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"Snowpiercer": Has Anyone Seen this Film & is Man VIOLENT by Nature or by Choice?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Gxg (G²), Jul 12, 2014.

  1. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) Supporter CF Ambassadors

    Oriental Orthodox

    For anyone interested, I just saw the film entitled Snowpiercer - and it is truly one of the most powerful (and yet dark/heavy) films I've ever seen when it comes to showing how quickly man can evolve to do the worst things others say he'd never do.

    Snowpiercer Official US Release Trailer #1 (2014) - Chris Evans Movie HD - YouTube

    Snowpiercer - Chris Evans | Behind the Scenes | FandangoMovies - YouTube



    For a good review of the film, one can go here to The Korean Foreigner: The Philosophy of Snowpiercer or to the following:

    In the future, a failed attempt at climate control (to stop global warming) leads to a new Ice Age that wipes out all life - and only those who entered on to this vastly well-designed train were able to survive. Decades later, the central story in Snowpiercer concerns a revolution that sees the people in steerage grow tired of being repressed and attempt to take control of the train, car by car. These people live in squalor, fed only gelatinous protein blocks while being abused by guards armed with machine guns - WITH others at the top of the train living in opulence and wealth. As they move forward, the director (Bong) shows us the true human cost of an action film as each death is horrifyingly real and hard to watch.

    When I saw the film, I couldn't help but think on where I was not a huge fan of the French Revolution which was based heavily on Nihilism and the Enlightenment Era with so much of its angst toward religious thought (and the violence that was seen as a means to change things) - and even though I appreciate other principles that were developed from it...many of which helped Black Christians in Haiti fight for their freedom - I find it repugnant to see the ways that the same people leading revolution ended up doing the exact same opppression that they fought against ...and sometimes worse.

    The film Snowpiercer really does help to bring home the issue of how often people don't realize that they harm themselves when it comes to survival alone being the focus rather than living for something more.

    For anyone who has seen the film, I was curious what you thought on it. What were your thoughts in regards to being controlled without realizing it - on how humans act when they are forced to survive together? Did you feel the film was a good exposition on how man tends to turn to violence when difficulty arises?

    Moreover, do you feel that mankind itself is simply violent by nature? Specifically, do you feel that man at the core of his being will always lean toward violence (like Genesis 6 notes with the Flood and how every inclination of man's heart was to wickedness)? Or is violent behavior something that others are made to support? Some of this touches upon the concept of "Original Sin" - and whether we were born sinners and sin because we're sinners or we're sinners because we sin (having been born with a clean slate and making choice).

    But when seeing the Depravity of man, it's hard NOT to think man was always destined to fall into sin when hard times fall - and I do wonder on the issue.​
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  2. Optimax

    Optimax Senior Veteran

    Word of Faith
    Don't care to see the film.

    Jesus knew man had a violent sin problem.

    That is why He told us that we must be born again/saved (rom 10:9).
  3. Rick Otto

    Rick Otto The Dude Abides

    I think man's choices are according to his nature.
  4. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) Supporter CF Ambassadors

    Oriental Orthodox
  5. Murby

    Murby Well-Known Member

    I saw this movie a couple years ago.. I thought it was unrealistic and silly
  6. tz620q

    tz620q Regular Member Supporter

    There is an old maxim in history, "Revolutions eat their children." The thought is that if you track the revolutionaries, they work together as long as the revolution is underway; but if they ever gain power, they almost invariably turn on each other and start killing each other off in a quest for total control. The French Revolution is a good example of this.

    Thanks for the movie recommendation. I have not seen it; but maybe now I will see if I can get it.