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Should the United States COnquer the Earth?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Cephalic Carnage, Sep 5, 2002.

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  1. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

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    You act like destroying Hussein will make us conquorers or the world. Hussein has to be taken out and you know it. Anyone who opposes the idea are blinded by hopeful visions that everything will work itself out. Saddam Hussein is a madman. He is a complete and utter lunatic. Hes commited numerous attrocities, owns his people and their lives, and now hes got an oppurtunity to get his hands on weapons of mass destruction! Hes like a kid with a new toy and he cant wait to use it, the second he HAS got those weapons taht exactly what hes going to do. The resources and the money spent on taking out Hussein will most definitly have been worth it! There will be fighting, it will cost us, but in the end it will have been worth it. I dont want to see thousands of innocent lives lost at the hands of Hussein simply because americans were to afraid of there own gosh darned shadow.
     
  2. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

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    BTW, GOD BLESS AMERICA! Ive read through these posts, and Im outraged! You people have no idea how wonderful you have it in America, such ignorance is just plain embarassing! You do not realize how lucky you are when they are people being oppressed and owned by their government, where its illegal to think for yourself, perhaps you will learn a little respect if you go slip from under the shelter of america and learn what a truly disgusting place the world can be.
     
  3. Lacmeh

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    Hm I am still desperately trying to find a spot in my part of the world, in which I am not allowed to think for myself.
    I don´t really feel, that I am owned by my government, well taxes are high, but in exchange I have am guaranteed health care. Which is IMO far more valuable than 50 or 100 dollars more cash in the month.
    I don´t really feel oppressed here. I can basically do whatever I like. Almost all things. But then I wouldn´t be able to do these things in USA, either,p.

    Of course, Husein is a crazed lunatic. He shouldn´t rule a nation. But when it is beginning here with Hussein, where will it end? There will always be leaders, that aren´t friendly to USA. Next step is then to eliminate the less friendly leaders, too. Where does it end?
     
  4. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

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    If taht were true France would already be gone! lol. As you said there will always be leaders who dont like teh US, but you cant compare them to Saddam Hussein. You have Hussein who doenst really liek anybody hes just an insane lunatic bent on killing people. America doesnt want to get him because he doesnt like our leaders or how we do things, we want to egt him because hes going to kill thousands of innocent citizens, hes going to cause mass destruction. This has to do with whats right not politics.
     
  5. Lacmeh

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    This is hypocrisy at its best.
    If it would be a question about what is right or not, then why is Sharon still leading the Israelis?
    Why does the USA not honor signed and ratified treaties?
    It is about many things, but surely not about the right thing. A side effect would be, that it is the right thing to do. But surely not the main cause.
    In the past, the USA supported dictators as bad as Hussein. Heck, even Hussein himself was supported by the USA. And I sincerely doubt, that he was saner or less brutal back then.
     
  6. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

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    Lac: In the past, the USA supported dictators as bad as Hussein. Heck, even Hussein himself was supported by the USA. And I sincerely doubt, that he was saner or less brutal back then.

    Your right, the USA has made mistakes in the past, but this is the present, what heppened before has nothing to do with this except that it should be an example and tell us to learn from our past blunders.

    Lac: Why does the USA not honor signed and ratified treaties?

    What are you talking about? 

    Lac: Of course, Husein is a crazed lunatic. He shouldn´t rule a nation. But when it is beginning here with Hussein, where will it end? There will always be leaders, that aren´t friendly to USA. Next step is then to eliminate the less friendly leaders, too. Where does it end?

    If the USA wanted to eliminate every wordl leader we didnt like we wuold do so, and in doing so we would become horrible tyrants no different from the likes of Hitler or Hussein. This is about taking out Hussein because of the masses of civillians hes going to kill. It doesnt end. As long as the human race exists there will be disgusting horrible dictators like Sadam, and as long as the US is around we are going to do something about it.

     

     

     
     
  7. Caffeine Socialism

    Caffeine Socialism Imagine all the people.

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    I just thought of something. In 98, why did everyone think Clinton was wagging the dog? Why doesn't anyone think that now?
     
  8. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

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    Wagging the dog?
     
