Smoking weed a sin??

[LekryceMack]

Ive been reborn since sept 14. Yes we all know its a natural plant that comes from comes from god. But what ppl don't know is the reason its illegal is for corrupted reasons. The plant produces over 5,000 textile products including paper, cloth, medicines, foods etc. I read in this website that many christains and followers back in the days used it for food, relaxation, and healing. amongst other man made drugs that are addictive and hurt the body...Weed isn't my god. i don't smoke as much as i used to cause i don't really care about like that but when i do I'm still me just more chill, joyful, i make christian raps, have great conversations with ppl about God and life. pretty much me sober just more....idk a word for it lol. I surrender to christ. therefor weed isn't like '' i must get stonnned right now." but more of a relaxed mind state where my reality isn't removed but rather enhanced. I think better and clearer about certain scenarios in my life and i worship god with or without it. I just want some opinions on it. it would really help. thank you god bless.

 

[Armistead14]

I wouldn't deem it sin per say in all instances. God made many plants that can be used to alter the mind, but we don't know that he intended us to use them for that. It's much like drinking, the bible says not to be a drunk, not that we can drink in moderation.

The other issue is it's agaisnt the law, so that would be an issue for many Christians that feel we should obey the laws of man. Yes, many of our laws are designed for mass profit and silly...I know, but what would it say if you got arrested.

I think it should be legal, but that's my opinion for numerous reasons.

I think it's a choice you'll have to decide, but if you do, be careful not to be a stumbling block for others. The bible is clear, even if it's not sin, we shouldn't do certain things in front of others that may cause them to stumble. I have a friend that has problems with alcohol, I would never drink in front of him, even though I seldom drink at all.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Ive been reborn since sept 14. Yes we all know its a natural plant that comes from comes from god. But what ppl don't know is the reason its illegal is for corrupted reasons.

Straight out of NORML and Mother Jones. Find some better sources without an agenda. Try this one.

WSU ADCAPS - Alcohol & Drug Counseling, Assessment, & Prevention Services - Drugs 101: Marijuana

Among other things there, marijuana is shown to:

• Reduces levels of testosterone, which equates to reduced ability to gain lean muscle mass. Based on this, one can say “If you smoke weed don’t bother going to the weight room.”
• Reduces libido and sperm count
• Produces sperm with abnormal chromosomes
• Disrupts menstrual cycles
• Produces less healthy eggs in women
• Development of the mammary glands (gynecomastia) in men
• Studies show that THC damages the hippocampus, a critical part of the brain in terms of learning and memory
• Amotivational syndrome
• Slows the transmission of neurochemicals due to the thickening of the walls of brain cells
• Causes anxiety and panic reaction
• Increases heart rate and blood pressure
• Reduces the supply of oxygen in the blood (at a time it needs more oxygen due to increase HR and BP
• Decreases effectiveness of the immune system

 

[Tucansam93]

I always found weed as a subtle sin. There is a lot of discussion whether it should be accepted or not. It's one of those things that God probably put in this world for us to seriously question. Personally I think it can be bad for you in the long run but I also think a lot of people blow it out of proportion on how bad it is for you. It's not as bad as cigarettes or alcohol but I still think it should be avoided for its long term effects. It may not affect your body badly short term, but it definitely changes you culturally and socially. I have seen my friends change from weed and that's all they want to do now. They also blow their money on it. I have seen other people start dealing it and get into a lot of trouble with the law. It's just one of those things that's small and not a big deal that turns into something big. You just have to consider that if you want to keep doing it.

 

[jpcedotal]

What? I forgot what we were talking about.

 

[DamianWarS]

I accept that smoking weed can be argued as a substance that can be taken with moderation much like drinking but also like drinking it can have its sinful zones. However I think it is more important to focus on it as an illegal substance and its role it plays in our culture than if the high you get from it is sinful or not. I don't think we can fairly approach the subject without assuming all the junk that comes with it not to mention push you toward other drugs which are sinful. You may disagree that it is a gateway drug and that may not be the case with many people however with some it has definitely played that role and to properly talk about the subject you need to address the negative stuff associated with it not just the good stuff. Since if we smoke or not smoke is not an issue of salvation or the gospel I think if we do smoke it demands some compromises at the very least with the law as well a poor rep and because of that I think it is best to refrain from using it to be responsible to Christian living.

