Sleep paralysis/battle demons at night/discernment

[frankieJohn]

Frankie....I'm always amazed that so many Christians don't believe that Satan and his demons actually attack Christians. For that matter....how many Christians do not believe in the devil and his demons at all.

Satan and his demons are just as real as Jesus and heaven. This life is a battle for souls. There is constant fight..the bible says the devil is a lion seeking whom he may devour.

 

[frankieJohn]

Your experience is not that uncommon - your symptoms are consistent with sleep paralysis with conscious or lucid dreaming (sometimes called hallucinations, but in this sort of case associated with a partial dream state).

Normally when you go into dreaming sleep, your voluntary muscle control is 'disconnected' to stop you acting out your dreams. As sleepwalkers demonstrate, this doesn't always work properly, but sometimes the opposite effect occurs - dream paralysis while conscious.

Your conscious awareness is generally only partial during dreams - the dept of consciousness can vary, and it's possible to be fully conscious while dreaming (I've had this on a few, memorable, occasions).

It's less common to become conscious while still in dream paralysis - it typically comes around the time of normal waking, and is often accompanied by a sense of weight on the chest - and sometimes personified as an evil presence (e.g. the 'Old Hag'). Bedroom 'alien abductions' are contemporary versions of this effect.

You seem to have experienced both waking sleep paralysis and a partial dream state. As George says, if it was the middle of the night, i.e. dark, you probably wouldn't be able to tell if the demon's eyes were actually black or not; this detail suggests a dream state, although your eyes can be open and seeing the room for real.

Here's an article describing the general experience and it's cultural interpretations: The Demon on your Chest, and Other Terrifying Tales of Sleep Paralysis. Here's the published paper it's based on: Sleep Paralysis in Brazilian Folklore and Other Cultures: A Brief Review.

"Sleep paralysis (SP) is a dissociative state in which an individual, upon going to sleep or waking up, is unable to move (Mahowald et al., 2011). SP is accompanied by frightening, and often fantastic, hallucinations and delusions (Dahlitz and Parkes, 1993), thus different societies interpreted it under a supernatural or metaphysical perspective (Hinton et al., 2005)."​

Thank you for your response..I have read that article about sleep paralysis. I know what "science" is calling it. I am really wanting to know if anyone else experiences this..and if so please share.

 

[frankieJohn]

Yah Well...Know your enemy or get slaughtered.

amen

 

[frankieJohn]

1) The forum you posted this in is open to all members, not just Christians
2) Not all Christians are enamored with demonology.

I think you on the wrong forum..this is a CHRISTIAN forum. I have had enough of you. Go on the satanic forum and hang out there. Jesus says your either for me..or against me. Which means your on the side of the devil.

 

[Solomons Porch]

Thank you!

Yes sir and Im not sure about the wrong or right forum but if its in the wrong place Im sure a moderator wouldnt mind moving it for you to a spot where others can relate and extend a helping hand. I dont need to convince you of what you already know hopefully others will come along and chat with you about it. Theres numerous testimonies of the things you are describing and Im sure it was terrifying.

 

[frankieJohn]

Yes sir and Im not sure about the wrong or right forum but if its in the wrong place Im sure a moderator wouldnt mind moving it for you to a spot where others can relate and extend a helping hand. I dont need to convince you of what you already know hopefully others will come along and chat with you about it. Theres numerous testimonies of the things you are describing and Im sure it was terrifying.

If there is a mod out there reading..move this to the right spot and I apologize. Solomons porch...thank you again for your kindness and support.

 

[Occams Barber]

Hello everyone, name is Frankie and I just recently joined the forum. I joined to talk a little about battling demons at night while you sleep. Such as waking up at 3:33AM or actually encountering a demon in the bedroom. I know it sounds crazy and or insane but assure I am NOT. I have been God fearing Jesus loving Christian my whole life. I am well aware of angles and demons, and what happens in our world "I am referring to the battle behind the holy veil that we can't see". I recently had an encounter that I will NEVER forget. I woke in the middle of the night to see a small black eyed demon in the top shelf in the closet in my bedroom. I was sleeping alone as my wife fell asleep with our daughter in the other room. This is the first time I had a encounter with a Demon at night. This time being MORE clear and real than any in the past. I was laying on my back"supine" and found myself paralyzed and unable to move or speak. It was extremely hard to breathe, but could also be that I was hyper ventilating from fear. As this little Demon entity and I made eyes contact it started floating towards me. Fear in increased I tried so hard to cry out Jesus name until I finally...I broke free! The demon left the room and I was released from my paralyzing experience. All I can think of is this verse....For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the
authorities, against the powers of this world's darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12
Is there anyone else out there that has experienced this before?? If so please share. If I posted this thread in the wrong forum...I apologize.

Google "hypnopompic hallucinations" and "sleep paralysis" or "seeing things which aren't there" and you'll get any number of articles about a fairly normal phenomenon where people 'see' figures at the point of waking.

