Slavery of US population

[ChristsSoldier115]

This is, in of itself, a big problem. Police don't get to make up law as they see fit, but the system we have in America allows those officers which do exemption from any consequences of their illegal activity.

If an officer is performing an unlawful act (arresting a woman who demands to see the non-existing warrant for their son when the police arrive to serve the non-warrant), then the tone shouldn't matter.

The police should be held criminally liable in this case. They attempted to serve an non-existing warrant, and then unlawfully detained the child's mother when she asked them (rightfully so) for the warrant itself. Both she and her sons rights were trampled on, and there should be consequences (but there won't) for the police who trampled them.

Who polices the police? Because private citizens have no power to do so apparently. At least when it comes to open rebuking of their illegal activities. We can only do it in court after the fact.

 

[ananda]

Are we slaves in our own nation?

The People have become slaves because:

1. They don't read or understand Constitutional Law (ignorance of the Law is no excuse);
2. They don't understand the difference between the various "United States";
3. They don't understand the difference between involuntary and voluntary servitude;
4. They don't understand the difference between rights and privileges;
5. They don't understand the difference between Article III and Article IV courts;
6. They don't understand the difference between money and notes;

... and on, and on ...

 

[Aldebaran]

If you're a jerk to the police you're going to have a bad time. I thought we've been over this in those riot threads?

Being "a jerk" to those who are supposed to be "protecting and serving us" but are instead doing the things mentioned in the posts above is no reason to be imprisoned, assaulted, or anything else. If the police are such heroes, as they are so often made out to be, then they shouldn't feel the need to arrest someone for being a "jerk". When they arrest people for such petty things, it indicates that they view us as their subjects rather than their masters.

 

[ananda]

Being "a jerk" to those who are supposed to be "protecting and serving us" ...

They're not "protecting and serving" us, they're "protecting and serving" the interests of their city/state/etc - their employer. Never wondered why the cars are only labeled "To protect and serve" instead of "To protect and serve the People/Public"?

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

They're not "protecting and serving" us, they're "protecting and serving" the interests of their city/state/etc - their employer. Never wondered why the cars are only labeled "To protect and serve" instead of "To protect and serve the People/Public"?

Isn't there a supreme court case that states police officers are only obligated to enforce the law? I guess some even do it by any means necessary, even bypassing their own laws to enforce the one somebody breaks.. Using a "the ends justify the means" for their defense in logic.

 

[ananda]

Isn't there a supreme court case that states police officers are only obligated to enforce the law? I guess some even do it by any means necessary, even bypassing their own laws to enforce the one somebody breaks.. Using a "the ends justify the means" for their defense in logic.

Yes, multiple cases have affirmed that police officers are primarily policy enforcers for their jurisdiction. They represent the masters - the jurisdiction they represent - so they can oftentime bypass their own regulations, as you correctly observed.

 

[Avid]

What I read was not clear ..

Yeah, but there are a couple of things we can say are clear. It happens over and over - more and more - worse and worse. Thanks for your posts!!!

Yes, multiple cases have affirmed that police officers are primarily policy enforcers for their jurisdiction. They represent the masters - the jurisdiction they represent - so they can oftentime bypass their own regulations, as you correctly observed.

I explained to one of their sheeple once what that slogan means. I told him he likely thought it meant to serve and protect "You," the guy who is so dependent on this system. I explained it meant they are there to protect the "City" (where we were) "FROM YOU..." If you do anything, or they think you might do something, they will focus on you as the problem.

 

[Avid]

They're not "protecting and serving" us, they're "protecting and serving" the interests of their city/state/etc - their employer. Never wondered why the cars are only labeled "To protect and serve" instead of "To protect and serve the People/Public"?

Thanks.

It is like many things where the true intent is hidden, and the mind is utilized to insert what makes them feel good or feel empowered.

 

[ananda]

I explained to pone of their sheeple once what that slogan means. I told him he likely thought it meant to serve and protect "You" the guy who is so dependent on this system. I explained it meant they are there to protect the "City" (where we were) FROM YOU... If you do anything, or they think you might do something, they will focus on you as the problem.