  9. VirginBlack

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    America conquer the earth? Tell this the russians and the chinese! I think that they don't support this idea... ;) ;) ;)
     
  10. Brimshack

    Brimshack Well-Known Member

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    "I just thought of something. In 98, why did everyone think Clinton was wagging the dog? Why doesn't anyone think that now?"

    …because anything and everything Clinton does is evil, naturally; if good Republicans do the same thig, it MUST be for the good of us all.
     
  11. coastie

    coastie Hallelujah Adonai Yeshua!

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    doesn't anyone ever burned out on the Republican/democrat bashing?
     
  12. Lacmeh

    Lacmeh Active Member

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    Treaties not honored by the USA:

    WTA treaties concerning free trade, USA has to pay fine and EU has the permit to install tariffs for US based goods, too.

    OECD treaties for recognisation of data concerning preclinical and clinical studies. USA don´t recognise studies made under OECD guidelines of GLP from foreign nations.

    FDA wants to inspect plants in other nations, clearly violating national sovereignity.

    FDA want sto inspect studies made in other nations, which aren´t originated by US doctors, violating national sovereignity.

    USA doesn´t pay the fees, that are part of the UN membership. ALmost were expelled from the UNO.

    That´s how the USa honors treaties and national sovereignity.

    There are quite a few lunatic dictators left in the world. Doesn´t bother the US.
    You have two options:
    Either remove Hussein, then you will have to go after every dictator in the world or don´t remove Hussein. Then you will have to wait, till he actually usues mass terminating weapons outside his own country. Hm not even that, because the US wasn´t really bothered, that Hussein used poison gas the first time in 45 years in a military conflict outside his own land. In this conflict, the US happily supported him.
     
  13. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    Well said Brim!
     
  14. Gunny

    Gunny Remnant Supporter

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  15. Gunny

    Gunny Remnant Supporter

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  16. Smilin

    Smilin Spirit of the Wolf

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    Awake,

    First, let me be polite and welcome you to the forum since you are a newbie.  Glad to have you!

    CC's statement was a ridiculous statement that you seemed to have taken seriously.  It was meant for humor, that's all.

    Since you're rebuttal seems sincere, allow me to dissect your argument, i.e. bash you a bit:

     Go back and study your history, or better yet pay more attention to the WW1 & WW2 documentaries on the History Channel.  Europe, Russia, and the United States DID try to compromise with Hitler.  His response?  He made promises that he broke and still invaded Europe, Russia, and attacked the United States BEFORE Pearl Harbor.  He could not be reasoned with.

    How does this relate to the current affairs of Iraq? Iraq has continually violted the terms imposed upon them by the United Nations.  You can cut deals with sadistic, evil, dictators, but history shows us what will happen.


    If we fail to learn the lessons that history teaches us, we are doomed to repeat them.  You should study more in depth of all the atrocities that have occured at the hands of Saddam Hussein before you actually try to believe that he can be reasoned with.
     


    This statement contradicts your philosophy of 'let's just be friends and understand each other'.  You obviously don't subscribe to that thinking either.  Personal attacks will not gain you allies.
     
  17. Smilin

    Smilin Spirit of the Wolf

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    AMEN WARRIOR,

    Why I support bringing back the draft and requiring EVERY single male and female to serve a minimum of 2 years in the military.  Traveling abroad will give Americans a greater appreciation of what we have been blessed with.
     
  18. ServantOfTheLord

    ServantOfTheLord Seeking His Face

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    Unfortunatley, America is on the decline. Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68 it tells what happens to nations who turn away from God. It is exactly what is happening to us and the worst is yet to come. People say "God Bless America" but you know what? Read Deuteronomy 28:1-14 and it describes how God did bless America and yet America turned around and spit in God's face. Even now in the aftermath of 9/11 Americans (not all of course) still spit in His face by denying His Son. It seems OK to talk about God but when you want to talk about Jesus people get real weird.

    Anyway, I do thank the Lord that I live in this graet nation which, for now, is still the best place on earth.

    As for the whole Middle East crisis ... there will be no true peace until Jesus returns to set His holy feet upon the Mount of Olives.

    In His Service,

    Sandy
     
  19. Caffeine Socialism

    Caffeine Socialism Imagine all the people.

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    No peace, huh? When'll peace come? A decade? A century? Another millennium of waiting? The rapture prophecy can never be wrong because it'll never happen.
     
  20. Gunny

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