 

[1Em1Esseswife]

Straight out of NORML and Mother Jones. Find some better sources without an agenda. Try this one.

WSU ADCAPS - Alcohol & Drug Counseling, Assessment, & Prevention Services - Drugs 101: Marijuana

Among other things there, marijuana is shown to:

• Reduces levels of testosterone, which equates to reduced ability to gain lean muscle mass. Based on this, one can say “If you smoke weed don’t bother going to the weight room.”
• Reduces libido and sperm count
• Produces sperm with abnormal chromosomes
• Disrupts menstrual cycles
• Produces less healthy eggs in women
• Development of the mammary glands (gynecomastia) in men
• Studies show that THC damages the hippocampus, a critical part of the brain in terms of learning and memory
• Amotivational syndrome
• Slows the transmission of neurochemicals due to the thickening of the walls of brain cells
• Causes anxiety and panic reaction
• Increases heart rate and blood pressure
• Reduces the supply of oxygen in the blood (at a time it needs more oxygen due to increase HR and BP
• Decreases effectiveness of the immune system

So, while you and Mother Jones are getting high, you are also killing yourselves, or putting an end to your chances of having normal progeny before you even think about producing them. So stop kidding yourself, looking for excuses and put down the bong.

ROFL !!!
That's just reversal of bias.
Government propaganda.
You know..... as much as you cryout against socialism, if there weren't govt programs coughing out taxpayer money for the weak individuals who cant handle the freedom to get high, you wouldn't have a job.
Gettin' high is a right , it's called happiness.
Just like my right to not wear a seatbelt, I dont need big brother trying to protect me from myself.
If they want to spend taxpayer money to help weak people, go for it.
But dont go using that as an excuse to step on my freedom.
That is socialism at it's finest.
Seems you might take a look in the mirror before you go calling out others for doing the same thing as you.

Drug laws are unconstitutional.

 

[sorednax]

I don't think smoking weed itself is a sin, but isn't it in the bible somewhere about about submitting to authorities and what not? In other words, if God placed you in a country where weed was illegal, than it would be sinful for knowingly breaking the law.

 

[freezerman2000]

I used to smoke at least twice a week...I didn't consider it a sin then, and I still don't now.
Now I only smoke or eat it once in a blue moon, mainly because I can't afford it. It used to be $10.00 a dime bag, $40.00 an ounce, and $120.00 a quarter pound. Those days are long gone.

 

[EchoRain]

I don't know if it is a sin. All I know is what I have seen it do to my dad who has smoked for years. He seems to be completely in the throngs of the enemy.. now not all of that I know is just from smoking. So I'll stop with that and say I just do not agree with it.

 

[americanvet]

Ask your pastor if weed, in any amount, is a helpful tool in your walk with Christ.

 

[IOWLBNIF]

“All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.



I prolly have smoked/eaten more weed than anyone in this thread (im just guessing is all)

I was still smoking when i repented to Christ.....and i ask him to show me if i should stop or not, because i stopped smoking weed for money (i went into the military for money, but there were times i still smoked weed like on leave and stuff), and he is much better than money



Now, when the bible repeats something then it tends to be important. Take for example the ministry of Christ.

Now, there are a few separate verse that says to "keep a sober mind".

I can tell you from experience that weed does not help you do that.


Unlike alcohol, after one hit of a j(oint), your mind is altered

Unlike weed, you have to have a lack of self control to get drunk (be in a mind altered state).

Self control is a fruit of the Spirit. We are called to not be drunk.

