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Sinful nature vs Divine nature

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by Beanieboy, Dec 14, 2019.

  1. Beanieboy

    Beanieboy Senior Veteran

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    Recently, I watched a Youtube video where the woman was talking about witnessing to nonbelievers.

    She said that first you need to understand and admit that you have a sinful nature. Then, must ask for forgiveness of your sins, and invite Christ into your heart.

    However, there is a movement (non-religion specific) that instead calls you to realize who you really are, a divine, eternal soul having a temporary physical experience. Those following this will call you to focus on higher vibration thoughts, thoughts of love, peace, positive affirmations about yourself.

    As a result, there are a number of lower vibration things (violent movies, music, etc.) that you simply lose interest in because it no longer matches your vibration.

    Looking at the two paths, the one that focuses on one’s sinful nature seems to lead to negative consequences: feelings of guilt, of being unworthy of love, of fear of making any mistake for fear of angering God. It focuses more on what not to do - don’t kill. Don’t steal. Don’t commit adultery. And good for you for not killing anyone today.
    And at some time, a verse will be presented, such as men and women not wearing the same garments, and a wringing of hands if it is ok for wonen to wear pants.

    With the later, it focuses on putting love into motion - feeding the poor, volunteering somewhere, donating what is going unused, of treating others with respect, loving your enemies, etc.

    Is it counter productive to focus on sin rather than being actively loving?

    Should the focus be on what bad things we didn’t do, or the positive ones we do?

    Jesus doesn’t say to the sheep and goats: You didn’t kil me or steal my stuff. Goid job. He talks about how they did or didn’t love/help their neighbor.
     
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  2. renniks

    renniks Well-Known Member

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    Why choose one over the other? We are sinful and we need to repent of it. The scripture is clear on that. We are also eternal souls in temporary bodies. And we should do good as we are able. That's also biblical.
     
  3. THE W

    THE W Well-Known Member

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    you should follow the commandments of the LORD and teach others to do the same.
     
  4. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    You lost me at vibrations.
     
  5. dqhall

    dqhall Well-Known Member Supporter

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    One may try to do good things and not do bad things.

    A Negev shepherd wrote a book about being a shepherd. He had to separate the sheep and goats at the trough because the goats used their horns to push away the sheep.

    If the parable of the sheep and goats is about the day of judgement, God will separate people like a shepherd separates sheep and goats. Polite sharing people in one group, rude pushy people in another group.
     
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