Should we choose our political future using mainly rational or empirical criteria?

[MorkandMindy]

Empirical - I'd guess most of us start there because it seems pretty simple. Take all the countries that are or were socialist and ask how things worked out.

Rationalism then arrives when we look at reasons why a particular system worked out in one and not in another and which things worked and which things didn't and why and whether it was true this or true that.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Rationalism - I've worked register for the last few years and a number of customers have been, generally agreeing with each other on the basis of rational arguments. A couple of customers were exchanging lines in favor of unrestricted immigration, one saying 'after all we are all immigrants' and the other came in with 'so we can't tell other people they can't immigrate' and so on.

I have a very middle position on this point, but it's amazing how insubstantial pure reason ends up being (I Kant say more about that here), the counter reason immediately came to mind because a vitally important lecture I attended was cancelled and never made up when one foolish student pointed out that we were above the fire limit for that room.

Taking the argument put forward by the customers, since the first few people had the right to enter the room then nobody after that could be refused even after the fire limit was reached.

 

[Uber Genius]

All first-world countries have immigration policies that protect against unwanted immigration. Pew polls have suggested 63 million people would enter the US if there were no barriers. We currently spend over $250 billion annually on services related to illegal aliens.

So why do Democrats want to have open borders?

It seems that we have more than enough on our plates currently with drugs, poverty, homelessness, crime. Why are Democrats reversing on this issue? Obama, Pelosi, Clinton, Schumer, all supported tough immigration laws in 2006.

What is happening in sanctuary cities related to giving illegal aliens ID cards? Voting rights?

Now flip Texas and Florida (swing states) permanently blue with just 10% of their illegal population voting. 63 votes that are red currently go blue for the next 100 years. You will not see another Republican POTUS in a 100 years.

Don't need a constitutional amendment. Just need the workers at the voting districts to accept illegals with ID cards.

A friend who is in the Ohio Democratic Party told me that back in 2016 and I didn't believe it. Now it is starting to make it into the news.

 

[DerSchweik]

I don't know.

Maybe we should take a poll. That seems to be the method-du-jour these days for at least prognosticating over our political futures.