should the NHS be shut down, so that English people can just evolve?

should the NHS be shut down, so that English people can just evolve?

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FrumiousBandersnatch

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You do know that NAZI is an acronym for "socialism," don't you?
It isn't; it's an acronym for an abbreviation for 'Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei', which was the National Socialist German Workers Party, now used as a generic for extreme fascism.
 
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Just read the thread and was wondering the same thing. Why wouldn't you want the option of state provided health care.

There's still the option of buying private health care but if you fall on hard times and can't afford it, the NHS is a very very good alternative.

I'm baffled as to how that could be a bad thing
The typical rationale appears to be essentially selfish - they don't want the government to give their money to other people - particularly people who they consider not to be making sufficient effort to earn their own money, or look after themselves, etc.
 
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I do not know how to vote as I cannot stand the idea of socialized medicine yes I wouldd not mind it going away ( Obamacare too) however the reasoning you give is not my reasoning.
Obamacare is not at all socialized medicine! You should Google what it actually is. As for the OP, we will always evolve, with and without medicine.
 
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I feel that socialism is one of those things that can look good on paper but always manages to fail in attempts to practice it. Primarily because humans aren't like ants who will work for the benefit of the hive at the cost of themselves without question or desire to improve their control or position in life.
Capitalism can sound good on paper if everyone starts out equal and it doesn't turn to crony capitalism. But reality isnt a game of monopoly and it always turns to crony.
 
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I do not know how to vote as I cannot stand the idea of socialized medicine yes I wouldd not mind it going away ( Obamacare too) however the reasoning you give is not my reasoning.

People in the US don't seem to understand that there is also Private Healthcare in the UK, you can either just go and pay at a Private Hospital, or you can take out Private Health Insurance and get covered that way. There is a choice, I understand that about 10%-12% of the population have some sort of Private Health Insurance.
 
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With regard t the OP, a recent study showed that every £1 spent on UK public health saves £14 on average.

"This systematic review suggests that local public health interventions are cost-saving, and offer substantial returns on investment, nationwide programmes even more so."​
 
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I've been away for a while, so is gattaca just another consol sockpuppet?
Appears to be (but not sure) a new account for Gattaca who used to post random confused interpretations of evolution with unusual repetitions and "Don't attack Israel! Don't attack Israel!" without any real context.
 
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Appears to be (but not sure) a new account for Gattaca who used to post random confused interpretations of evolution with unusual repetitions and "Don't attack Israel! Don't attack Israel!" without any real context.
They seem to have jettisoned the don't attack Israel line and taken onboard some anti Semitic conspiracy theories.
 
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