Traditionally, the Sheriff is the peace officer for the People. The police are the policy enforcers for the city, state, company, etc. Most people don't know the difference; they're just trained to blindly call the police for incidents. Unfortunately, by calling the police, they're placing themselves within a private jurisdiction (where the person is the voluntary slave) instead of the public jurisdiction (where the man or woman is master).

 

[jgarden]

World Press Freedom Index 2015

The report is based partly on a questionnaire sent to partner organizations of Reporters Without Borders (18 freedom of expression non-governmental organizations located in all five continents) and its 150 correspondents around the world, as well as to journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists.

The questionnaire asks questions about
- pluralism,
- media independence,
- environment
- self-censorship,
- legislative framework,
- transparency,
- infrastructure.

Country - Rank
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1 Finland
2 Norway
3 Denmark
4 Netherlands
5 Sweden
6 New Zealand
7 Austria
8 Canada
9 Jamaica
10 Estonia
11 Ireland
12 Germany
13 Czech Republic
14 Slovakia
15 Belgium
16 Costa Rica
17 Namibia
18 Poland
19 Luxembourg
20 Switzerland
21 Iceland
22 Ghana
23 Uruguay
24 Cyprus
25 Australia
26 Portugal
27 Liechtenstein
28 Latvia
29 Suriname
30 Belize
31 Lithuania
32 Andorra
33 Spain
34 United Kingdom
35 Slovenia
36 Cape Verde
37 Eastern Caribbean
38 France
39 South Africa
40 Samoa
41 Trinidad and Tobago
42 Botswana
43 Chile
44 Tonga
45 El Salvador
46 Burkina Faso
47 Niger
48 Malta
49 United States

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-13/world-press-freedom-index-plunges-–-usa-now-ranked-49-globally

Contrary to popular opinion, America ranked only 49th for freedom of the press in 2015 and improvement from 53rd during the Bush Admnistration.

Reasons for America's low rating include:
- judicial harassment of New York Times investigative reporter James Risen in connection with the trial of Jeffrey Sterling, a former CIA officer charged under the Espionage Act

- US journalists are still not protected by a federal shield law that would guarantee their right not to name their sources or reveal other confidential information about their work

- at least 15 journalists were arbitrarily arrested during clashes between police and demonstrators protesting against black teenager Michael Brown’s fatal shooting by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.

- the U.S. registered one of the steepest falls of all nations, down 13 slots to the #46 position. As the screen shot shows, just above Haiti and just below Romania.- the U.S. fell three places to 49th amid a “war on information” by the Obama administration

- expanded use of regulation has also been an important contributing factor to the declining ratings of the United States. During the past decade, non-tariff trade barriers, restrictions on foreign investment, and business regulation have all grown extensively.

- the expanded use of regulation in the United States has resulted in sharp rating reductions for components such as independence of the judiciary, impartiality of the courts, and regulatory favoritism.

- the United States has experienced a significant move away from rule of law and toward a highly regulated, politicized, and heavily policed state.

- global trend away from press freedom, which makes perfect sense given that world wealth is basically being consolidated by a handful of oligarchs who don’t want the rabble to have access to anything but their various forms of propaganda.

- two-thirds of the 180 countries surveyed in its annual World Press Freedom index scored worse than a year earlier.

 

[Avid]

Law Professor at Regent Law School, and former Criminal Defense Attorney, James Duane, explains why we should NEVER talk to any police officer.

Dont Talk to Police
James Duane

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Attorney Dale Carson shows us (in his book, "Arrest Proof Yourself") that the the police are there to make arrests, and the courts are there to take your money ($7,000 in costs, fines and fees for first DUI, typically,) and this is a reason many poor people remain poor. Protect yourself from this type of intrusion and abuse.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

I would not be being a jerk in any way. the idea of crime and punishment is that the punishment is to detour the crime. These people acted like they didn't need to follow the guidelines set up to do their job. They got [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed off because some uppity peasant had the unmitigated Gaul to challenge them and they took her to jail for acting as if she had any rights that they couldn't ignore with impunity.

She should sue them for as much as she could, to teach them who they are supposed to quote/unquote protect and defend take a bite out of the budget to get the city authorities attention off their re-election ambitions and on their jobs. You have to have accountability and taking money out of the coffers will mean they have less to waste. That gets peoples attention.

 

[morningstar2651]

Are we slaves in our own nation?

No. Do you know what slavery is?