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Featured Should people living in sin be rejected from the church

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by BNR32FAN, May 17, 2018.

  1. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Seem constantly calling posts irrelevant is your way of dodging content.

    Duly noted.

    No idea what you mean with the "deed" comment.
     
  2. BigDaddy4

    BigDaddy4 Movin' on...

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    ^^This is what the OP was about^^. At least some people are getting that.
     
  3. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yep, and?

    No go check all your posts and be sure you didn't sway from that OP even once, then cast your stones..

    My guess is you have a "do as I say. not as I do" thing going on here.
     
  4. BigDaddy4

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    "Deed" - you accuse me of ignorance. Here is the post I was referring to:

    "Besides, I already rested my case with this:


    It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father’s wife. You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst. (1 Corinthians 5:1-2 NASB)"

    The underlined referred to one specific deed - "the one" who did "this deed" - sleeping with his father's wife. Yet you said it didn't apply to just this. Huh. I'll stick with the Bible, not what you think it says.
     
  5. BigDaddy4

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    I have been consistent throughout this thread. You are free to provide evidence otherwise, or retract your false accusation.
     
  6. Jon Osterman

    Jon Osterman Well-Known Member

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    Is it? I think Solomon may have disagreed.
     
  7. BigDaddy4

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    And in my life, I have personally attended a church for a period of time without joining or considering myself a member. The ones I have attended have membership classes or a process to become a member. Some of those requirements included confessing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, repenting of sins, being baptized, etc.

    But that's not what the OP was talking about, and has clarified that on numerous occasions.
     
  8. Gwen-is-new!

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    Thanks for being the first to reference scripture! Seems Paul's letter talk a lot about this :)
     
  9. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Back to the OP,
    did you ever then look up and read in God's Word where He says to do that ?
    If so, does God's Word to do this still shock you ?
     
  10. Gwen-is-new!

    Gwen-is-new! The Lord is my rock!

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    Maybe that is why the modern churches came up to "membership"...
     
  11. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Proverbs 19:1 (ESV) - Better is a poor person - Blue Letter Bible
    Proverbs 19:1 (ESV)
    Proverbs 19 - Better is a poor person who walks in his integrity than one who is crooked in speech and is a fool.

     
  12. Ken Rank

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    Look, you are welcome to believe whatever you want. What I am saying is, that the Hebrew language very clearly shows perhaps not three "levels," maybe that wasn't the best word, but 3 different concepts that in English we tend to consider as one concept, sin. Now, your reply reveals that you didn't understand my point or didn't really give it a chance. If "chata'ah" is unintentional, then murder can't be chata'ah because there IS intent with murder.

    If you are in an argument with a man and it gets heated and you push him. If he then falls, hits his head and dies... you did not murder him, but the act is still sin because you ceased (at least for a moment) reflecting the character of the Lord and took a life in the process. Perhaps you might go and read where I defined the three words we tend to view as sin? It should take all of 2-3 minutes and will reveal as aspect of the language that we don't generally teach in the church but that DOES effect context.

    Should people living in sin be rejected from the church
     
  13. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And I was supposed to know that...how? when what you quoted was not that. Dude, that's on you. You are now getting a bit dishonest.

    Consistently crying irrelevant, just as I said. Not sure what you mean there, you completely jumped off the subject of my post. Retract the accusation you have cried irrelevant more than once here? Why? Was that not a fact.

    Unbelievable.
     
  14. Inkfingers

    Inkfingers Somebody's heretic Supporter

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    Solomon sinned.
     
  15. sunlover1

    sunlover1 Beloved, Let us love one another

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    None of those things were mentioned in Scripture:
    wearing pants, hair color, make up, buns or heels.

    But the things mentioned in the OP ARE addressed
    in the Bible.
    And saying so doesn't make one a hypocrite,
     
  16. BigDaddy4

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    The copy/paste did not do well. These are the actual quotes regarding "the deed":
    Should people living in sin be rejected from the church
    Should people living in sin be rejected from the church

    As you can see, you accuse me of being ignorant. I have shown that is not the case.

    Being off topic to the OP and constructing a strawman is somehow relevant? OK, believe what you wish, but you have been constantly advocating a position that was not in the OP. It wasn't I that "completely jumped off the subject".

    It's sad that you have to resort to personal insults ("ignorant", "cried", "dishonest") and cannot admit you are talking about something different that I and the OP were.
     
  17. sunlover1

    sunlover1 Beloved, Let us love one another

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    Actually, although that SOUNDS lovely, it's not true.
    It's "true" that man sins.
    where's the love in that?
    Yet it's still 'truth'.
    OTOH, there's no LOVE, in lies.
    Pope, he being lying (in the news) today :(
     
  18. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Na' you are clearly making something from nothing. Not one of those are name calling.

    "Ignorant", means no more than you aren't aware of something, something all of us are at one time or another. "Ignoramus" would have been a name.

    "Cried" simply means you protested. Cry baby would have been a name.

    "dishonest" is what you were there, a fact, if it's insulting for others to say what they saw you do, then don't do it, but shifting the blame isn't going to help matters. "Dishonest #$%T$#" would have been a name.

    But you will see what you want to be there regardless, if it's to your advantage, because you need the advantage...understand what's happening here now?

    See, in reality, you know you have no leg to stand on here so you start this mess. Go ahead and make whatever you wish out of whatever you wish, but leave me out of your desperation to be right, when wrong, that's something you need to deal with on your own now that you know what's up..
     
  19. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Always the same pretty words designed to cover the truth, make the truth sayer look bad and to make themselves/their ideas look good.
     
  20. sunlover1

    sunlover1 Beloved, Let us love one another

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    You're going to get some groups who lie and say it's all good to go with your lusts.
    other groups who condemn all who aren't like them.
    Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom!
     
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