Sin is a personal contract between you and God. OTHERS do not sin. You do.

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Sin is invisible to others becasue nobody knows
what God has told you so far.


Don't agree with that one.

At many times our sin carries very far hurting many many many others.

M-Bob
 
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Don't agree with that one.
At many times our sin carries very far hurting many many many others.
M-Bob

You could be a volunteer driving a bus load of children and crash.
Why would the end result be from your sin? Or did you sin? Or not?
I
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have no way to know
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if you sinned.
 
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You could be a volunteer driving a bus load of children and crash.
Why would the end result be from your sin? Or did you sin? Or not?
I
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have no way to know
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if you sinned.

I have no idea what you are trying to say or what your question or questions maybe?

Hypothetical I guess?

M-Bob
 
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If you act as God
wishes you are not sinning. If you act otherwise
that is Sin.

That's quite subjective and open to personal interpretation. I fear that's a pitfall of "personal relationship" (me 'n God) theology that ultimately backfires.
 
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If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. (1 John 5:16)

Seems visible to me.
 
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Sin is missing the mark. Sin is falling short of the goal of being like Christ. Sin is whatever distances you or moves you further from God. Sin injures the soul, sickens it.

Sin goes beyond legal contracts.


There can be a personal aspect that has to do with failing to do what YOU are told, or not being true to the light you are given. But sin in general is not purely subjective, if that is what is being suggested.
 
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Sin is invisible to others becasue nobody knows
what God has told you so far. If you act as God
wishes you are not sinning. If you act otherwise
that is Sin.

James 4
17 Therefore,
whoever knows the right thing to do,
yet fails to do it, is guilty of sin.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous
in God’s sight by the works of the law;
rather, through the law we become
conscious of our sin.

Romans 3:20
i'm confused by what you are suggesting... maybe i'm reading it wrong. Are you saying you don't know sin until you're a christian or that people don't know what sins are?

But if so why does the bible list them for us to know? Such as fornication, adultery (world calls it affairs now) , homosexuality etc?
 
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Sin is invisible to others becasue nobody knows
what God has told you so far. If you act as God
wishes you are not sinning. If you act otherwise
that is Sin.

James 4
17 Therefore,
whoever knows the right thing to do,
yet fails to do it, is guilty of sin.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous
in God’s sight by the works of the law;
rather, through the law we become
conscious of our sin.

Romans 3:20

You sin by just existing , sin is missing mark of perfection , only God is perfect , we are not God so we will be always less perfect than him , that's why everybody sin because it's our nature to be less than God .

God knew that while creating us , he knew that by creating us we will be damned if left alone so at the same time he created us , he knew that he will need to die for us to have relationship with us and redeem us .
Revelation 13:8
 
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You sin by just existing , sin is missing mark of perfection , only God is perfect , we are not God so we will be always less perfect than him , that's why everybody sin because it's our nature to be less than God .

God knew that while creating us , he knew that by creating us we will be damned if left alone so at the same time he created us , he knew that he will need to die for us to have relationship with us and redeem us .
Revelation 13:8
Does it say missing the mark under that definition or missing the mark of perfection? Also if you sin by just existing why are there the verse in 1st john that say that if you continuously commit sin you're of the devil? As if to suggest sin isn't a 24/7 thing. And why does acts 22:16 say you can have sins washed away?
 
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You sin by just existing , sin is missing mark of perfection , only God is perfect , we are not God so we will be always less perfect than him , that's why everybody sin because it's our nature to be less than God .

God knew that while creating us , he knew that by creating us we will be damned if left alone so at the same time he created us , he knew that he will need to die for us to have relationship with us and redeem us .
Revelation 13:8

I can't argue with that. So I must change my statement:
Sin-ing is invisible to others becasue nobody knows
what God has told you so far.

As well, positional sin that we are born into is also not
available for others to judge.
 
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Does it say missing the mark under that definition or missing the mark of perfection? Also if you sin by just existing why are there the verse in 1st john that say that if you continuously commit sin you're of the devil? As if to suggest sin isn't a 24/7 thing. And why does acts 22:16 say you can have sins washed away?

You can choose not to disobey God and then you are saved.
You are still in a less than perfect position, not walking with
God at your right hand, but you can choose not to love mud
and to Love God instead. God then forgives your inequities
even though they persist.
 
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But if so why does the bible list them for us to know? Such as fornication, adultery (world calls it affairs now) , homosexuality etc?

Jesus forgave the prostitute and told her prosecutors, judges, and name callers to buzz off.
That is your calling. To be like Him.


i'm confused by what you are suggesting... maybe i'm reading it wrong. Are you saying you don't know sin until you're a christian or that people don't know what sins are?

Sins are what you believe is wrong. Not what others believe about you.
To them your sins are generally invisible. Though they might have clues.
 
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That's quite subjective and open to personal interpretation. I fear that's a pitfall of "personal relationship" (me 'n God) theology that ultimately backfires.

Only if you hate scripture. I have my concerns, but most of it is holding up.

James 4:17
Therefore, whoever knows the right thing to do, yet fails to do it, is guilty of sin.

John 9:41
"If you were blind," Jesus replied, "you would not be guilty of sin. But since you claim you can see, your guilt remains."

2 Peter 2:21
It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and turned away from the holy commandment passed on to them.

John 15:24
If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have seen and hated both Me and My Father.
 
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You can choose not to disobey God and then you are saved.
You are still in a less than perfect position, not walking with
God at your right hand, but you can choose not to love mud
and to Love God instead. God then forgives your inequities
even though they persist.
I'm not suggesting one is perfect... no one believes in a perfect human... but to say missing the mark definition of sin refers to not being perfect wouldn't make sense rather to me it refers to a failure in a sense to be Christ like or simply put a Christian and being a Christian doesn't involve being perfect at all. you can not commit sin and still have imperfections.. you can still have issues with patience, or peace, or meekness, etc. being perfect goes beyond not sinning
 
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Jesus forgave the prostitute and told her prosecutors, judges, and name callers to buzz off.
That is your calling. To be like Him.



Sins are what you believe is wrong. Not what others believe about you.
To them your sins are generally invisible. Though they might have clues.
What does the story of the prostitute have to do with the fact that sins are listed and not undefined?
 
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There can be a personal aspect that has to do with failing to do what YOU are told, or not being true to the light you are given. But sin in general is not purely subjective, if that is what is being suggested.

John 15:22
If I had not come and spoken to them,
they would not be guilty of sin.
Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.
 
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I'm not suggesting one is perfect... no one believes in a perfect human... but to say missing the mark definition of sin refers to not being perfect wouldn't make sense rather to me it refers to a failure in a sense to be Christ like or simply put a Christian and being a Christian doesn't involve being perfect at all. you can not commit sin and still have imperfections.. you can still have issues with patience, or peace, or meekness, etc. being perfect goes beyond not sinning

There is positional sin that we are born into, and there is active sinning
which is knowing better and doing bad.
 
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If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. (1 John 5:16)
Seems visible to me.

Still, it remains your personal opinion that they are sinning.
And the only suggested action is, you praying.
 
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