 

[1Em1Esseswife]

I don't think smoking weed itself is a sin, but isn't it in the bible somewhere about about submitting to authorities and what not? In other words, if God placed you in a country where weed was illegal, than it would be sinful for knowingly breaking the law.

Yes,Peter said this.

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme ;

So in another country you would obey thier laws.
Here in America we have the Constittution.
It dictates what laws are legal and what are not.
The jury trial system was implemented to hold the govt. to it's constitution.
A jury's duty is not just to determine when someone has broken a law, but also whether the law itself is constitutional.
Here's what Thomas Jefferson a lawyer by trade had to say about it:


[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Thomas Jefferson considered the jury trial "the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.''[/FONT]

The Constitution

“The trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State, where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.” - US Constitution Article III, Section 2, Paragraph 3

So you see, WE THE PEOPLE, decide what is lawful and what is not.
The question is:
Can you handle the God given right to to love your nieghbor as yourself, and protect his freedom the same as you would your own?

 

[IOWLBNIF]

I was writing that response on my phone. But you really haven't proven anything to me with all due respect. I'm sure you don't treat ''pot addicts'' because there aren't any. Yes, Its bad when thats all you do, yes, its bad while you do it your thinking sinful things and fantasying about sex or whatever, yes in this culture its seen as a low to earth group of potheads, and yes its worst when your willing to steal a $20 bill from your mom just to smoke. As an addict counselor you should know better my friend. I play basketball a lot, and very active. I don't even smoke like that anymore because i don't really care and it doesn't make me who i am. I know who I am. Child of God follower of christ. You can put me in any category you want. I know who I am and what i am. I overcame bigger things like uncontrollable sexual thoughts and masterbatio thorough faith and trust in Christ. Like i said before. If you want to prove something to me. Learn more about marijuanna. There is a lot of things you really don't know. And smoking....is just the 2% of it.

why do you ignore the scripture i put?

 

[LekryceMack]

I don't know if it is a sin. All I know is what I have seen it do to my dad who has smoked for years. He seems to be completely in the throngs of the enemy.. now not all of that I know is just from smoking. So I'll stop with that and say I just do not agree with it.

Im sorry about your dad. What ppl also forget is that people are people. if your a dummy and smoke...well your more of a dummy. if your an educated man of christ and smoke....well your more of that. I would now. Unlike crack, meth, coke, alcohol, etc. All those drugs LITERALLY change you are physical and mentally. except this plant. At the end of the day. wether you smoke or not you are who you are.

 

[LekryceMack]

why do you ignore the scripture i put?

I dont. It makes sense...alot of sense. Thats kind of what i needed scripture wise to determine this.

 

[IOWLBNIF]

then i hope you repent of smoking weed then.

that is why i gave the testimony

 

[1Em1Esseswife]

why do you ignore the scripture i put?

You never posted any that were relevant to the topic.
He addressed your scripture in his post to EchoRain.

What ppl also forget is that people are people. if your a dummy and smoke...well your more of a dummy. if your an educated man of christ and smoke....well your more of that. I would now.

Here are some scriptures that line up.

ROMANS 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

COPOSSIANS 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

MARK 7
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand :

15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

16 If any man have ears to hear , let him hear .

17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also?

Do ye not perceive , that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 And he said , That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

 

[IOWLBNIF]

You never posted any that were relevant to the topic.
He addressed your scripture in his post to EchoRain.



Here are some scriptures that line up.

ROMANS 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

COPOSSIANS 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

MARK 7
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand :

15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

16 If any man have ears to hear , let him hear .

17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also?

Do ye not perceive , that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 And he said , That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

maybe you didnt read it all.


I didnt post "exact scriptures" but i talked about where the bible says to be of sober mind.

 

[1Em1Esseswife]

maybe you didnt read it all.


I didnt post "exact scriptures" but i talked about where the bible says to be of sober mind.

Here's what I caught.

“All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up.

Then there was this.

then i hope you repent of smoking weed then.

that is why i gave the testimony

So did I take it wrong that one should repent because you deem smoking weed as unhelpful?