Seeing things/figures appears to be an artefact of how your brain operates and may be linked to sleep paralysis (also normal) or sleep disorders. There may be a link between what people see and their culture/belief system i.e. if you believe in demons you're more likely to see demons.

In summary: You're not crazy and you're not alone in seeing things. You could accept the possibility that what you see is a simple hallucination. This doesn't mean you need to give up your belief in the existence of demons.
OB

 

[essentialsaltes]

I've had a similar hypnogogic/hypnopompic hallucination, and it is definitely a terrifying and unusual experience.

 

[frankieJohn]

Google "hypnopompic hallucinations" and "sleep paralysis" or "seeing things which aren't there" and you'll get any number of articles about a fairly normal phenomenon where people 'see' figures at the point of waking.

Seeing things/figures appears to be an artefact of how your brain operates and may be linked to sleep paralysis (also normal) or sleep disorders. There may be a link between what people see and their culture/belief system i.e. if you believe in demons you're more likely to see demons.

In summary: You're not crazy and you're not alone in seeing things. You could accept the possibility that what you see is a simple hallucination. This doesn't mean you need to give up your belief in the existence of demons.
OB

Demons are real..I do believe they exist. Every Christian loving Jesus should. I DON'T see hallucinations. I do believe some people are more prone to seeing through the holy veil than others. I don't have a sleep disorder..what I saw was just as clear as normal day to day interactions with people. Am I not making myself clear..I have experienced what your talking about...this time was different.

 

[Volante Nocturno]

Google "hypnopompic hallucinations" and "sleep paralysis" or "seeing things which aren't there" and you'll get any number of articles about a fairly normal phenomenon where people 'see' figures at the point of waking.

Seeing things/figures appears to be an artefact of how your brain operates and may be linked to sleep paralysis (also normal) or sleep disorders. There may be a link between what people see and their culture/belief system i.e. if you believe in demons you're more likely to see demons.

In summary: You're not crazy and you're not alone in seeing things. You could accept the possibility that what you see is a simple hallucination. This doesn't mean you need to give up your belief in the existence of demons.
OB

My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.

 

[frankieJohn]

How do you explain people who wake up with scratches or marks on themselves from fighting demons at night. What kinda hallucination can actually hurt you..explain that. NO hallucinations..Demon.

hal·lu·ci·na·tion
həˌlo͞osəˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun

1. an experience involving the apparent perception of something not present.

this demon was present.

 

[Lily of Valleys]

This is supposed to be Christian forum...means believing in God and angles...which also means the devil and demons. They do show themselves once in awhile. So you guys don't believe me?? That's like saying I'm in a dream right now while I'm typing this..IT WASN'T A DREAM!!!!!!!!!

This is the part of the forum that is open to the participation of non-Christians so these are the likely responses you will get from non-Christians. If you want to discuss with Christians only, you could start your thread in a Christian only subforum.

Unfortunately there is not a subforum dedicated to demonology here, but people who participate in the "Spiritual Gifts" and "Sign Gifts" subforums are usually more receptive to demons, so you could either ask a forum staff to move your thread there or start a new thread there.

Welcome to the forum FrankieJohn!

 

[frankieJohn]

My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.

They are...its sad. They have no idea what is really going on in this world.

 

[frankieJohn]

This is the part of the forum that is open to the participation of non-Christians so these are the likely responses you will get from non-Christians. If you want to discuss with Christians only, you could start your thread in a Christian only subforum.

Unfortunately there is not a subforum dedicated to demonology here, but people who participate in the "Spiritual Gifts" and "Sign Gifts" subforums are usually more receptive to demons, so you could either ask a forum staff to move your thread there or start a new thread there.

Welcome to the forum FrankieJohn!

Thank you! I will check it out..I just thought it would be best to speak with people who believe in Jesus Christ as I do.

 

[GeorgeJ]

I think you on the wrong forum..this is a CHRISTIAN forum. I have had enough of you. Go on the satanic forum and hang out there. Jesus says your either for me..or against me. Which means your on the side of the devil.

Buddy, this forum (the one that you posted this in) is open to folks of all beliefs.

....and since I don't believe much of what your bible states, your little quip about me being on the side of the devil means nothing to me.

I suggest you post this in the forum "Sign Gifts". There are plenty of folks there who are obsessed with slaying demons that would be very sympathetic to your insistence that you were attacked by one.....and even better for you, I can't post there.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

...I am really wanting to know if anyone else experiences this..and if so please share.

Yes, lots of people have had similar experiences - that's why there are articles and papers about it.

 

[Volante Nocturno]

Buddy, this forum (the one that you posted this in) is open to folks of all beliefs.

....and since I don't believe much of what your bible states, your little quip about me being on the side of the devil means nothing to me.

I suggest you post this in the forum "Sign Gifts". There are plenty of folks there who are obsessed with slaying demons that would be very sympathetic to your insistence that you were attacked by one.....and even better for you, I can't post there.

Oh George....Play nice.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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