility. Geeks/hackers know this of course which is why it's called "swatting", using the police, usually with social engineering techniques, to exact revenge.
 
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I'll tell you what I did...
I got really spiritual for a year and because I stopped taking my synthroid--I began to think I was an end-time prophet.
I know, weird right?
Well I'm better now--back on my meds.. But one thing hasn't changed. While I do use the internet again (I went a year without using the internet what-so-ever) now I am just not on Social Media what-so-ever.

Many may think I'm missing out, or "How do you keep in touch with old friends or family?" well the truth is, I don't--or I call them, or I text them.
It's weird if you grew up after the internet--because many of us remember a time when, if you were at the store, you just simply had to wait until you got home to use the phone to call your spouse, or your friend, etc..
Now we call while we are driving-- we call while we are on the potty, we use our phones everywhere--it's kinda crazy.

If you look at how some communist countries that are socialist use social media to control their populous, you can see a scary future ahead.
We didn't used to have "fake news" either.
It's a strange, strange world now days. (But you can limit how much of the strangeness you let in your life)

Edit: For instance, in China, people can rate your statement on social media as to how patriotic or unpatriotic it is.. and if you get enough unpatriotic ones, strange men can show up at your house and you are never heard or seen from again. It's that real.
 
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If you think this is scary, you have barely even begun to scratch the surface of what is happening in the world/internet.

I have learned that it is not our responsibility to worry about it. God will take care of things and right now things are simply happening as they were foretold. It is not going to get better from here. It will only get worse.
 
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No one is asking you to take her side. But the public’s reaction is over the top. Her products have been dropped from their distributors, and people are still ganging up on the ones that haven’t. They’re going to continue this until she’s bankrupt, and I just think it’s pointless to kick a woman when she’s down. Most of the people wouldn’t even buy from those places anyway, but they’re threatening to boycott.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/06/alison-ettel-permit-patty/
Alison Ettel, aka Permit Patty: Here's everything you need to know

I still don't feel bad for her.
 
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First as for Patty, whatever people may think, legally she did nothing wrong. You're not allowed selling water without a permit. Its for health reasons. Go to a third world country like my wifes where anyone can sell food on the side of the road. Its scary. BBQ dog legs for example right from the area. Ick.

That aside America is falling like Rome. I always said it would. God was abandoned around 20 years ago. Its when certain agendas and views starting to make some progress. Its when God started to be pushed back more in everything. Now we have all kinds of immoral things going on from sexual agendas to hating "religion" (more so christians). We have school shootings and shootings in general. We have race wars. Now we have political wars. People are going nuts. This is America now. Society is scary now.
 
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